3:15 p.m.
hi,
since fedora8 I have an awkward problem. In an xterm or console
session all diacritic characters appear like this:
http://www.asenjo.nl/Screenshot-xterm.png
that is, they are replaced by blanks. In other applications like
openoffice this is not a problem.
it is awkward because I am used to using console programs like mutt
for my email, so this is something that I come across really often.
System settings: language is English; the output of locale is:
LC_CTYPE="en_US"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
LC_TIME="en_US"
LC_COLLATE="en_US"
LC_MONETARY="en_US"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
LC_PAPER="en_US"
LC_NAME="en_US"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
LC_ALL=
I have changed the system locale to Spanish (Spain) but it does not
help (I rebooted the system for the changes to take place).
Does anybody know where I could fix this? This has worked perfectly in
fedora6 and fedora7, so I am a bit puzzled.
--
Groeten,
J.Asenjo
6:32 p.m.
Hi Natxo Asenjo,
since fedora8 I have an awkward problem. In an xterm or console
session all diacritic characters appear like this:
http://www.asenjo.nl/Screenshot-xterm.png
that is, they are replaced by blanks. In other applications like
openoffice this is not a problem.
Sorry the screenshot doesn't help me much since I can't read Spanish -
so I am not sure where the blanks are appearing...
it is awkward because I am used to using console programs like mutt
for my email, so this is something that I come across really often.
LC_CTYPE="en_US"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
LC_TIME="en_US"
LC_COLLATE="en_US"
LC_MONETARY="en_US"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
LC_PAPER="en_US"
LC_NAME="en_US"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
Are you intentionally not using UTF-8?
I have changed the system locale to Spanish (Spain) but it does not
help (I rebooted the system for the changes to take place).
Ok.
Does anybody know where I could fix this? This has worked perfectly
in
fedora6 and fedora7, so I am a bit puzzled.
So is it just a display problem in terms?
Jens
11:53 p.m.
On Jan 21, 2008 1:32 AM, Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hi Natxo Asenjo,
> since fedora8 I have an awkward problem. In an xterm or console
> session all diacritic characters appear like this:
> http://www.asenjo.nl/Screenshot-xterm.png
> that is, they are replaced by blanks. In other applications like
> openoffice this is not a problem.
Sorry the screenshot doesn't help me much since I can't read Spanish -
so I am not sure where the blanks are appearing...
ok, fair enough:
I try to see words like (now I copy paste from openoffice):
Iňaki, espaňol, camión
and what I see is:
I aki, espa ol, cami n
> it is awkward because I am used to using console programs like
mutt
> for my email, so this is something that I come across really often.
> LC_CTYPE="en_US"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
> LC_TIME="en_US"
> LC_COLLATE="en_US"
> LC_MONETARY="en_US"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
> LC_PAPER="en_US"
> LC_NAME="en_US"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
Are you intentionally not using UTF-8?
not that I know of. I use the tool in system->administration->
language and choose English (USA); I do not see English utf-8 in there
to change the locale; could you tell me where I can do that?
> I have changed the system locale to Spanish (Spain) but it does
not
> help (I rebooted the system for the changes to take place).
Ok.
> Does anybody know where I could fix this? This has worked perfectly in
> fedora6 and fedora7, so I am a bit puzzled.
So is it just a display problem in terms?
yes, it is just a display problem in terminals (but an annoying one
for me ;-) ).
--
Groeten,
J.Asenjo
12:52 p.m.
2008/1/21 Natxo Asenjo <natxo.asenjo(a)gmail.com>:
On Jan 21, 2008 1:32 AM, Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
I noticed something else. This is the output of $ locale:
> > LC_CTYPE="en_US"
> > LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
> > LC_TIME="en_US"
> > LC_COLLATE="en_US"
> > LC_MONETARY="en_US"
> > LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
> > LC_PAPER="en_US"
> > LC_NAME="en_US"
> > LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
> > LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
> > LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
> > LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
and this of # locale (as root):
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
> Are you intentionally not using UTF-8?
no! if I look in /etc/sysconfig/i18n this is what I see:
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
any more ideas? I really do not understand it. This is so ... nineties.
--
Groeten,
J.Asenjo
6:42 p.m.
Hi
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
I don't know so much about it, but why "LC_ALL= " is blank?
I suggest
you fill it some value. I use japanese in my fedora8 and it works fine
. My locale is like this :
(root's locale )
LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_NUMERIC="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_TIME="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_COLLATE="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_MONETARY="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_MESSAGES="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_PAPER="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_NAME="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_ADDRESS="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_TELEPHONE="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_MEASUREMENT="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_ALL=ja_JP.eucJP
(my locale)
LANG=ja_JP.eucJP
LC_CTYPE="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_NUMERIC="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_TIME="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_COLLATE="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_MONETARY="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_MESSAGES="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_PAPER="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_NAME="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_ADDRESS="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_TELEPHONE="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_MEASUREMENT="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="ja_JP.eucJP"
LC_ALL=ja_JP.eucJP
On Jan 22, 2008 3:52 AM, Natxo Asenjo <natxo.asenjo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/1/21 Natxo Asenjo <natxo.asenjo(a)gmail.com>:
> > On Jan 21, 2008 1:32 AM, Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I noticed something else. This is the output of $ locale:
>
> > > > LC_CTYPE="en_US"
> > > > LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
> > > > LC_TIME="en_US"
> > > > LC_COLLATE="en_US"
> > > > LC_MONETARY="en_US"
> > > > LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
> > > > LC_PAPER="en_US"
> > > > LC_NAME="en_US"
> > > > LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
> > > > LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
> > > > LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
> > > > LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
>
> and this of # locale (as root):
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
>
>
> > > Are you intentionally not using UTF-8?
>
> no! if I look in /etc/sysconfig/i18n this is what I see:
>
> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
> SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
>
> any more ideas? I really do not understand it. This is so ... nineties.
>
> --
> Groeten,
> J.Asenjo
>
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>
7:26 p.m.
Hi Natxo Asenjo,
>> it is awkward because I am used to using console programs
like mutt
>> for my email, so this is something that I come across really often.
>> LC_CTYPE="en_US"
>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
>> LC_TIME="en_US"
>> LC_COLLATE="en_US"
>> LC_MONETARY="en_US"
>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
>> LC_PAPER="en_US"
>> LC_NAME="en_US"
>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
> Are you intentionally not using UTF-8?
not that I know of.
Sounds like you are somehow overriding the locale in your user
configuration. Perhaps you have a ~/.i18n file or set locale in your
shell or desktop startup files?
I use the tool in system->administration->
language and choose English (USA);
That just sets the system locale, which seems to be ok from what you say.
Jens
3:31 p.m.
On Jan 22, 2008 2:26 AM, Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Sounds like you are somehow overriding the locale in your user
configuration. Perhaps you have a ~/.i18n file or set locale in your
shell or desktop startup files?
no, nothing in my .bash* over locale; how does a .i18n file look like?
I do not seem anything to find on the web regarding that and a man
search (apropos i18n) returns only information about perl modules in
my system.
--
Groeten,
J.Asenjo
5:36 p.m.
Anyway maybe more important to you is making sure that setting the
correct locale in your terminal fixes the character problem you're seeing.
Jens
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