We (The EPEL Steering Committee) are following up on EPEL issue 136[1] regarding the status of EPEL8 Playground. Looking through the logs we see that there are still people building against playground on a regular basis.  But as I look into each of those packages, the same package is built in both epel8 and epel8- playground, at the same time. This leads me to believe that the only reason people are still building on playground is because they feel obligated to, not because they really need someplace to test things out. So, if anyone is still using epel8-playground for something they can't get from epel8-next and/or COPR,  please let us know.  Otherwise we will shut it down and call it an interesting experiment.

What are other's thoughts about if/when to remove the epel8-playground repo?

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 7:29 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > We (The EPEL Steering Committee) are following up on EPEL issue 136[1] regarding the status of EPEL8 Playground. > > Looking through the logs we see that there are still people building against playground on a regular basis. But as I look into each of those packages, the same package is built in both epel8 and epel8-playground, at the same time. > > This leads me to believe that the only reason people are still building on playground is because they feel obligated to, not because they really need someplace to test things out. > > So, if anyone is still using epel8-playground for something they can't get from epel8-next and/or COPR, please let us know. Otherwise we will shut it down and call it an interesting experiment. I really liked the idea when it was first implemented as it allowed me to update some packages with breaking things for other users, but in practice I didn't use it very much. TBH, $DAYJOB and $LIFE have gotten very busy for me so I have pulled back on my EPEL packaging quite a bit, and now with all the craziness around CentOS and 9 vs 9-next and 8 vs 8 Stream I just can't keep up with all the changes. I read the emails, but I don't have the time to invest to get a clear picture in my head of all the moving pieces. So 8 is EOL at the end of the year, but 8 Stream is not, correct?