Meeting Log 2009-03-26
by Xavier Lamien
Here is the meeting log of this week.
Also attached an html formatted's
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15:07 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Who's here?
15:07 * skvidal is
15:08 * jds2001 is in the cheap seats
15:08 < ggruener> ping
15:08 -!- mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom(a)cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has
joined #fedora-meeting
15:08 < mmcgrath> k, lets get started
15:08 * SmootherFrOgZ is
15:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Tickets
15:08 < mdomsch> yo
15:09 < mmcgrath> .tiny
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=as...
15:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y
15:09 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1203
15:09 < dgilmore> sup yall
15:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1203 (RFR: x86_64 host for composing spins)
- Fedora Infrastructure - Trac -
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1203
15:09 < mmcgrath> This one's still blocking on me, I'm working with
one of the virt guys to figure out what's going on.
15:09 < mmcgrath> it's certainly a bug of somekind
15:09 < mmcgrath> So nothing new there
15:10 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Beta Release Tickets
15:10 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
15:10 < skvidal> jds2001: there are expensive seats?
15:10 < mmcgrath> Everything here is still good from last week, just
been delayed
15:10 -!- bpepple|lt
[n=bpepple|(a)adsl-69-214-168-154.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has quit
["Ex-Chat"]
15:11 < mmcgrath> Right now we're scheduled to do a beta release on the 31st.
15:11 < mmcgrath> f13: that still the case?
15:12 * mmcgrath will assume it is unless he hears otherwise.
15:12 < mmcgrath> So that's it on that
15:12 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Calendar system
15:12 < mmcgrath> Did everyone here the email susmit sent out today?
15:12 < jds2001> no, but i saw it :)
15:12 < skvidal> heh
15:12 < dgilmore> I did
15:12 < mmcgrath> read it
15:12 < dgilmore> te3xt to speech in all its robotic goodness
15:13 < mmcgrath> my fingers can't keep up with my brain anymore, and
it seems to be a UDP communication
15:13 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: my main question is how hard will it be to
setup that desktop calandering apps can manage
15:13 < mmcgrath> herlo: you around?
15:14 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: no idea
15:15 < mmcgrath> we'll have to see what herlo and susmit come up with.
15:15 < mmcgrath> I'm not even sure what's available and stuff.
15:15 < mmcgrath> seems they're not really around though so we can move on.
15:15 < mmcgrath> anyone have any questions or comments more on the
calendar stuff? susmit's not here so it's probably best to take
it to the list anyway.
15:16 < dgilmore> take it to the list
15:16 < mmcgrath> cool
15:16 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Cloud Stuff
15:16 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: you around?
15:16 < SmootherFrOgZ> yep
15:17 < mmcgrath> sweet
15:17 < mmcgrath> so the hardware finally has network.
15:17 < mmcgrath> as of yesterday
15:17 < mmcgrath> so woot.
15:17 < mmcgrath> I'm going through and getting the RSAII cards fixed
up, next is going to be getting the sysadmin-cloud (or whatever
that group was) on those hosts.
15:17 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: have you seen the latest ovirt release?
15:18 < mmcgrath> 0.97 is out, but it's not obvious from the ovirt.org
website, it's just up in their ovirt repo
15:18 < mmcgrath> http://ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/10/x86_64/
15:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> yeah, i plan to give it a shot this week-end
15:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> and rebuild it for rhel
15:19 < jds2001> why rebuild for rhel?
15:19 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: excellent, mind moving the cloud wiki
page under Infrastructure/ some place? And I'll get the IP
information in there soon.
15:19 < jds2001> these machines run fedora, no?
15:19 < jds2001> or am I missing info again? :D
15:19 < mmcgrath> jds2001: they actually will run Fedora, the nodes anyway
15:19 < SmootherFrOgZ> i don't
15:19 < mmcgrath> :)
15:20 < mmcgrath> So things are going ok there.
15:20 < mmcgrath> We continue to have some... less then easy to work
with network restrictions.
15:20 < mmcgrath> for example outbound ntp is currently blocked.
15:20 < mmcgrath> but we're working with the network team to figure
out what all to do about that.
15:20 < SmootherFrOgZ> so, will we keep fedora for those boxes ?
15:21 < jds2001> sync'ing time is dangerous stuff you know!
15:21 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: probably, that's what their devs are using.
15:22 < SmootherFrOgZ> k.
15:23 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any other questions on that?
15:24 < mmcgrath> k
15:24 < mmcgrath> well with that
15:24 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Open Floor
15:26 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything to discuss?
15:26 < wwoods> a quick question: the current implementation of
DebuginfoFS requires >200GB disk and a davfs server.
15:27 < mmcgrath> :) things have gotten quiet.
15:27 < wwoods> is that a ridiculous amount of disk to request in an RFR?
15:27 < mmcgrath> wwoods: you can request whatever you want, not sure
we'll be able to accomidate it (at least not without ordering
new hardware)
15:27 < mmcgrath> but ask for whatever you think you'll need and we'll
see what we can do.
