January 2014 - infrastructure - Fedora mailing-lists

Ask Fedora: Do we need to add a "solved" tag to answered questions to increase visibility in search engines
by Ankur Sinha 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Hi, I don't think we had a formal discussion about this. We've noticed questions with [solved] in the summary recently. There are two scenarios when this is being used: - the question was answered properly, and the answer did actually help - the person did something like a reinstall, and the question isn't pertinent any more (the poster doesn't need it anymore, so he just adds [solved] and moves on.) We can always close questions with the "answer was accepted" solution, but I'm not for using that. More answers can always be given, and answers can always be improved. Here's the first proposal: - Add "Please do not add the [Solved] keyword to your question summaries. If you received an answer that solved the issue, please mark the answer as correct and reward the helper with karma." to the user guidelines. Now, the addition of the term "solved" somewhere in the question does help in a way: it helps improve search results, say google/bing/whatever (This is based on my basic understanding of SEO etc, please correct me if I'm mistaken). So, an additional proposal: - Mods add a "solved" tag to questions that they feel are properly answered, and the answer was accepted, just to ensure that search engines associate the term with the question. This will ensure that the second case mentioned earlier doesn't occur and improve search results too. google search -> "site:ask.fedoraproject.org create desktop shortcuts solved" Now, I do see that stack exchange doesn't do this sort of thing at all, so proposal 2 might not be required at all. Also, since we're now using instances for languages, shouldn't we have a set of guildelines for moderators, if we don't already? To ensure that everyone follows the same system etc.? I still need to talk to the Spanish mods about the use of the "user group" functionality. Should I ask them to join the infra ML, or is there a simpler way of speaking to all mods? Considering that we do all our discussion here, maybe they should be required to join the infra list? I think a separate ML for mods would be overkill. Comments? -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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Plan for tomorrow's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-01-30)
by Kevin Fenzi 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

The infrastructure team will be having it's weekly meeting tomorrow, 2014-01-30 at 19:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the freenode network. Suggested topics: #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices would like to ask general questions, they can do so in this part of the meeting. Don't be shy! #topic Applications status / discussion Check in on status of our applications: pkgdb, fas, bodhi, koji, community, voting, tagger, packager, dpsearch, etc. If there's new releases, bugs we need to work around or things to note. #topic Sysadmin status / discussion Here we talk about sysadmin related happenings from the previous week, or things that are upcoming. #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ #topic Open Floor Submit your agenda items, as tickets in the trac instance and send a note replying to this thread. More info here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings#Meetings Thanks kevin

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ask fedora -- explanations for edits?
by Matthew Miller 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

What happened to the form where you could explain why you made an edit? Did we lose that in the update? -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Joseph Walton-Rivers
by Joseph Walton-Rivers 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Hello, My IRC handle is WebPigeon. I graduated from University last year and have been a long time Fedora/Linux user. I have an interest in software development and system administration. I work for a local company and maintain the IT systems there as well as dealing with end user requests. I also work on small web based projects using Django for the same company and as a hobby. I'd like to help by working on the web applications and hopefully get involved with/learn more about server administration. Regards, Joseph

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Porting bodhi to ansible
by Janez Nemanič 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

Hi, I am working on ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4193. So far I have managed to port just the puppet's basic bodhi class. I think that should be basic role for bodhi in ansible. Now I am a little uncertain what to do next. I am not sure how many other roles should create in ansible. The most simple solution would be to have the following roles: - bodhi_base - bodhi_app - bodhi_app_masher - bodhi_proxy - bodhi_app_epelmasher - bodhi_app_masher_jobrunner This is just mapping of puppet's bodhi classes to ansible roles. What I am asking myself is do I really need that many roles? Is it possible to do the job with fewer roles? Could other infra team members share their thoughts with me and help me a little bit? -- Janez Nemanic Lep pozdrav Best regards

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Re: Problem to get mirror from epel 6 & 7
by Adrian Reber 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:03:24AM +0100, Julien Ippolito wrote: > Hi, we have some problem to get mirror fore epel-6 for all arch. > > http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-6&arch=x86_64 > > we get this error : > > # Bad Request 7373 > # {'repo': u'epel-6', 'IP': IP('82.227.12.86'), 'client_ip': > u'82.227.12.86', 'metalink': False, 'arch': u'x86_64'} I am sending it to the fedora infrastructure list. I can confirm the error. metalink still seems to work; mirrorlist not. Adrian

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Python 3 roadmap for applications?
by Stephen John Smoogen 24 Jan '14

24 Jan '14

In looking at the EPEL and EL7 coming up I realized that EL7 does not ship python3 currently. How does this affect our roadmap plans for moving to Python3 in the near future and if it does how much work do we expect it to be to support python3.4 in EPEL? I figured this was more of an infrastructure -- Stephen J Smoogen.

