Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts choosing in fontconfig.
by Peng Wu
Dear all,
We currently plan to improve Chinese fonts on Fedora 13. Last time we post a mail on fonts and i18n mailing list, as fangqq proposed a suggestion on this. But after collecting various feedbacks from users, at fedora-i18n meeting, a new proposal is created to replace the previous one. And after recollect these feedbacks, it seems the new proposal is accepted by most users.(Discussion thread in Chinese:http://groups.google.com/group/fedora-cn/browse_thread/thread/617...)
Please review this new proposal, thanks.
The goal of this new proposal is to let Simpilified Chinese (SC) and Traditional Chinese (TC) users choose different fonts. SC users choose SC writing style fonts, while TC users choose TC writing style fonts. some Chinese characters with same unicode code point is written with different style in SC and TC. See: http://tetralet.myweb.hinet.net/blog/Font_Compare.png
Purpose:
To follow the current font policy on Fedora, we consider a new fonts conf for Chinese users in /etc/fonts/conf.d/, as below:
1. When use Simplified Chinese (SC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use WenQuanYi;
2. When use Traditional Chinese (TC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use UMing.
For more details and some other info please read on http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/README.en and http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf.
Needed Changes for this proposal:
For UMing/UKai, I removed the following fontconfig confs to avoid conflicts with other confs and do some clean up on this: 35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf 35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf 41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf 41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf 75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf are removed.
and a updated version of 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf).
For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf).
And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override 65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf.
Note:
For some unknown reason, the fc-match can't give correct results. But it seems gnome/firefox can choose the right fonts, actually I checked it with :
$lsof /usr/share/fonts/*/*
Thanks,
Peng Wu
PS:Please reply to both fedora-fonts and fedora-i18n mailing list.
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From: Peng Wu <pwu(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts
choosing in fontconfig.
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Dear all,
We currently plan to improve Chinese fonts on Fedora 13. Last time we post a mail on fonts and i18n mailing list, as fangqq proposed a suggestion on this. But after collecting various feedbacks from users, at fedora-i18n meeting, a new proposal is created to replace the previous one. And after recollect these feedbacks, it seems the new proposal is accepted by most users.(Discussion thread in Chinese:http://groups.google.com/group/fedora-cn/browse_thread/thread/617...)
Please review this new proposal, thanks.
The goal of this new proposal is to let Simpilified Chinese (SC) and Traditional Chinese (TC) users choose different fonts. SC users choose SC writing style fonts, while TC users choose TC writing style fonts. some Chinese characters with same unicode code point is written with different style in SC and TC. See: http://tetralet.myweb.hinet.net/blog/Font_Compare.png
Purpose:
To follow the current font policy on Fedora, we consider a new fonts conf for Chinese users in /etc/fonts/conf.d/, as below:
1. When use Simplified Chinese (SC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use WenQuanYi;
2. When use Traditional Chinese (TC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use UMing.
For more details and some other info please read on http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/README.en and http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf.
Needed Changes for this proposal:
For UMing/UKai, I removed the following fontconfig confs to avoid conflicts with other confs and do some clean up on this: 35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf 35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf 41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf 41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf 75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf are removed.
and a updated version of 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf).
For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf).
And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override 65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf.
Note:
For some unknown reason, the fc-match can't give correct results. But it seems gnome/firefox can choose the right fonts, actually I checked it with :
$lsof /usr/share/fonts/*/*
Thanks,
Peng Wu
PS:Please reply to both fedora-fonts and fedora-i18n mailing list.
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:21:05 +0900 (JST)
From: Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese
fonts choosing in fontconfig.
To: pwu(a)redhat.com
Cc: cchance(a)redhat.com, i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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>>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:17:57 -0400 (EDT),
>>>>> "PW" == Peng Wu <pwu(a)redhat.com> wrote:
PW> Needed Changes for this proposal:
PW> For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf).
Apparently no explanations about mixing up the upstream
numbering policy and ours in the font policy. so just leave
it so far.
PW> And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override 65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf.
Please use 65-n-blahblahblah.conf instead, such as
65-0-wqy-zenhei.conf, to avoid the policy violation.
--
Akira TAGOH
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by Parag Nemade
FYI,
In rawhide(F14), m17n-lib, m17n-db and m17n-contrib packages are
updated to their latest upstream releases. We have now removed language
specific subpackages to minimize the overhead of maintaining many
subpackages.
The new packaging now provides less used keymaps in subpackage
m17n-{db/contrib}-extras and all other keymaps in main package m17n-db
and m17n-contrib.
Regards,
Parag.
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weekly i18n meeting
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen
Reminder about the weekly i18n meeting tomorrow:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-04-08
Current agenda items include:
* FAS i18n-team updated to i-b(a)fp.o (tagoh)
* F13 relnotes and bugs
o fontconfig binding="same" fixes for f13 (tagoh)
o Splitting TC and SC
* Fonts
o relicensing of Lohit/Liberation?? (pravins)
o new Liberation Fonts contributions coming (kaio)
* Input Methods
o ibus-table and m17n packaging reorganization (kaio,paragan)
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