15:28 -!- neverho0d [n=psv(a)vpn-pool-78-139-211-211.tomtel.ru] has quit
[Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
15:28 < jds2001> oh
15:28 < jds2001> if anyone has leads -
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/hou/1093260152.html :D
15:28 < mmcgrath> wwoods: it gets easier if that 200G doesn't need to
be highly available / redundant.
15:28 < mmcgrath> jds2001: heh
15:28 < wwoods> heh. I'm just trying to figure out whether to follow
the "get new hardware" path or the "write code so we can just
export the files from the RPMs" one
15:29 < mmcgrath> :)
15:29 < mmcgrath> wwoods: go ahead and create the ticket and we can
discuss it more.
15:29 < wwoods> they're just unpacked debuginfo RPMs - don't need
backups or real HA/redundancy
15:29 < wwoods> fair 'nuff
15:30 < skvidal> jds2001: move out of ny?
15:30 < jds2001> skvidal: more like move *to* ny :)
15:30 < jds2001> i live across the river in jersey now.
15:30 < mmcgrath> jds2001: Well good luck with that.
15:31 < mmcgrath> :)
15:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else? If not we can close the
meeting early.
15:31 < mmcgrath> lots of stuff is on hold from the change freeze :-/
15:31 < SmootherFrOgZ> just one
15:31 * mdomsch has a MM update pending thaw
15:31 < SmootherFrOgZ> do you guys know what do i need to help luke on
getting epel works with bodhi ?
15:32 < SmootherFrOgZ> i'd like to help him and get things done asap
15:32 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: I'm not actually sure, We basically
have to duplicate (or hopefully simplify a bit) what releng is
doing right now
15:32 < mmcgrath> which will mean we need another signing server for epel.
15:32 < mmcgrath> I can do that part.
15:32 < mmcgrath> But as for the coding side of thigns? I'm not sure.
15:32 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: I know you use koji at work, is that
still true?
15:33 < SmootherFrOgZ> yeah i know for this part but, bodhi need some
code update that i can do :)
15:33 < SmootherFrOgZ> mmcgrath: correct
15:33 < mmcgrath> Do you use bodhi too?
15:33 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: he updated the ticket
15:33 < SmootherFrOgZ> yeah, just in pre-prod for now (i plan to add
it to rpmfusion)
15:33 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: which ticket is it?
15:33 * mmcgrath hasn't looked at it in a bit.
15:34 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: execellent i'll have a look in a
couple of minutes
15:34 < mmcgrath> Cool, anyone have anything else?
15:34 < mmcgrath> If not we'll close in 30
15:35 < mmcgrath> 10
15:35 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to:
Infrastructure -- Meeting Closed
15:35 < mmcgrath> Thanks for coming everyone!
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15 years, 1 month
Infrastructure freeze breakage request: Banner from DL linking to new Transifex
by Asgeir Frimannsson
Hi folks,
Can I get an ack or two to commit a change in the Damned Lies CVS repository that adds a banner to the top of each page with the following content:
These pages are served by Damned Lies. You can now use <a href="https://translate.fedoraproject.org/tx/">Transifex</a> for all your translation needs, including viewing Translation Statistics, as well as downloading and committing translations.
There might be better ways of saying this - but I'm not in creative-mode today, suggestions welcome :-)
Patch follows below.
cheers,
asgeir
Index: header.tmpl
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/l10n/web/flpweb/templates/header.tmpl,v
retrieving revision 1.24
diff -r1.24 header.tmpl
119d118
< <!--
122,123c121
< $_("These pages are still not authorative. Do not rely upon this data yet.")
< <img style="margin: 0 1em;" src="${webroot}/data/fedora/icons/dialog-warning24.png" alt="warning" />
---
> These pages are served by Damned Lies. You can now use <a href="https://translate.fedoraproject.org/tx/">Transifex</a> for all your translation needs, including viewing Translation Statistics, as well as downloading and committing translations.
125d122
< -->
15 years, 1 month
rsync errors on secondary
by Adrian Reber
I get rsync errors on secondary for the last couple of days:
rsync: send_files failed to open "/updates/9/SRPMS/.kde-l10n-4.2.1-1.fc9.src.rpm.eGYiPW" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13)
Adrian
15 years, 1 month
Participation in fedora infrastructure management
by nehal dattani
Hello Everybody,
I am member of fedora infrastructure group and fedora ambassadors for some
time but was not able to contribute to infrastructure group actively. Now I
want to be part of this team and want to contribute actively in
infrastructure management.
Presently I am working with a small company and managing few servers and
desktops here. (We are using fedora on both desktop and server platforms.)
I want somebody to help me and guide me about how can i contribute to the
infrastructure management.
Can anybody please help me?
Regards,
Nehal Dattani
15 years, 1 month
Developer UI for PackageDB
by ranjith kannikara
I name is Ranjith Babu Kannikara. I am a pre-final year student in
govt.Engg College Thrissur, kerala(india). I have been learning
c,python,and their APIs for quite good amount of time. And Java and
Lisp as of now. I have little experience in working with some large
code-base from the last year GSOC in which I have worked with the Zope
Foundation in project 'Porting Zope2 to python2.5' .