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fedoraproject.org SIP service?
by Daniel Pocock 24 Jan '14

24 Jan '14

Hi, debian.org is in the progress of enabling a SIP service for the developer community. Many of the same tools used for debian.org are in Fedora as well. I have been helping get the reSIProcate package into shape for this type of use and I would be happy to help the Fedora community benefit from this. Ideally, we would have a situation where sip:user@debian.org can call sip:user@fedoraproject.org and vice versa. I understand Fedora does not provide full ISP-like services (e.g. mailboxes) to the community and Debian is much the same. A SIP service would not be a full software PBX like Asterisk or FreeSWITCH. It would simply be a SIP proxy that enables interconnection between project members. If some people want to connect their private Asterisk servers to the SIP proxy they can do that, but there would be no obligation to maintain things like that centrally. An overview of the project at Debian is in this wiki, I'm quite happy to make a version of this adapted for the Fedora wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCommunications/DebianDevelopers I'll be up at FOSDEM in two weeks, so if anybody wants to discuss or work on any aspect of this in person at that time please feel free to get in touch. Regards, Daniel

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction: sart
by dashcom 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hello everyone! I wanted to introduce myself, sart, and offer my assistance as a new volunteer with the Fedora Infrastructure Group. I volunteered very briefly approx. 11/11 - 1/12 and hope to stick around much longer this time. IRC handle: sart (can't remember my old handle last time I volunteered, so this is a new one) skills: I am currently attending Boston University Metro. College online, part-time, working toward MSCIS with security concentration. My skills are limited at this point, but include CentOS/RHEL basic administration tasks, good grasp of using CLI, VIM, basic BASH scripting, basic admin tasks, system configuration, backups, basic concepts of intrusion detection and prevention, hardening systems... What I'd like to work on: this ticket piques my interest https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/833 (intrusion detection system) or https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2455 (SSL redirect bug), anything related to security, system administration (scripting, security, backup/restore, account management, networking, etc.-- any skills that are useful for someone focusing on security). I also really want to develop my programming skills (my experience is mostly in Java, so I am interested in Java or Python, Perl, PHP-- I want to finally get a chance to go beyond 'beginner' in at least one of the languages above and prove to myself that I can get good at it) I'm currently unemployed, looking to develop a foundation of solid skills which will help me transition as a career-changer back into the IT field, so anything in addition to skill interests I listed above which can help me get my foot in the door somewhere can be added to the list. Thanks in advance for your patience with neophytes like myself!

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Plan for tomorrow's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-01-23)
by Kevin Fenzi 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

The infrastructure team will be having it's weekly meeting tomorrow, 2014-01-23 at 19:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the freenode network. Suggested topics: #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices would like to ask general questions, they can do so in this part of the meeting. Don't be shy! #topic Applications status / discussion Check in on status of our applications: pkgdb, fas, bodhi, koji, community, voting, tagger, packager, dpsearch, etc. If there's new releases, bugs we need to work around or things to note. #topic Sysadmin status / discussion Here we talk about sysadmin related happenings from the previous week, or things that are upcoming. #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ #topic Open Floor Submit your agenda items, as tickets in the trac instance and send a note replying to this thread. More info here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings#Meetings Thanks kevin

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Ask Fedora: May I please add a "Use your votes!" message to the question page sidebar header?
by Ankur Sinha 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hi, May I please add this to the question page sidebar header: <div class="box"> <h2>Use your votes!</h2> <h5>Use the 30 daily voting points that you get! Up-vote well framed questions that provide enough information to enable people to provide answers. Thank your helpers by up-voting their comments and answers to your questions. On the other hand, remember that down-voting will cost you karma points too, so only down-vote if you think it absolutely necessary!</h5> </div> It'll display like this: https://ask.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/question/197/here-is-a-question-at-170… I still think people don't use their karma. This will give the system some visibility. Comments (Yes/No/Rephrases/Formatting changes)? -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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About cnucnu web
by Pierre-Yves Chibon 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

Dear all, As you may know, over the last few weeks I have been working on a small project called (for the moment) cnucnu web. You can already see it in place at: http://209.132.184.188/cnucnu/ The idea is to provide a web-interface to the release monitoring script that is being run for the moment via the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring So this web-application replaces the wiki page, allows mapping of projects into linux distributions and anyone with an OpenID account can contribute to it. On the back, there is a cron job that runs, check for new version of the project with the information provided and send a message on fedmsg for every new version found. The idea is to host the project on the Fedora infrastructure but, I would prefer not have it under the fedoraproject.org name as I see it as a broader project than just for Fedora: Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, Slack, Suse, we all can benefit from this. I also would like to have it broadcast messages on the debian version of fedmsg (I'm already in contact with Olsad for this). So, what I would like to ask is: * what do you think of the project? Worth pursuing or not? * Where should it live? * Domain name suggestions? (release-monitoring.org, cnucnu.org, cnucnuweb.org, <insert here you own idea>?) So if we agree to get it up and running, I foresee few steps: * Check with legal if there are any limitations (ie: can we put non-FOSS projects in there?) * Get the domain name * Update the UI: we already have a design but I think it could be made nicer (especially the front page) -- Any volunteers? * Deploy it and see w/ Debian how to have it send messages onto their bus * Set the DNS to point to the website I will start the first step now already. Thoughts? Pierre

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Using "user groups" on Ask Fedora
by Ankur Sinha 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

