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Summary: Intel Mac and Live USB
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Summary: Intel Mac and Live USB Product: Fedora Documentation Version: devel Platform: x86_64 OS/Version: Mac OS Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: unspecified Component: docs-requests AssignedTo: nobody@fedoraproject.org ReportedBy: earthwormgaz@googlemail.com QAContact: fedora-docs-list@redhat.com CC: stickster@gmail.com, kwade@redhat.com, nb@fedoraproject.org, eric@christensenplace.us, oglesbyzm@gmail.com Classification: Fedora Story Points: ---
Description of problem:
Hi,
I just spent a couple of days trying to put the F15 Alpha Live CD image onto a USB stick for use with my Macbook Pro.
It turns out this isn't possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB#Limitations
I think this ought to go on the documentation somewhere, just to save people time.
In my case, my CD drive is dead, so I can't install Fedora.
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Summary: Intel Mac and Live USB
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693635
Summary: Intel Mac and Live USB Product: Fedora Documentation Version: devel Platform: x86_64 OS/Version: Mac OS Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: unspecified Component: docs-requests AssignedTo: nobody@fedoraproject.org ReportedBy: earthwormgaz@googlemail.com QAContact: fedora-docs-list@redhat.com CC: stickster@gmail.com, kwade@redhat.com, nb@fedoraproject.org, eric@christensenplace.us, oglesbyzm@gmail.com Classification: Fedora Story Points: ---
Description of problem:
Hi,
I just spent a couple of days trying to put the F15 Alpha Live CD image onto a USB stick for use with my Macbook Pro.
It turns out this isn't possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB#Limitations
I think this ought to go on the documentation somewhere, just to save people time.
In my case, my CD drive is dead, so I can't install Fedora.
There is a way around this which works pretty well for some machines - if you can get the PLOP bootloader to boot then you can select a usb device that has a bootable install iso on it.
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmngrusblog.html
It has a number of different ways to start up apart from using a CD drive - I use it on an old machine (without usb boot) that has grub available and put the binary in the /boot area and make a grub stanza to boot it - once it boots to plop you can select the plugged in usbkey.
I am not familiar enough with the Macbook Pro to know if you can get the binary to boot without using the CD drive but it may be worth exploring? I have seen from postings elsewhere that PLOP does support booting from EFI so maybe it is worth trying to explore?
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Nathan Thomas nathan.thomas@peacenik.co.uk changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Nathan Thomas nathan.thomas@peacenik.co.uk 2011-04-05 16:43:34 EDT --- Hi Gareth,
Can I ask how you are creating your live USB drive? If you're using Fedora LiveUSB Creator or dd it probably won't work, but if you have another machine already running Fedora (or can borrow a friend's Windows machine and boot a Fedora live USB created with a persistence layer) you can create a Mac-compatible live USB drive using a suite of programs called livecd-tools. Open a terminal and type the following commands:
$ su -c "yum install livecd-tools" $ su -c "livecd-iso-to-disk --efi --format <ISO_NAME> <USB_Drive_NAME>"
where <ISO_NAME> is the path to the live image you want to install, and <USB_Drive_NAME> is the path to the usb drive you want to install it to. If you're not sure about the path to your usb drive, have a look in your /dev folder, which lists all connected devices - you can find out the name of your usb drive by simply removing it and noting which item is removed from the list!
So if the live image was in my downloads folder and my usb drive was called sdb, the command would be:
$ su -c "livecd-iso-to-disk --efi --format /home/nathan/Downloads/Fedora-15-Alpha-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdb
That should get you a live usb drive that boots on a Mac. If you're able to try this please let us know if it works - if not we can file a bug with livecd-tools. Either way it's definitely something that should be mentioned in our documentation - thank you for bringing it to our attention!
Best wishes, Nathan
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--- Comment #2 from gareth foster earthwormgaz@googlemail.com 2011-04-05 17:07:35 EDT --- Wow, thanks for those instructions. Can I run those commands from VirtualBox Fedora 14 on my Macbook?