My GSOC proposal is for making the PackageDB Developer UI more
flexible and friendly for the developers so that It wont waste the
valuable time of the developer. The present Developer UI is outdated
and needs serious changes and some additional options that will make
it easy to handle the acls, within much lesser time and with much less
effort. And it implemented by including more check boxes and buttons and
by setting reminders for works to be done.
The ideas are listed in detail in the wiki page
https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/wiki/NewDevUI
The works to be done over the project have a flow like this..
* Aggregating the options that are to be there in the UI.
* Arranging the options with check boxes and buttons instead of select
boxes.
:- ie arranging the options in rows and coloumns with each rows
start with a user and the check boxes/buttons in
the row contains the permissions that can be given to the user.
:- if there is more choice of permissions for each user then
checking itself will be annoying then there will be some
extra coloumns( 2 or 3 ) of check boxes corresponding to each
user like 'give full permissions' 'give minimal
permissions' and a custom set .
:- these boxes, as their names indicate, will automatically give
checkings in a set of boxes the developer may define
a custom set if he find himself giving a set of permissions
together quite often.
( I can make a picture of how the UI will be like after the
summer, and it will be easy for me if I could get the other
options than 'Approve' and 'Awaiting for review' )
* After the list of the users a button to add new user can be given
which will expand to a text box on click. And this check box will
automatically search and match the text with the names in the list
user as it is entered in the box. ( Implementing such a button and
text box wont be difficult with javascript ).
* Such a button can be provided for the co-maintainer/watcher or the
button it will be enough to provide provisions in the first button it
self to make the new user co-maintainer/watcher once a new user is
added.( All these work belongs to the UI and it will not be difficult
when each button are defined to perform the background works for these
options assigned to them.
* In the page, Toshio have given (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/
pkgdb/packages/name/python), we can see links to bug reports, package
status etc. Another link named ' Active Requests' can be added there
which will refer to a page that lists the active requests. The
requests can also be arranged so that it can be handled within no time
but this needs me to get an idea about the possible requests a
developer can get.
* As the requests are being listed it is easy to track what happens to
the request and and if a request is being left unnoticed or in some
state of waiting this track can be used to get the list of requests
that needs sending remainders. ( Here i need some more help from some
one else to generate the automatic reminders)
* As our implementation of the new UI will be much like a new
Interface with either the background or the existing page itself as
background for the new UI. In such way of implementation it will be
easy to show the respective EOL only and give options to switch in
between them.
Awaiting your reply
Ranju
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15 years, 1 month
Re: Introducing: Alin Crețu
by Alin Cretu
Hello,
I am snooping around to find some introduction documents or a
presentation about procedures used by fedora infrastructure to
operate/manages the servers in scope. Unfortunately I could not find any
until now.
Are there any such introduction documents ? If yes, could somebody
actually point me to the right link/document ?
It would be nice to have a look and get acquainted with the rules of the
game before actually starting to play the game. ;)
-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: cralin(a)gmail.com <cralin(a)gmail.com>
> To: Fedora Infrastructure <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Introducing: Alin Crețu
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:23:20 +0100
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 08:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
>
> > Welcome Alin, was there a particular FIG you were interested in getting
> > involved with? Feel free to stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net to
> > say hello.
> >
> > -Mike
> > _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
>
>
>
> To be honest, at this moment I'm not really sure.
>
> I guess it's not really important for me to be part of one FIG or the
> other as it is helping out whenever/wherever I can.
>
> Reading the descriptions of the FIGs I think I might be able to hep in
> sysadmin, sysadmin-tools, sysadmin-backup and/or sysadmin-noc. However
> the descriptions are somewhat short and it might take a while to get
> used with the tools/procedures used in each FIG.
>
> Suggestions are always welcomed :)
>
>
15 years, 1 month
Hello
by Trevor Jagoda
Hello!
I am a new prospect to the world of Fedora, and I'd like to help out in the
infrastructure team.
By day, I am an IT Administrator for a mid-sized manufacturing company, and
am currently in the process of attaining a Bachelors Degree in Information
Technology. Most of my experience thus far has been with Debian-based
distributions, but that is still fairly light (I work for a windows-driven
company, and have not had enough time to begin to change that).
I would rank myself something above newbie, but certainly somewhere below
intermediate.
Additionally, I have the entire O'Reily library on Python, but I haven't yet
had the time/motivation to start reading through it. I'm hoping that I'll
find some projects here to encourage that process along!
Hello again, to all!
Trevor
15 years, 1 month
Memory issue
by Mike McGrath
What am I missing here? This happened on db3 again -
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 18480632 18383512 97120 0 25968 17305332
-/+ buffers/cache: 1052212 17428420
Swap: 3145720 3145720 0
1) This box was swapping out like crazy.
2) All swap was full
3) oomkiller didn't start
4) Load went up a little bit, topped out at 3
5) no issues with the box at all, has postgres on it, kept running, wasn't
slow, box was completely responsive.
6) It's done this before, and aside from nagios alerting us the swap was
full, not had any issues with the box.
7) vm.swappiness = 60 which IIRC is the default
-Mike
15 years, 1 month