Hi, I noticed that the Spanish moderators have activated "user groups" on their section. I was wondering if there are any benefits of activating these on all sections? From [1], I don't see any advantages, or specific functions these groups can add for us. Do we want to keep a uniform set of settings for all language sections? I think each section can have their own settings, but it's probably better if we have a minimum set of uniform rules (karma etc.) across them all? [1] http://askbot.org/en/question/8238/what-are-user-groups/ -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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Updating CSI Security Policy
by Joerg Stephan 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, it was topic during the last infrastructure meeting that the CSI Security Policy may is a bit outdated. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Community_Services_Infrastructure/1/ht… i would like to review, expand and update it. If nobody else is currently working on it, I will start to go through the text and and commit changes and updates. Cheers - -- Joerg Stephan https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS3u3KAAoJEMkH+YqO31/BCvEH/j1dnPAE1OI4OPhwQ5UXCipJ gXlGP4K8Tm1GfJe4zpbIE5RiOcEfTSkjmbEATM6SrPH04ro0orHsgLjrBt28OuER x/NNL3toG7lelVlHNdTp2Kp0vp//pzxDpTbwG72aJFLxX2XC9KUXneWBB1vG7Q4a tcr+2EdR9r0BNT/HTPX4v2LP5yo2mGKqY0K6DKQLHGJ/Vm7bMAKFgOnjhhuJsUUh CJz0/MedA5U/vOAYRD1hAv6k+DCNqnTvXWALywlDa6iBcZKEid1ejigs/kv/nq7I l9U/zN3VaqeYhD/gmj24MKidFTaKMDFDE6gTG7Wft6gBN+HH9tXbu7rH/1JT79o= =ecIv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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For dgilmore
by Janez Nemanič 21 Jan '14

21 Jan '14

Hi, here is a patch for ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3632. Dgilmore could you have a look at it? Let me know if something is wrong? diff --git a/utils/spam-o-matic b/utils/spam-o-matic index ba9e059..53c7b32 100755 --- a/utils/spam-o-matic +++ b/utils/spam-o-matic @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ from optparse import OptionParser from yum.constants import * from yum.misc import getCacheDir from collections import defaultdict +from email.mime.text import MIMEText # HAAACK import imp @@ -168,11 +169,19 @@ Subject: Broken dependencies: %s %s """ % (fromaddr, guilty, string.join(conspirators,','), pkgname, data) + + email = MIMEText(msg) + email['Precedence'] = 'bulk' + email['Auto-Submitted'] = 'auto-generated' + email['Subject'] = 'Broken dependencies' + email['From'] = fromaddr + email['To'] = guilty + email['Cc'] = ','.join(conspirators) if sendmail: try: server = smtplib.SMTP('localhost') server.set_debuglevel(1) - server.sendmail(fromaddr, toaddrs, msg) + server.sendmail(fromaddr, toaddrs, email.as_string()) except: print 'sending mail failed' -- Janez Nemanic Lep pozdrav Best regards

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Mario Cavero
by Mario Cavero 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Hello! My name is Mario, from Barcelona (Spain). Currently studying Computer Engineering. I've been using Linux OSes for 3 years; two months ago switched to Fedora. You'll find me at IRC as mariocav. I've joined the websites and infrastructure mail lists; actually I don't think I can contribute so much, as my experience is very limited; "sysadmin" of a CentOS server that offer web-related services: dns/mail/http/other-basic-stuff. Some experience in web development: html/css/js/php, and C/C++ applications. I'll keep around here and the wikis and hopefully will start helping with easy fixes soon. So little things to offer, so many things to learn... Bye! :)

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QA Client Network Isolation and FAS Groups
by Tim Flink 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

One of the things that QA is focusing on ATM is getting better automation support for Fedora. We're currently doing this in two ways (that will eventually combine): - taskotron (replacing autoqa) - beaker (different type of system - used by Red Hat QE, who is interested in running some of their tests upstream in Fedora) Before we start granting access to the systems to Fedora contributors, we want to a) make the process relatively easy and b) isolate the client machines so that if something goes wrong or a bad actor gains access to them, any potential problems can be limited. To do this, I'd like to propose one change and ask for input on another. The first change is with FAS groups and shell access. To the best of my knowledge, in order to ssh into the bastion hosts, a user needs to be a member of the sysadmin group. While this works well for sysadmin people, I'm not sure I see a benefit of sending all sysadmin email to folks who are just looking to debug beaker or taskotron clients. I'd like to propose the creation of a new FAS shell group for qa automation and separate groups for beaker users, beaker admins, taskotron users and taskotron admins (qa-automation, beaker, beaker-admin, taskotron, taskotron-admin). The qa-automation group wouldn't need access to bastion01, just whichever bastion host has access to the automation clients (bastion-comm01 for now). The other groups would be kind of like the relationship between the various sysadmin FAS groups and the base sysadmin group (ie, sysadmin access for all members, sysadmin-dns, sysadmin-qa etc. for farther access). Does this seem reasonable and do-able? If so, I'd like to get the FAS group stuff done in the relatively near future - not "drop everything and do it now" but ideally in the next couple of weeks if possible. For network isolation, I don't pretend to be an expert on networking so I'll describe the functionality that we're looking for and what I think might work for a solution, but I'll defer to the expertise here on whether it's a good idea or not :) The beaker and taskotron clients will need network access to several Fedora systems in order to work. Taskotron Clients: - Taskotron buildmaster - bodhi, koji, repos, dist-git, task-git (part of taskotron, not yet created), resultsdb (also part of taskotron) Beaker Clients: - Beaker server and lab controller (same system for now) - repos, maybe grabbing packages from koji/bodhi I put together a quick diagram with the various network connections: http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/taskotron/client-network-connections.png From a few previous conversations, I think that a private network for the clients could provide the isolation that we're looking for. As far as getting network access to the systems needed to function, I figured that the beaker server and taskotron master would have network interfaces on this private network and a gateway could be used to restrict outgoing traffic to only the resources required. All of the clients would be hosted on the qa virthosts, which are currently in the same rack. I was thinking that it would be possible to use one of the network interfaces in these virthosts to create this private network (assuming that the network switch capacity is available) but I'm definitely open to other ideas. Does this idea for network access and isolation seem reasonable and do-able? I figure that the network isolation/access part will require more discussion and time for implementation after a decision is reached. Our systems will work fine with the current network configuration but I wanted to get this part of the conversation started so that the implementation could happen before we get too far with automation development. Thanks, Tim

