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Today's Topics:
1. Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts
choosing in fontconfig. (Peng Wu)
2. Re: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese
fonts choosing in fontconfig. (Akira TAGOH)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:17:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peng Wu <pwu(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts
choosing in fontconfig.
To: fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: Caius Chance <cchance(a)redhat.com>, Jens Petersen
<petersen(a)redhat.com>
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Dear all,
We currently plan to improve Chinese fonts on Fedora 13. Last time we post a mail on
fonts and i18n mailing list, as fangqq proposed a suggestion on this. But after collecting
various feedbacks from users, at fedora-i18n meeting, a new proposal is created to replace
the previous one. And after recollect these feedbacks, it seems the new proposal is
accepted by most users.(Discussion thread in
Chinese:http://groups.google.com/group/fedora-cn/browse_thread/thread/617...)
Please review this new proposal, thanks.
The goal of this new proposal is to let Simpilified Chinese (SC) and Traditional Chinese
(TC) users choose different fonts. SC users choose SC writing style fonts, while TC users
choose TC writing style fonts. some Chinese characters with same unicode code point is
written with different style in SC and TC. See:
http://tetralet.myweb.hinet.net/blog/Font_Compare.png
Purpose:
To follow the current font policy on Fedora, we consider a new fonts conf for Chinese
users in /etc/fonts/conf.d/, as below:
1. When use Simplified Chinese (SC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default
desktop fonts will use WenQuanYi;
2. When use Traditional Chinese (TC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default
desktop fonts will use UMing.
For more details and some other info please read on
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/README.en and
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf.
Needed Changes for this proposal:
For UMing/UKai, I removed the following fontconfig confs to avoid conflicts with other
confs and do some clean up on this: 35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf
35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf 41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf 41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf
75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf are removed.
and a updated version of 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf (from
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf).
For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf).
And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override
65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf.
Note:
For some unknown reason, the fc-match can't give correct results. But it seems
gnome/firefox can choose the right fonts, actually I checked it with :
$lsof /usr/share/fonts/*/*
Thanks,
Peng Wu
PS:Please reply to both fedora-fonts and fedora-i18n mailing list.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:21:05 +0900 (JST)
From: Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese
fonts choosing in fontconfig.
To: pwu(a)redhat.com
Cc: cchance(a)redhat.com, i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:17:57 -0400 (EDT),
>>>> "PW" == Peng Wu <pwu(a)redhat.com> wrote:
PW> Needed Changes for this proposal:
PW> For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf).
Apparently no explanations about mixing up the upstream
numbering policy and ours in the font policy. so just leave
it so far.
PW> And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override
65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from
http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf.
Please use 65-n-blahblahblah.conf instead, such as
65-0-wqy-zenhei.conf, to avoid the policy violation.
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Akira TAGOH