Welcome to the project Pawel!

I saw the original announcement linked after I posted my response and it helpsfill in some blanks. I'm 100% the wrong person to talk aesthetics and design but I know that means a lot to people and I understand why it's a driving factor. The approach Ryan and Rick took around the last redesign was an architectural base that was sustainable and extensible. That should still be considered for whatever work you want to undertake and will shortcut your approach by months and allow you focus on the UI/UX design rather than the wiring. For context, the guys spent 40+ hours a week on this for several months. That's a non trivial amount of Engineering as you can appreciate. You can add a lot more time to that investment when volunteer context switching in and out occurs, our guys had the benefit of continuing on this project full time.

I'm absolutely no welded to the code base or the approach the guys took, I know from our debriefs the quality that it brought and I know tech changes with fashions and fads. This mail is more to raise awareness that you might have a very stable base to work with that was somehow overlooked and from there you could redecorate the house as you see fit.

Best wishes,
Leigh

On Wed 30 Jun 2021, 20:18 Pawel Zelawski, <pawel@pzelawski.xyz> wrote:
Hi Leigh,
everything started from this post https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/its-time-to-update-the-main-fedora-website/30154 written by Matthew. I don't know the history of the project as I joined a couple of months ago however considering what you said maybe we should validate this with Matthew. What do you think?


Pawel


On 21/06/29 07:18, Leigh Griffin wrote:
> I'm curious as to why a full revamp from scratch is being considered. Can
> you help me understand the requirements and needs? I have read the wiki
> link but it's not telling me anything and it's missing the fact that the
> CPE team spent several months with full time engineers in mid 2019 doing a
> from scratch overhaul of the main site with extensibility and future
> proofing in mind. While CPE have no remit over websites anymore, I'm more
> questioning the need to change once again and incur a lot of volunteer
> hours to do so.
>
> Leigh
>
> On Mon 28 Jun 2021, 20:34 Pawel Zelawski, <pawel@pzelawski.xyz> wrote:
>
> > Hi Infrastructure team,
> > it's just a kindly reminder as I didn't get a feedback from you.
> > I would really appreciate if you can nominate one person, if this is not
> > possible because of any reason please let me know as well.
> >
> >
> > Pawel
> >
> >
> > On 21/06/21 08:43, Pawel Zelawski wrote:
> > > Dear team,
> > > we decided it's time to rethink our needs and redesign Fedora main
> > website from scratch.
> > > I would like to encourage your team to take a part in this initiative
> > and work on this together as we need to make sure that we have everybody on
> > board and all needs are taken into consideration.
> > >
> > > Based on initial input I gather from Fedora forum and meeting with
> > Matthew I prepared one page with summary of what we are going to do and
> > it's available here
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Fedora_Website_Revamp
> > > It's possible I'll move it to other place in the future but for now it
> > will be our workspace.
> > >
> > > As a short term strategy I would like you to choose one representative
> > from your team for upcoming kick-off meeting with other stakeholders and
> > send me directly details like name, Feroda ID and e-mail address. It will
> > be much easier for me to contact chosen person having this. Please try to
> > do this by 30th June. I'm aware holiday period started and probably not
> > everyone will be available but let's try to do our best and push forward
> > this exciting initiative :)
> > > When I have all participants gathered I'll try to find common slot to
> > organize session for us. Agenda will be included in invitation.
> > > Main goal of this kick-off will be to discuss known facts, go through
> > goals, assumptions and requirements and also plan next steps for next
> > couple of weeks.
> > > I'll propose long term strategy, approach and wider plan after meeting
> > with all of you.
> > >
> > > Please read in advance
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Fedora_Website_Revamp and if you
> > already have some requests, suggestion please send it to your
> > representative and then each person can send it to me before kick-off.
> > Taking into consideration we will have huge amount of stakeholders I don't
> > see other way to work on this than having one person from each team, I hope
> > you understand.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to work with all of you.
> > > Stay safe!
> > >
> > >
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