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Contributing to Fedora on Websites and Infrastructure projects
by Nitin Agarwal 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Hi, Here, its Nitin Agarwal, Software Developer and Programmer. I am currently pursuing Computer Science and Engineering at International Institute of Information Technology, INDIA. I would like to contribute to Fedora on the Websites and Infrastructure Projects. My interests lies in Programming, Web Development, System Administration, Linux Operating System and working with Open Source Organisations. I code in GNU C/C++, Python, JavaScript and also familiar with many Content Management Systems and Web Applications Development tools. I would like to work on the ongoing Websites and Infratstructure project works of Fedora and carry on with the project through Gsoc 2014 and afterwards, become a regular contributor to Fedora. One can see my username as Fedora over here : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nitin3006 Github : *https://github.com/NitinAgarwal <https://github.com/NitinAgarwal>* IRC : nitinagarwal3006 -- *Nitin Agarwal* Department of Computer Science and Engineering International Institute of Information Technology Gachibowli, Hyderabad 500 032 Andhra Pradesh, India Phone : +91-9573572831 Website : www.nitinagarwal.in Github : *https://github.com/NitinAgarwal <https://github.com/NitinAgarwal>*IRC : nitinagarwal3006 Skype : nitinagarwal3006

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state of the askbot
by Kevin Fenzi 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Greetings. I thought I would write up an email where we stand with ask.fedoraproject.org and things we need to get done and things I would like to see. ;) Staging: - Thanks to anshprat and echevemaster we got a askbot-0.7.49 rpm put together. - We got our old staging all working with it. - However, being the paranoid sort and seeing that we had a bunch of people poking at it locally and doing all kinds of things to it, I decided to do a clean staging instance to make sure it would work as expected. - I migrated ask01.stg over to ansible and destroyed the old instance and made a new one with 0.7.49 and the config/etc we had in puppet. - I had to tweak some more things to get it up and going. - It's now up, but it tracebacks in trying to add new questions (at least). - I didn't do anything to the database, it's the same one we were using for staging before. So, what we need here is to figure out whats wrong with it now and get it working, or possibly wipe the db and put the production one over there (downside there is that it might send emails, which would confuse users, so we need to make sure that doesn't happen if we go that route). Once we have it all working. I will wipe and make a fresh instance of it. I want it to come up working from whats in ansible before we touch production. Production / misc: - feedback link is broken, so people send feedback to admin(a)fedoraproject.org. This is not great as I don't have time/know about specific things some people ask.. Where should we point these? sysadmin-ask-members(a)fedoraproject.org? - I have no idea who all is still active in wanting to work on askbot. We should figure that out. Perhaps we could cull the sysadmin-ask group down to those people who are still around and are willing to work on it? - Fedora theme: Ryan was working on that a whlile back. It would sure be nice to get something out there, even if it's not perfect. - It would also be nice to have some way to communicate/collaborate with moderators/admins. Sometimes people ask for karma changes or voting changes or whatever, and it would be nice to have a place to discuss that. I guess meta on the site itself might work, but we should decide. - multilang support. The new 0.7.49 has multilang support, but it wasn't working last we tried it. We should really try and get this working. There are already communities with their own ask instances that could be using the main Fedora one. ;) - The rawhide/Fedora version is still on 0.7.48. There's at least one issue with python-celery and django-celery needing to sync up, but it still needs someone interested in watching that and updating it and testing it, etc. We should make sure it works in Fedora. :) - Theres 8 open ask infrastructure tickets: #3654 Ask Fedora uses flags to show a user's location (needs working with upstream to enable disabling them) #4012 ask.fedoraproject.org 'give feedback' broken #3818 Enable multilingual support in ask ( hopefully fixed with upgrade ) #3840 [HOTFIX] Adding upstream fix to post-office to re-enable html mailing (needs someone to make sure this went upstream, if it's in 0.7.49, etc) #3884 Apply Fedora theme to Ask Fedora #3528 Banner for new user points to FAQ but doesn't provide link (needs the theme to exist) #3919 Disable identi.ca login #3675 Unable to re-tag posts on Ask Fedora (needs working with upstream/making hotfixes) kevin

