============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-03-15) ============================================

Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-15/infrastructure.20... .

Meeting summary --------------- * Robot Roll Call (nirik, 19:00:01)

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:03:27) * sysadmin folks should file any easyfix tickets they can think of we need fixed (nirik, 19:09:42)

* two factor auth status (nirik, 19:11:45) * ACTION: wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. (nirik, 19:12:56) * then we can move to testing deployment. (nirik, 19:13:03)

* Staging re-work status (nirik, 19:13:50) * proposal for workflow in post staging branch life on list. Please comment. (nirik, 19:14:58)

* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:16:48)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-03-27 - drop inactive maintainers from packages. (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2011-04-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:19:16) * 2012-04-24 to 2012-05-08 - F17 Final Freeze. (nirik, 19:19:18) * 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:19:20) * 2012-05-08 - F17 release (nirik, 19:19:22)

* Tickets from Ages past (nirik, 19:23:23) * AGREED: will close ticket 1882. (nirik, 19:27:51)

* Open Floor (nirik, 19:36:28)

Meeting ended at 19:41:07 UTC.

Action Items ------------ * wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us.

Action Items, by person ----------------------- * wolfkit * wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none)

People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (104) * pingou (19) * marcelk1985 (15) * skvidal (13) * wolfkit (10) * CodeBlock (8) * LinuxCode (7) * zodbot (6) * smooge (4) * kwame (4) * dgilmore (4) * davevz (1) * ianweller (1) * abadger1999 (0) * lmacken (0) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * Codeblock (0) -- 19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-03-15) 19:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 15 19:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge 19:00:09 <nirik> who all is around for infra meeting? 19:00:25 * skvidal is here 19:00:33 * skvidal is also on the phone so I may be a bit slow in replying 19:00:38 <marcelk1985> hi! i am here 19:00:49 <marcelk1985> Very excited 19:01:04 * kwame in da room 19:01:14 <smooge> here 19:01:51 * pingou 19:02:09 <CodeBlock> here 19:02:24 * dgilmore waves 19:02:38 <nirik> welcome everyone. 19:03:00 <wolfkit> here :) 19:03:13 <nirik> lets go ahead and dive in... 19:03:27 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:03:29 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices 19:03:29 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so here. 19:04:16 <nirik> anyone new want to give a quick bio/intro? any apprentice questions? 19:04:18 <marcelk1985> I am definitely new here. Abbreviated I do a lot of networking/network security and linux. Hoping to be useful for the Fedora Project 19:04:26 <nirik> welcome marcelk1985 19:04:49 <wolfkit> I'm new here too. I've been poking around different parts of Fedora, am interested in docs and infra 19:05:06 <marcelk1985> oh and I do a lot of Nagios :-) 19:05:25 <nirik> marcelk1985: you might be able to look at ticket 3191 and give some input... mangas and ctria were working on it too, and I think we have a plan, but if you know nagios well you might have a better suggestion. 19:05:37 <wolfkit> been using Fedora since fc3, so have lots of admin experience with it, hoping maybe I can contribute back to it :D 19:05:38 <nirik> wolfkit: welcome. 19:05:57 <nirik> wolfkit: are you more interested in sysadmin stuff? or application development? 19:06:08 <skvidal> nirik: he's offered to help me with pam_url 19:06:09 <skvidal> :) 19:06:19 <nirik> oh, nice. :) 19:06:25 <nirik> we def want to clean that up... 19:06:26 <wolfkit> well I'm a developer by trade, so app dev stuff that relates to sysadmin is probably my area 19:06:34 <CodeBlock> And I know him outside of Fedora, happy to sponsor him into apprentice 19:06:47 <nirik> great. 19:07:06 <nirik> welcome again, and do chime in on #fedora-admin/#fedora-noc/#fedora-apps with any questions or ideas... 19:07:07 <dgilmore> wolfkit: i have a new webapp i want to get developed for release engineering tasks 19:07:15 <davevz> I introduced myself briefly last week in #fedora-admin. I've done quite a bit of general admin / puppet stuff. Particularly interested in security work but anything will do 19:07:29 <wolfkit> dgilmore: cool! perhaps we can chat about it after the meeting 19:07:42 <kwame> Hi, my name is Dan Bahena (aka Kwame), just joined to give back to the community from which I've received so much, I'm currently working as a L3 Linux Engineer, I'm from México http://kwame.informatux.net my blog :-) I've been a linux user since ... I guess mid 90's :-) 19:07:45 <dgilmore> wolfkit: sure drop into #fedora-releng and we can talk 19:08:09 <nirik> excellent. Lots of folks. ;) 19:08:18 <marcelk1985> hi kwame 19:08:23 <kwame> marcelk1985: hey 19:08:42 <nirik> As a side note for existing sysadmin folks: if you can think of small tasks for apprentices/easyfix tasks, please do file them and mark them... we need more to choose from I think... 