(Cross-posted to logistics & docs lists because of wider topic.) John Poelstra has proposed having the Zikula schedule discussion as the first part of the Docs meeting this week, after Paul's suggestion to preempt the Docs meeting for this important topic. Because that works best via voice, we are going to be mostly discussing on sip:2009@talk.fedoraproject.org. How about if we just *move* the Zikula coordination meeting to interact with the Docs meeting until the CMS is rolled out? How does Docs feel about that? To do that, we would want to take all of the status-of-guides notices directly to the list _before_ the meeting. Then we can discuss exceptions to the schedule in the meeting, if needed. This week, I propose that we spend the second part of the meeting discussing the Docs/L10n schedule. These goals: 1. Explain it to everyone present 2. Figure how to show key dates, etc. so it is clear to writers/editors 3. How to manage regular reminders (nagging) of upcoming dates My experience shows that a complex schedule with a distributed team requires regular reminders and continuous understanding. Talk about it often. Show how it changes over time. Make sure people don't forget key dates. That's the (permanent) agenda topic I propose, starting this week with deeper understanding for all. Since John (poelcat) will be present, he can help us explain the schedule; we can talk about presentation choices, etc. cheers - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41