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Lexi Farar
by af 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Hello, My IRC handle is: kawaii-50 I am an Information Assurance Engineer with a background in systems administration and general technical support. In my daily work I make sure the systems, Red Hat Enterprise, CentOS, Solaris and various flavors of Windows are secure and that appropriate security controls are in place. I do manual audits for both Linux and Windows, but am still a beginner with Linux. So, I would like to start out by helping maintain the Linux servers and hopefully put my security knowledge to work as well. I look forward to joining the team and want to be a hands-on contributor to the project. Thanks. Lexi

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Re: state of the askbot
by Ankur Sinha 19 Jan '14

19 Jan '14

On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 10:28 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > So, after the migration I guess you could go in and do these? > Do we have a list or just want to do them as we see them? We don't have a list yet. The first set of tags to get rid of would be all that are prefixed by hashes. I guess we could do this manually once a few weeks? -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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December status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices
by Kevin Fenzi 18 Jan '14

18 Jan '14

Greetings. You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group in the fedora account system. When you reply, please include your fedora account system login. Additionally, this month, I am CC'ing the infrastructure list. If you would like to send your feedback there as well everyone can see and comment on it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for you. I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful. 0. Whats your fedora account system login? 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to? 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute to more? 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice 'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road? 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help you do any of the above? 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved? Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area? 7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them helpful or interesting? 8. What was the very first computer you ever used? Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc. Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the group up to date with active folks). Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback! kevin

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Mathieu Bridon
by Mathieu Bridon 17 Jan '14

17 Jan '14

So, it appears I never really formally joined the group. I think I met most of you at Flock Charleston, and I've been involved in Fedora for a few years now (got my froglet badge!). But the /Infrastructure/GettingStarted page says I really should do this, so here it comes! :P * Your IRC handle (What's this?) That's easy, it's the same as my FAS account: bochecha ## What skills you have to offer and which you would like to learn At $dayjob [1], I'm the (yes, **the**) : * Python developer * {,proven}packager * sysadmin-{build,cvs,devel,releng}: I maintain our internal dist-git/lookasidecache/koji/bodhi/repos infrastructure, I wrote a tool based on pyrpkg to interact with it,... [2] * releng: I work on the tools to compose new releases of our OS [3] So I guess these are the areas where I can help. :) ## What you would like to work on and quite possibly which outstanding issues you would like to help resolve I've been hacking on Bodhi (1 and 2) for some time now, both upstream and downstream (we have a pretty heavily patched bodhi to adapt it to our needs [4]). Recently, after Dennis mentioned it was something he'd like to see happen, I started working on running mash as a Koji plugin. [5] More generally, I'm interested in working on our build and release stuff. [1] https://www.network-box.com/ [2] Here's a bunch of the stuff I've written / patched as part of that work: https://gitorious.org/bochecha-dayjob/ [3] We don't build Anaconda-based ISOs, just firmware images to be dd-ed directly on the disks of the machines we deploy. [4] It's almost a fork, given how much stuff is hard-coded in Bodhi 1 that we have to change: https://gitorious.org/bochecha-dayjob/bodhi [5] I'm hopeful we can start using this soon, both in Fedora and at work: https://github.com/bochecha/koji-mash ---------- One thing I feel worth mentioning: I live in Hong Kong (for now), so the timezone difference makes it pretty much impossible for me to attend IRC meetings. (and generally makes it harder to communicate synchronously). Fortunately, there is some overlap (usually before the US goes to sleep, and soon after Europe awakes). :-) Cheers, -- Mathieu

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Plan for tomorrow's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-01-16)
by Kevin Fenzi 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

The infrastructure team will be having it's weekly meeting tomorrow, 2014-01-16 at 19:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the freenode network. Suggested topics: #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices would like to ask general questions, they can do so in this part of the meeting. Don't be shy! #topic Applications status / discussion Check in on status of our applications: pkgdb, fas, bodhi, koji, community, voting, tagger, packager, dpsearch, etc. If there's new releases, bugs we need to work around or things to note. #topic Sysadmin status / discussion Here we talk about sysadmin related happenings from the previous week, or things that are upcoming. #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ #topic Open Floor Submit your agenda items, as tickets in the trac instance and send a note replying to this thread. More info here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings#Meetings Thanks kevin

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Jonathan Larsen
by Jonathan Larsen 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

- Trying this again as I accidentally sent it with no name last time. - My IRC handle is jlar or j-lar. - I have experience with system administration, mostly with Debian variants and CentOS, and config management with puppet and cfengine. I've been working in healthcare for the last 3 years and I want to get my linux skills back up to par, and keep my hands dirty. I'm willing to help with anything I can and I'm hoping to learn whatever is thrown my way. I can give 4 hours a week. - I'd like to work on monitoring and config management, but really anything that I can contribute to I'm willing to do. I'm looking forward to being a part of this community!

