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1. Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
(susmit shannigrahi)
2. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Debarshi Ray)
3. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
(susmit shannigrahi)
4. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
(Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay)
5. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Mani A)
6. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
(susmit shannigrahi)
7. Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it (susmit shannigrahi)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:22:18 +0530
From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>
Subject: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
To: fedora-india@redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com, "For
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Hi all,
* This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India.
* Please note, you need not spend _any_ money.
* If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
* When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
and when your time permits.
All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts
Thanks.
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Regards,
Susmit.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:10:31 +0530
From: "Debarshi Ray" <debarshi.ray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
To: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>
Cc: fedora-india@redhat.com
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> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>
> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
> and when your time permits.
> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
Cheers,
Debarshi
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:28 +0530
From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
To: debarshi.ray@gmail.com
Cc: fedora-india@redhat.com
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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Debarshi Ray <debarshi.ray@gmail.com> wrote:
>> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
>> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>>
>> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
>> and when your time permits.
>> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>
> If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
> can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
> everyone can follow?
No.
> Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
> content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
Sure. Why not?
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Regards,
Susmit.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 15:08:08 +0530
From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <foss.mailinglists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
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Debarshi Ray wrote:
> If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
> can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
> everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
> content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
There isn't. But this was part of the question set that I had asked in a
separate mail :
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-May/msg00025.html
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:39:44 +0530
From: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:22 AM, susmit shannigrahi
<thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India.
>
> * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money.
>
> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>
> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
> and when your time permits.
> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts
>
Could not edit that immutable page!
My user name is ManiA
Add "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata
Best
A. Mani
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:04:13 +0530
From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
To: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms@gmail.com>
Cc: fedora-india@redhat.com
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> Could not edit that immutable page!
> My user name is ManiA
>
> Add "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata
Thanks for volunteering.
Are not you a member of fedora community?
I mean don't you have an account with fedora accounts system?
If yes, please log in and edit the page. If not, how about being a member?
I can send you the invitation and the required links.
Thanks.
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Regards,
Susmit.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:33:00 +0530
From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it
To: "Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay" <foss.mailinglists@gmail.com>
Cc: fedora-india@redhat.com
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> I had a single question around F9 and FreeMedia and the latter specifically.
> What is a more pressing problem -
>
Both are doable easily.
> [1] ensuring that every request gets a media
This can be done with a much reasonable cost by creating hierarchical
point of contacts.
Say we produce 5000 DVD for a release.
Say Pune gets 500 for the whole release, so may be that shipped to you,
and there are 10 Ambassadors. So may you ask them to pick up required
amount based on demand and other parameters.
> [2] getting the initial media set to those who are participating in the
> FreeMedia program so as to enable them to reach out to the requests
Easy, the media is available at least 4-5 days before release. So
produce them in small quantity and ship them to the contributors,
using speed post or couriour. So they will receive before release and
can use them as a master copy. That would require max 50 INR for each
shipment (both i386 and x86_64 included).
>
> If, [1] is the need of the day, we would try to get a substantial number of
> LiveMedia created and shipped to a select few folks based on the trends of
> FreeMedia requests. Besides getting them to MirrorManagers in India.
Let both [1] & [2] continue.
We accept a fixed number of free requests, say 50 each month for if
someone really need them.
Given the option to choose from [1] & [2] I shall choose [2], because,
when someone afford a computer, he/she can afford one or two DVD
without any problem.
But keeping [1] alive is recommended because if someone is new to
fedora and _suspicious_ about how good is it, but wants to try it
out, he/she generally would be more interested in a FreeMedia rather
than spending for it.
> If, [2] is seem to be the bottleneck, then it would be an easier task to
> generate a Everything (x86 and x86_64) and a LiveMedia set created and sent
> to folks who would agree to be contact points across regions.
It is _not_ a bottleneck. As my professors say , a distributed system
can not be bottlenecked. :)
> The constraints in the scenario are:
>
> i] there is only a finite number of LiveMedia that can be created
> ii] postage and courier charges are the ones where most money is spent
This can be reduced by bulk posting, as I said for example, sending
all the quota of Pune to you, and get that distributed among local
cantacts/Ambassadors.
> iii] the quantity of LiveMedia done as per [1] has to be consumed before F10
> is out
>
> So, what do I push to get done ?
According to me, a reasonable number, (fixed after discussion, may be
anything between 2000-5000) of media produced for each release.
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Regards,
Susmit.
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