3:36 a.m.
Hi,
Lots of guys are coming up to me asking how to dual boot Fedora 13 and
Win (XP/7/Vista) on their systems. I guide them to manually partition
their drives during Installation and have a separate free space for
creating ext and swap partitions so as to avoid any hassles during
installation. However many people are coming with just a SINGLE
partition on the whole disk, having Windows and wish to install
Fedora. The Fedora 13 installation is having a 'shrink' feature as I
see. I tried it on a Windows VM in VirtualBox but it erased Windows
and installed Fedora. I tried the shrink feature in Ubuntu 10.04 using
a similar Windows VM and it made a dual boot machine successfully.
Kindly help..where am I going wrong? Should I use GParted Live CD/USB
[1]? Tomorrow is InstallFest and students with such queries are bound
to come. Kindly help asap..
[1] http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
Suchakra
3:48 a.m.
On 30/07/10 09:36, Suchakra wrote:
Hi,
Lots of guys are coming up to me asking how to dual boot Fedora 13 and
Win (XP/7/Vista) on their systems.
Boot Windows normally,
use DiskManager to shring the Windows volune
iirc Administrative tools > Managment > Storage
Then when that finished you have a spare partition in which to install
Fedora. YMMV
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4:45 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:48 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/07/10 09:36, Suchakra wrote:
> Hi,
> Lots of guys are coming up to me asking how to dual boot Fedora 13 and
> Win (XP/7/Vista) on their systems.
Boot Windows normally,
use DiskManager to shring the Windows volune
iirc Administrative tools > Managment > Storage
Then when that finished you have a spare partition in which to install
Fedora. YMMV
You need to defrag, disable paging, and shadowing before you can get a
good size out of the shrink (out of 250GB of free space I could only
shrink by 8G because it wasn't defragged, and shadowing, etc was all on)
-H
5:41 a.m.
Thanks for the responses. Just to add, I've used the shrink utility in
windows before. Its true as Hiemanshu points out that defrag should be
done or else its not good. However in Win XP the shrink feature is not
even there, so I'll be stuck there for sure. I think I'll use a
Gparted Live USB for those in need tomorrow.
Also I'll file a bug report only after checking if the problem occurs
on an actual physical system too.
Thanks all,
Suchakra
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma <hiemanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:48 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/07/10 09:36, Suchakra wrote:
> Hi,
> Lots of guys are coming up to me asking how to dual boot Fedora 13 and
> Win (XP/7/Vista) on their systems.
Boot Windows normally,
use DiskManager to shring the Windows volune
iirc Administrative tools > Managment > Storage
Then when that finished you have a spare partition in which to install
Fedora. YMMV
You need to defrag, disable paging, and shadowing before you can get a good
size out of the shrink (out of 250GB of free space I could only shrink by 8G
because it wasn't defragged, and shadowing, etc was all on)
-H
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5:48 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 16:11 +0530, Suchakra wrote:
Thanks for the responses. Just to add, I've used the shrink
utility in
windows before. Its true as Hiemanshu points out that defrag should be
done or else its not good. However in Win XP the shrink feature is not
even there, so I'll be stuck there for sure. I think I'll use a
Gparted Live USB for those in need tomorrow.
Also I'll file a bug report only after checking if the problem occurs
on an actual physical system too.
Thanks all,
Suchakra
This is another page you should be aware of while hosting an install
fest. A lot of folks will end up losing their windows boot loader etc.
I'm looking forward to your report. :)
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
"FranciscoD"
8:13 a.m.
Thanks for the link. I'm still working on the original issue. Lets see
what's the scene tomorrow. I'l put up a report in a couple of days.
Suchakra
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 16:11 +0530, Suchakra wrote:
> Thanks for the responses. Just to add, I've used the shrink utility in
> windows before. Its true as Hiemanshu points out that defrag should be
> done or else its not good. However in Win XP the shrink feature is not
> even there, so I'll be stuck there for sure. I think I'll use a
> Gparted Live USB for those in need tomorrow.
>
> Also I'll file a bug report only after checking if the problem occurs
> on an actual physical system too.
>
> Thanks all,
> Suchakra
This is another page you should be aware of while hosting an install
fest. A lot of folks will end up losing their windows boot loader etc.
> http://fedorasolved.org/installation-solutions/dd-db-fix
I'm looking forward to your report. :)
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
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8:38 a.m.