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Hello World!
by Sean O'Reilly 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hi Infra, My name is Sean O'Reilly and I would like to get involved and put something back. I am an RHCE currently working as an Infrastructure Engineer in the travel industry. I have been working with linux for more than 15 years mostly with Red Hat and it's derivatives but, have supported most other flavours at one time or another. I can spare 6 - 8 hours per week and look forward to getting to know you all. Regards Sean

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2014 dreaming
by Kevin Fenzi 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Greetings. I meant to send this out sooner, but with the Fedora 20 release things have been crazy. :) Now that we are nearing the end of 2013, I think it might be a nice time to think ahead to next year. What would you love to see happen? What would you like to work on making happen? (even if it's not practical resource wise or logistically) Here's a list of some of mine: * 0 downtime upgrades. By this I mean we can update and reboot all our servers (probibly in some specific order with specific actions between) and not have to schedule any downtime or notify users anything is going on. This means at least that we have db replication/failover working and 2 of everything. * Migration to ansible fully done, with all hosts moved over and rebuilt and working. * Migration to RHEL7. :) * Ticket queue down to a very small set. When I first started it was gigantic, then I closed/fixed/redirected a lot of the ticket and we started going down in number, but over the last year or so we have hovered between 140-150. * Migration to hyperkitty/mailman3 complete with all lists moved. * All hosts selinux enforcing. :) * No "app" servers left. All applications split out to their own (at least pair) of instances. * Logging from every app/server goes to a known place and we process them all looking for problems. I'll probibly think of some more, will send them to this thread when I do. So how about you? Any big dreams for 2014? Hopefully we can make at least some of them real. kevin

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction jlar
by Jonathan Larsen 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

- My IRC handle is jlar or j-lar. - I have experience with system administration, mostly with Debian variants and CentOS, and config management with puppet and cfengine. I've been working in healthcare for the last 3 years and I want to get my linux skills back up to par, and keep my hands dirty. I'm willing to help with anything I can and I'm hoping to learn whatever is thrown my way. I can give 4 hours a week. - I'd like to work on monitoring and config management, but really anything that I can contribute to I'm willing to do. I'm looking forward to being a part of this community! -- A cloud of mystical dust appears, shrouding Jon in its magic. You roll a four. The cloud dissipates and Jon is gone.

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Working on fedora-infrastructure ticket #130
by Jacob Clark 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hi all, I'd like to raise awareness that I am working on the following ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/130 After discussion on the fedora-apps IRC I have been recommended to create a prototype and send it over to both design-team and infrastructure. I will be creating the menu bar in vanilla CSS and HTML without any framework to start with, as it was made clear during the IRC discussion that there are some politics on which is favourable. Of-course as this is also Fedora wise, creating a unanimous addition is important. I will follow this email up shortly with the prototype, however could I receive any information, suggestions and or ideas on this ticket. Many thanks Jacob Clark.

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Jacob Clark
by Jacob Clark 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hello, My name is Jacob Clark and I'm excited to get involved contributing to the Infrastructure of Fedora! I'm from the United Kingdom (GMT+ London time). I currently work for a large retail company managing their web projects and infrastructure. I have a solid understanding of emerging software development techniques, client side frameworks, server side frameworks, relational/non-relational database systems, continuous integration, testing, version control & sysadmin unix/linux. I'm competent in several programming languages, at both high level and low level machine development, these languages include: Assembly (NASM), C (GCC), Objective-C, Python, PHP, Pascal, JavaScript and Ruby. I'm experienced with Unix(-like) systems, DevOps platforms (Puppet, Chef), Continuous Integration (Jenkins, Hudson), Firewalls (IPTables), HTTP Servers (Nginx, Apache, Varnish) and various other platform reliability tools. I'm joining because I believe contributing to an open source project such as Fedora is not only rewarding, but also a fantastic way to gain experience in working with a large scale collaborative project. I'm able to put in a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 10 hours per week on Fedora. My IRC handle is: imjacobclark I'd be very interested in getting started straight away tackling bugs, and I would like to pick up the following to get started with: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/130 I'm looking forward to getting started and heavily involved in the Fedora project. Many thanks Jacob Clark.

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Introduction
by Joerg Stephan 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Good morning to the list, My name is Jörg Stephan, i am an 34 years old system administrator from germany. I basically work on maintaining some hundreds of debian/ubuntu based servers and a handful of centos machines. I would like to participate/contribute to the infrastructure team. Besides my administrator work i am also responsible for IT security questions. I have some advanced knowledge in topics like basic administration (webservers, databases, fileserver, etc) monitoring with nagios and zabbix and configuration via puppet. Please find some (maybe out dated) infos at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johe -- Joerg Stephan

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Hello World! (intro)
by Elizabeta S⌀resen 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hello infra! My name is Elizabeta and I'd like to contribute! I'm now a student at RMIT in Melbourne, however for the past 5 years I've been a sysadmin working in managed hosting and vfx. I'm a python developer, config management (puppet, ansible) and fairly confident dba. I'd like to learn more about fedora (Primarily supported debian) and eventually get into kernel dev. I look forward to helping out in anyway I can, I can provide about 12 hours a week until March then I'd drop down to 6 as uni starts. Thanks, Elizabeta

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introducing myself
by Seenu Reddy 10 Jan '14

