10:15 a.m.
Hi all, I wanted to propose a change for us to migrate this mailing list to the Fedora
Discussion forum using Discourse.
Why make this change? Many Fedora sub-projects, teams, and SIGs are moving their
discussion to the Discourse site. It brings our conversations and discussions closer to
the rest of the project. It is also easier to discover there is an i3 SIG if we create a
new tag (with the help of friendly neighborhood Discourse admins). There have already been
a few i3-related discussions there, although they aren't seen by most packagers and
SIG members unless they search them in other categories.
Why not double down on using the mailing list? For me, I find it difficult to engage. Most
of the notifications I get as a mailing list owner are about spam. I just deleted 42
threads about spam posts in the moderation queue going back to January 2022, of which
there were two legitimate posts on the list. I know we can turn this off, but there are
other cases where we do want to moderate that queue for the occasional legitimate mail
that comes through. To me, mailing lists feel limited in use today in Fedora and it is
also harder now to connect with people who are not deliberately intent on participating
with the i3 SIG folks.
When could this change happen? The i3 SIG is not meeting regularly now, so my assumption
is that it is up to our own discretion as SIG members if this is a change we want to take
and when it could happen. I wanted to start the conversation to get a temperature check on
how others feel now that the Fedora Discussion site is live for almost four years.
Any thoughts?
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1:32 p.m.
Hi Justin,
On April 15, 2022 3:15:07 PM UTC, "Justin W. Flory (he/him)" <foss(a)jwf.io>
wrote:
Hi all, I wanted to propose a change for us to migrate this mailing
list to the Fedora Discussion forum using Discourse.
Why make this change? Many Fedora sub-projects, teams, and SIGs are moving their
discussion to the Discourse site. It brings our conversations and discussions closer to
the rest of the project. It is also easier to discover there is an i3 SIG if we create a
new tag (with the help of friendly neighborhood Discourse admins). There have already been
a few i3-related discussions there, although they aren't seen by most packagers and
SIG members unless they search them in other categories.
Why not double down on using the mailing list? For me, I find it difficult to engage. Most
of the notifications I get as a mailing list owner are about spam. I just deleted 42
threads about spam posts in the moderation queue going back to January 2022, of which
there were two legitimate posts on the list. I know we can turn this off, but there are
other cases where we do want to moderate that queue for the occasional legitimate mail
that comes through. To me, mailing lists feel limited in use today in Fedora and it is
also harder now to connect with people who are not deliberately intent on participating
with the i3 SIG folks.
When could this change happen? The i3 SIG is not meeting regularly now, so my assumption
is that it is up to our own discretion as SIG members if this is a change we want to take
and when it could happen. I wanted to start the conversation to get a temperature check on
how others feel now that the Fedora Discussion site is live for almost four years.
Any thoughts?
I am not opposed to this per se, but I'd like to have the option to still treat the
mailing list as a mailing list and not having to got to discourse (which I find difficult
to engage with). If that is possible, then sure, let's go for it from my side!
Cheers,
Dan
11:39 a.m.
Well, this was on my to answer list for a while now.
To be completely honest, I'm ok with the ML. The team is basically Dan,
Odilon, you (Justin) and me, and we basically communicate by matrix. If we
open a discourse tag, we would probably have more input, but not sure if we
will have the manpower to cover a lot of input.
I'm ok with creating it, but I'm with Dan in keeping the ML.
Best Regards,
El mar, 26 abr 2022 a las 14:33, Dan Čermák (<dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.de>)
escribió:
Hi Justin,
On April 15, 2022 3:15:07 PM UTC, "Justin W. Flory (he/him)"
<foss(a)jwf.io>
wrote:
>Hi all, I wanted to propose a change for us to migrate this mailing list
to the Fedora Discussion forum using Discourse.
>Why make this change? Many Fedora sub-projects, teams, and SIGs are
moving their discussion to the Discourse site. It brings our conversations
and discussions closer to the rest of the project. It is also easier to
discover there is an i3 SIG if we create a new tag (with the help of
friendly neighborhood Discourse admins). There have already been a few
i3-related discussions there, although they aren't seen by most packagers
and SIG members unless they search them in other categories.
>
>Why not double down on using the mailing list? For me, I find it
difficult to engage. Most of the notifications I get as a mailing list
owner are about spam. I just deleted 42 threads about spam posts in the
moderation queue going back to January 2022, of which there were two
legitimate posts on the list. I know we can turn this off, but there are
other cases where we do want to moderate that queue for the occasional
legitimate mail that comes through. To me, mailing lists feel limited in
use today in Fedora and it is also harder now to connect with people who
are not deliberately intent on participating with the i3 SIG folks.
>
>When could this change happen? The i3 SIG is not meeting regularly now,
so my assumption is that it is up to our own discretion as SIG members if
this is a change we want to take and when it could happen. I wanted to
start the conversation to get a temperature check on how others feel now
that the Fedora Discussion site is live for almost four years.
>Any thoughts?
I am not opposed to this per se, but I'd like to have the option to still
treat the mailing list as a mailing list and not having to got to discourse
(which I find difficult to engage with). If that is possible, then sure,
let's go for it from my side!
Cheers,
Dan
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