Thanks again for being so helpful.
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--- Comment #3 from Richard Vijay richard.vijay@gmail.com 2011-04-06 04:54:52 EDT --- VirtualBox Bug is reported on its site for issues with new Intel I7 based Mac. I am one of those who reported this initially @ Virtualbox community, We are yet to receive a fix till now. Nathan, If this ticket is not assigned on anyone,I would like to take it as i follow up on both fedora and virtual box communities,please
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--- Comment #4 from gareth foster earthwormgaz@googlemail.com 2011-04-06 05:07:27 EDT --- Better still, I wonder if the shell script "livecd-iso-to-disk" can be made to run on OSX?
I might try it when I get home.
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--- Comment #5 from Nathan Thomas nathan.thomas@peacenik.co.uk 2011-04-06 07:39:40 EDT --- (In reply to comment #3)
VirtualBox Bug is reported on its site for issues with new Intel I7 based Mac. I am one of those who reported this initially @ Virtualbox community, We are yet to receive a fix till now. Nathan, If this ticket is not assigned on anyone,I would like to take it as i follow up on both fedora and virtual box communities,please
Hi Richard, thanks for the offer of help! Do you know if VirtualBox supports creating live usb drives on non-I7 based Macbook Pros?
Gareth, does your Mac have an Intel Core I7 processor? Unfortunately livecd-tools is Linux-only at the moment, so I think our best bet would be trying to create a live USB drive in a Fedora 14 VirtualBox machine, if possible.
Thanks, Nathan
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--- Comment #6 from gareth foster earthwormgaz@googlemail.com 2011-04-24 17:01:01 EDT --- I finally tried this. I ran Fedora 14 in VirtualBox. I put the live CD image on the USB drive, copied it to the Fedora desktop, then used the commands given on this report to write the ISO to the USB stick.
The EFI flags don't seem to have helped. I get OSX, one option that mentions EFI that goes to a Grub prompt, and two legacy OS options that both go to a black screen that says missing OS :(
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--- Comment #7 from Nathan Thomas nathan.thomas@peacenik.co.uk 2011-04-25 15:21:29 EDT --- Hmm. It sounds like you're making the live USB stick correctly, otherwise you wouldn't get the multiboot menu. Unfortunately I don't have an Apple machine to test. Could you file a separate bug against livecd-tools, so the maintainer of the livecd-tools package can have a look at it?
In the meantime, I'll make sure the instructions for creating an EFI-compatible live USB are put somewhere in the documentation.
Thanks!
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--- Comment #8 from gareth foster earthwormgaz@googlemail.com 2011-04-27 15:17:39 EDT --- Done.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=700208
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--- Comment #9 from Nathan Thomas nathan.thomas@peacenik.co.uk 2011-04-28 09:53:55 EDT --- (In reply to comment #8)
Done.
Great, thanks Gareth!
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--- Comment #10 from Baif baifcc@hotmail.com 2011-05-09 05:44:50 EDT --- posted to 700208:
Hi All, when you trying to load LiveCD on new MBP (i3 i5 i7), it seems that the boot camp or rEFIt supports/loads bootx64.efi ONLY.
You might copy the bootx64.efi from x64 CD, and copy your boot.conf to bootx64.conf in EFI directory.
PS: I haven't successfully run LiveCD with USB (Alpha nor Beta) on my MBP with i5.
I think you might request for adding x64 EFI to i386 LiveCD/Install CDs.
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Nathan Thomas nathan@afternoondust.co.uk changed:
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--- Comment #11 from Nathan Thomas nathan@afternoondust.co.uk 2011-09-01 15:03:23 EDT --- I've added brief instructions to the Live Image Guide outlining how to obtain Fedora Live images. This includes a note explaining that Mac OSX users must use a 64-bit image, and instructions on where to find 64-bit images on http://get.fedoraproject.org. These additions will be available in the Fedora 16 version of the guide.
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