10 Jan '14

hi Fedora, i am newbie to Linux i have two years experience in c c++ and driver development in windows OS. I have worked on PCI ,USB drivers ,and developed Single Document, Multiple Document Interface applications for simulating data logger cards . I have started working on Linux and currently developing an application using qt designer. I am very interested in Operating System designing and development about which i know just a little. I want to learn this through Linux . I can spend minimum 1 hour per day and more than 3 hours on weekends. i am interested in Fedora because Fedora has vast community to help starters and i just like it to learn through contributing . so what are the groups i should join ? Please suggest me some groups where i can use my existing skills ,so that i can get familiar with things happening here. so please consider my request and reply me any suggestions . Thank you, -- cnu <seenureddy42(a)gmail.com>

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ansible variable fix commit
by Kevin Fenzi 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Thanks to janeznemanic, I have a commit ready for the ansible repo that should replace all the old $foo and ${foo} variables with new style ansible/jinja2 {{ foo }} style. ;) Anyone around to +1 it? :) It's rather large, so it's in /tmp/ansible-variables.patch on lockbox01. kevin

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state of the infra ansible, cron job and roadmap
by Kevin Fenzi 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Greetings. So, over the holiday break I did some massive cleanup on our ansible repo. I took an initial patch from janeznemanic to fix old syntax and went from there. I got all the depreciated syntax fixed (there might be some small amount of stray ones). I also moved accelerate into global.yml, so it should apply to all playbooks. The needed package and firewall port should be set in the kickstarts now. Next I took a simple script to run --check --diff on each host and group playbook and got it up and running. It takes about an hour to run against our host/group playbooks when it's run one at a time. We could just fire them all off but that might swamp lockbox01. Ideally, what I would like to see from a run of this script is all hosts/groups reachable and 0 items changed. This is the state we should strive for. ;) * The following hosts are unreachable: 209.132.184.158 (see jenkins note below) 209.132.184.209 (see jenkins note below) arm03-packager01.arm.fedoraproject.org (will fix) arm03-packager02.arm.fedoraproject.org (will fix) arm03-qa01.arm.fedoraproject.org (will fix) buildvm-27.phx2.fedoraproject.org (test buildvm, expected down) jenkins-cloud jenkins-slaves (these look to need a bit of tweaking) lists-dev.cloud.fedoraproject.org (is up, but / is 100% full) mailman01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org releng01.phx2.fedoraproject.org (is down since we don't have a branched right now) * The following hosts have changed > 0: 209.132.184.144 209.132.184.153 209.132.184.157 arm03-qa00.arm.fedoraproject.org arm03-qa02.arm.fedoraproject.org arm03-qa03.arm.fedoraproject.org arm03-releng00.arm.fedoraproject.org arm03-releng01.arm.fedoraproject.org arm03-releng02.arm.fedoraproject.org arm03-releng03.arm.fedoraproject.org backup03.phx2.fedoraproject.org beaker01.qa.fedoraproject.org bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org bkernel02.phx2.fedoraproject.org buildvm-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org buildvmhost-10.phx2.fedoraproject.org buildvmhost-11.phx2.fedoraproject.org buildvmhost-12.phx2.fedoraproject.org bvirthost07.phx2.fedoraproject.org copr-be-dev.cloud.fedoraproject.org copr-fe-dev.cloud.fedoraproject.org db02.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org docs-backend01.phx2.fedoraproject.org fedocal01.phx2.fedoraproject.org fedocal01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org fedocal02.phx2.fedoraproject.org gallery01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org kernel01.qa.fedoraproject.org kernel02.qa.fedoraproject.org keys01.fedoraproject.org mailman01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org notifs-backend01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org notifs-web01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org notifs-web02.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org nuancier01.phx2.fedoraproject.org nuancier01.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org nuancier02.phx2.fedoraproject.org nuancier02.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org releng02.phx2.fedoraproject.org taskotron-dev01.qa.fedoraproject.org virthost15.phx2.fedoraproject.org I'll work with others to get those all fixed up in the coming weeks. That said, how do we want to run our non manual ansible jobs? a) run a --check --diff once a day and yell about unreachable or changed>0 (I could commit this now) b) just run them once a day and yell about anything that changes. (I could commit this now) c) Trigger them on git commits. This would take work to figure out what was affected by the commit, or just fire off a run of everything. d) setup some file somewhere that can be created by sysadmin group and a cron job picks it up and runs the next time it runs. This would allow someone to commit something, schedule a run and give a bit of time for someone to notice a problem with it before it does. Thoughts? As far as roadmap for migration: I'm going to try and work on splitting out everything that is still on app* servers to their own ansible instances. Once the app servers are fully migrated we can tackle proxy*, then virthosts, then various singletons. Then we can see where we are, and work a final push to get everything left moved over. ;) kevin

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FedoraHosted down?
by Frank Murphy 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Not seeing anything on: http://status.fedoraproject.org/ Trac detected an internal error: IOError: Couldn't find an available endpoint for name 'trac.hosted03' -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com

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Plan for tomorrow's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-01-09)
by Kevin Fenzi 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

The infrastructure team will be having it's weekly meeting tomorrow, 2014-01-09 at 19:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the freenode network. Suggested topics: #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices would like to ask general questions, they can do so in this part of the meeting. Don't be shy! #topic Applications status / discussion Check in on status of our applications: pkgdb, fas, bodhi, koji, community, voting, tagger, packager, dpsearch, etc. If there's new releases, bugs we need to work around or things to note. #topic Sysadmin status / discussion Here we talk about sysadmin related happenings from the previous week, or things that are upcoming. #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ #topic 2014 dreaming Some discussion about what we want to get done in 2014. :) #topic Open Floor Submit your agenda items, as tickets in the trac instance and send a note replying to this thread. More info here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings#Meetings Thanks kevin