I'm sorry I haven't. I tried once a couple of months back i think and
was unable to do so. I uploaded my gpg key too to FAS and waited for a
day as was written but unfortunately couldn't connect. I tried again
with another machine and then forgot to do it altogether. I'll try it
with my another Fedora machine on monday and tell you. By the way,
InstallFest is done with. Kushal came too to meet us. I hope it was a
success (despite some minor glitches on our part). I'll make a report
and put it up by tuesday.
Suchakra
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 07/30/2010 06:43 PM, Suchakra wrote:
> Thanks for the link. I'm still working on the original issue. Lets see
> what's the scene tomorrow. I'l put up a report in a couple of days.
>
> Suchakra
Have you added yourself to Planet Fedora?
Rahul
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3:50 a.m.
On 07/30/2010 02:06 PM, Suchakra wrote:
Hi,
Lots of guys are coming up to me asking how to dual boot Fedora 13 and
Win (XP/7/Vista) on their systems. I guide them to manually partition
their drives during Installation and have a separate free space for
creating ext and swap partitions so as to avoid any hassles during
installation. However many people are coming with just a SINGLE
partition on the whole disk, having Windows and wish to install
Fedora. The Fedora 13 installation is having a 'shrink' feature as I
see. I tried it on a Windows VM in VirtualBox but it erased Windows
and installed Fedora.
This should be reported esp if it can be reproduced in a physical
machine. Otherwise gparted should work fine. As always recommend
backups before doing installations or upgrades.
Rahul
3:54 a.m.
On 30/07/10 09:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
This should be reported esp if it can be reproduced in a physical
machine. Otherwise gparted should work fine. As always recommend
backups before doing installations or upgrades.
The more correct method would be to resize Windows from windows.
Been there done that.
Regards,
Frank Murphy
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3:55 a.m.
On 30/07/10 09:54, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/07/10 09:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Forgot the link:
http://thpc.info/dual/win7/dualboot_win7+fedora11_grub_on_win7.html
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4:01 a.m.
On 30 July 2010 14:24, Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The more correct method would be to resize Windows from windows.
Been there done that.
Yes windows does a good job of shrinking its partition . I definitely
would recommend shrinking windows with windows default utility to give
space for other partition which could happily be used for fedora
installation .
Regards,
Pavithran
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4:10 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 14:31 +0530, pavithran wrote:
On 30 July 2010 14:24, Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The more correct method would be to resize Windows from windows.
> Been there done that.
Yes windows does a good job of shrinking its partition . I definitely
would recommend shrinking windows with windows default utility to give
space for other partition which could happily be used for fedora
installation .
Regards,
Pavithran
Just to point it out.
A lot of times, the windows shrink utility does not let you shrink to
the amount of free space. I've had a lot of trouble at install fests
with this. I'll look around if I can dig up the howto when things get
ugly like this. It's rare, but it does happen.
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Ankur
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
"FranciscoD"
4:08 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 14:06 +0530, Suchakra wrote:
Hi,
Lots of guys are coming up to me asking how to dual boot Fedora 13 and
Win (XP/7/Vista) on their systems. I guide them to manually partition
their drives during Installation and have a separate free space for
creating ext and swap partitions so as to avoid any hassles during
installation. However many people are coming with just a SINGLE
partition on the whole disk, having Windows and wish to install
Fedora. The Fedora 13 installation is having a 'shrink' feature as I
see. I tried it on a Windows VM in VirtualBox but it erased Windows
and installed Fedora. I tried the shrink feature in Ubuntu 10.04 using
a similar Windows VM and it made a dual boot machine successfully.
Kindly help..where am I going wrong? Should I use GParted Live CD/USB
[1]? Tomorrow is InstallFest and students with such queries are bound
to come. Kindly help asap..
[1] http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
Suchakra
Hi,
It is best to ask them to use the Windows utility to shrink their
partitions and then make free space to be use for Fedora.
IIRC, you can right click on My Computer > Manage > Disk Management >
right click on your drive > shrink.
This is by far the safest way. However, sometimes it's a HUGE pain
because you need to disable and delete shadow files etc. I don't
remember the entire procedure any more. It's been a long time since I
dual booted.
The Fedora shrink feature should not erase the windows partition. Please
file a bug if this is reproducible. Using GParted should be fine too.
Also look at fedorasolved.org pages such as
They contain a lot of info.
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Ankur
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