I often want to send people to Join Fedora, to, you know, Join Fedora. :) But I'm actually a little confused where to start. Héctor is re-doing https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/, and that's going to be nice, but I don't think it's ready and also I don't necessarily think it's the right path for everyone. The first google hit that comes up is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join, but ... that's pretty old, not very well maintained, and doesn't really represent current activities in the project very well. Plus, I do not want to send new folks into the minefield that is the wiki right away. Also, "join.fedoraproject.org" currently links there. Then, there's this: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/ which I _think_ is helpful, but I find somewhat confusing because it mixes up the business of the Join SIG (that is, all the helpful people working to provide a nice onboarding process) with the onboarding process itself. That page points to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome, which... 1. Is frighteningly bare-bones. 2. Has the "it's the wiki" problem again 3. Points to Telegram — I don't have a problem with that as a platform to bring people on, but as a service outside of project control, shouldn't be where we start. (If people are on and comfortable with Telegram, cool, let's meet them there. But I don't want to give the impression that signing up for telegram is a first step to 4. Also IRC; that's a temporary problem until we get chat.fedoraproject.org officially launched, though. Anyway, in short, what's the link I should use for someone who wants to get involved? And, leading question: should we have a user-focused "Join Fedora" docs section on docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join SIG docs? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; Fedora Project Leader