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Fedora koji upgrade -- features and schedule
by Matthew Miller 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

I'm not sure if this is more appropriate for this list or for RelEng, but I figure the RelEng folks read this too, so I'd start here. The newer release of upstream Koji has the feature where images can be generated with Anaconda rather than appliance-creator (through Oz via ImageFactory). Since appliance-creator is not really maintained upstream (excepting Dennis's hacking to keep it working), this is pretty important. And since it will require the cloud kickstart (and anything else that wants to use it) to be updated, the longer we have to get the kinks out, the better. On top of this, upstream ImageFactory is gaining support for generating Docker images, and we're getting a lot of push for making these official, or at least more official than they are now, and generated-in-koji would be a great start. That code should be in the upstreams (and the Fedora packages) soon, but isn't yet. Since I assume we don't want to do the upgrade more times than necessary, this is adds a wrinkle to the timing. Are there existing plans for upgrading koji? What all is needed to make this happen? Thanks! -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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torrent site ipv6 support question
by Christopher Meng 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

Hi, Does torrent.fedoraprojecy.org support ipv6? One of my friends said that he couldn't connect to tracker: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org:6969/announce As it's in "offline" status. Thanks.

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January status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices
by Kevin Fenzi 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Greetings. You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the infrastructure list). When you reply, please include your fedora account system login. Additionally, this month, I am CC'ing the infrastructure list. If you would like to send your feedback there as well everyone can see and comment on it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for you. I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful. 0. Whats your fedora account system login? 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to? 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute to more? 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice 'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road? 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help you do any of the above? 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved? Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area? 7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them helpful or interesting? 8. What are you most looking forward to in the world of computing for 2014? Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc. Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the group up to date with active folks). Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback! kevin

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Meeting Agenda Item: Introduction Graham Williamson
by Graham Williamson 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Hello, My name is Graham Williamson and my IRC nick is willo. I'm currently working as a cyber security consultant, in order to support my geek addiction. Accordingly, I've got pretty broad coverage of a lot of areas. I'd say that, I'm very strong on networking, not just on the OS, but also on physical (and virtual) network infrastructure. I've got significant experience on Cisco technologies (LAN through to carrier technologies) and some experience on Avaya/Nortel equipment. For the last 3 years, system administration has been a big part of my job description, all of which has been on RHEL and CentOS servers. This has covered a range of services from VoIP, billing and infrastructure/security monitoring systems through to Satellite, IPA and KVM/LXC/Xen virtualization platforms. I've had a look at the various FIG's and I think I'd be a fit for either sysadmin-build, sysadmin-hosted or sysadmin-tools. I'm open to other suggestions, if you think I might be a good fit somewhere else or if these teams have sufficient members, and other areas are lacking. I'm always keen to learn new and different things. sysadmin-noc would definitely be a possibility, except that I can't have a pager at work, and I've got 3 kids, so I've don't have any goods left to sell (they're all either broken, dribbled on or covered in food and buried in the sandpit). :) I've got experience to varying degrees in the majority of the "required skills" areas. As for outstanding issues, this one seems right up my alley, https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/833, also this one (if it's still valid) https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/466 My introduction to Linux was Fedora Core 2 and I was seduced by Ubuntu for a while, but now I'm back on Fedora and I'm very seen to contribute. Cheers, Willo

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Git-python patch for working with GPG signed commits
by Ankur Sinha 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Hi, A few months ago, we noticed that the current git-python version did not work with GPG signed commits[1]. Upstream's[2] been dead for almost 8 months now. There is however a pull request that adds support for GPG signed commits[3]. Since upstream is dead, and the pull request will not be accepted until someone steps up to revive the project, should I file a bug and request the Fedora maintainer to carry the patch? Would that be preferred over infra carrying a hotfix? I think it'll be good to request package maintainers to GPG sign their commits[4]. [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/git-python/Ralph $20Bean/git-python/hFfA9gXkz6s/b9VrRDaypkMJ [2] https://github.com/gitpython-developers/GitPython [3] https://github.com/gitpython-developers/GitPython/pulls [4] http://mikegerwitz.com/papers/git-horror-story.html -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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--major option in lvchange man page
by emmanuel segura 05 Jan '14

05 Jan '14

Hello everyone, Maybe this is the wrong place for ask, but i saw the --major lvchange option in the man page of fedora 18 and fedora 19 isn't there.

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Admin of Copr
by Miroslav Suchý 02 Jan '14

02 Jan '14

We had recently first legal issue on Copr and I had to remove one project. And because of Christmas it took me 2 days to notice it. Currently there are just two admins of Copr. It would be nice if there can be more admins. Admin can then access: http://copr.fedoraproject.org/admin/ And delete projects where legal flag has been raised. If somebody from infra want to become admin, please reply to this email. Or if you have access to Copr machine (cloud-admin should have) you can run: first log in copr.fedoraproject.org webUI, then cd /usr/share/copr/coprs_frontend/ ./manage.py alter_user --admin your_fas_login Mirek

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