On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: 3.4.x series are the stable releases. while 3.6.x series are development releases. I won't dare to package unstable packages (for fedora stable releases) now while FEL is gaining popularity around the world. While xcircuit is a crucial application for Front-End design, I believe our job for F10 is to ensure it's stability for our designers . One thing I've been fighting _before_ FEL was to ensure interoperability (in the end, having design flows with the tools we ship). in the case of opencircuitdesign: xcircuit (circuit) -> -> netgen (lvs) magic (layout) -> I would hate to see that xcircuit devel release break that design flow, thus making netgen useless to ship. As you have perhaps guessed, we (FEL) need a testsuite (or even a benchmark suite) for our packages that will help us evaluate: - whether our design flows still exists and no intermediate steps are broken (working with upstream is crucial). - when to ship major upstream releases (Fedora _needs_ to be cutting edge) - ....... I was once working on such (very simple one) testsuite, however didnt got time to complete. I'll post an alpha release soon. latest stable magic, xcircuit, netgen and irsim will hit "updates" repo once the infrastructure issue has been solved [1]: [1]:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00... Chitlesh