19:08:57 <marcelk1985> i think so too ;) 19:09:00 <nirik> updating docs, checking scripts, doing things we just never get around to that are easy are all good to mark for that. 19:09:42 <nirik> #info sysadmin folks should file any easyfix tickets they can think of we need fixed 19:09:52 <marcelk1985> please do! 19:10:11 <pingou> dgilmore: #fedora-apps ? 19:10:23 <nirik> new folks do see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you setup in the fi-apprentice group or point you to application easyfix stuff to work on. 19:10:42 * ianweller here 19:10:45 <kwame> nirik: cool 19:10:48 <dgilmore> pingou: not heard of that one 19:10:56 <marcelk1985> nirik: sure thing 19:10:57 <nirik> dgilmore: it's new. 19:11:02 <pingou> dgilmore: ah, few weeks old but already worth it ;) 19:11:02 <nirik> for infra applications. 19:11:26 <nirik> ok, moving along then unless anything else on this. 19:11:45 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status 19:12:02 <nirik> I guess wolfkit is going to help us clean up pam_url? 19:12:07 <nirik> and then we can move forward? 19:12:22 <wolfkit> I would like to help clean up pam_url, yes 19:12:32 <skvidal> wolfkit: I'll send you a link to the last tarball I had 19:12:42 <nirik> great. Please do. 19:12:56 <nirik> #action wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. 19:13:03 <nirik> #info then we can move to testing deployment. 19:13:10 <nirik> anything else on 2 factor? 19:13:36 <skvidal> not at the moment 19:13:36 <nirik> moving on then... 19:13:50 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status 19:13:57 <nirik> so, I worked on this this week 19:14:06 <nirik> I sent out a proposal to the list... 19:14:23 <nirik> I'd like to wait to hear from some of our developers that are our at pycon this week before we implement 19:14:44 <nirik> Hopefully they will be ok with my plan and we can quash our staging branch soon. 19:14:56 <pingou> the current situation still makes use of the stagging branch, right ? 19:14:58 <nirik> #info proposal for workflow in post staging branch life on list. Please comment. 19:15:07 <nirik> pingou: yeah, currently it does. 19:15:11 <pingou> tx 19:15:28 <nirik> In the new setup, it will all be in master... and you can make a modules-staging/ copy of your module to test with on staging machines. 19:16:05 <nirik> and default there will not be a staging module (ie, master and stg are the same except for some small differences inside if $staging) 19:16:23 <nirik> ok, anything else on this? 19:16:48 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:16:59 <nirik> any news on our applications this week? 19:17:09 <nirik> note that most of our application folks are at pycon. ;) 19:17:11 <skvidal> :) 19:17:39 <pingou> some bug/rfe fixing in fas 19:17:52 <nirik> I managed to fix some rhel6 issues with some apps in the last few weeks. 19:17:53 * CodeBlock doesn't have much of an update on search... search-dev.fp.o is still up, people are free to comment on it... need to get back to working on that though. 19:17:58 <pingou> I'm working on the module for gather-easyfix 19:18:01 <nirik> I hope we are all ok now running on rhel6. 19:18:13 <nirik> CodeBlock: how's the crawler? 19:18:35 <CodeBlock> nirik: I think it is mostly done with docs/wiki, will add in some other sites soon 19:18:41 <nirik> ok. 19:19:00 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 19:19:14 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-03-27 - drop inactive maintainers from packages. 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2011-04-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. 19:19:16 <nirik> #info 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 19:19:18 <nirik> #info 2012-04-24 to 2012-05-08 - F17 Final Freeze. 19:19:20 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 19:19:22 <nirik> #info 2012-05-08 - F17 release 19:19:28 <nirik> any upcoming tasks people would like to schedule / note? 19:19:41 <nirik> I'll point out we are going into Beta freeze next week. 19:19:49 <pingou> - drop inactive maintainers from packages. -> if there gonna be a last email regarding the packages ? 19:19:54 <pingou> s/if/is/ 19:20:03 <nirik> so, if there are things you want to do before tuesday, please consider doing them. 19:20:28 <nirik> pingou: there would be... these are people that we nagged and nagged and don't change their ssh key... I'm not even sure how many are packagers. 19:20:46 <nirik> skvidal was going to nag some more via phone I think? 19:20:50 <pingou> good :) 19:21:30 <skvidal> nirik: I pingedat people I could find on irc 19:21:38 <skvidal> nirik: I haven't gotten anyone on the phone :) 19:21:48 <smooge> yeah beta freeze 19:21:52 <nirik> ok. Did it do any good? 19:22:04 <skvidal> nirik:not that Ican tell :) 19:22:19 <skvidal> nirik: lemme have one more week 19:22:33 <nirik> sure. 19:22:57 <nirik> ok, any other items to schedule/note? 19:23:23 <nirik> #topic Tickets from Ages past 19:23:39 <nirik> so, anyone like to note and discuss an old ticket? 19:23:44 * nirik has one... 19:23:56 <nirik> .ticket 1882 19:23:58 <zodbot> nirik: #1882 (FreeNode node) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1882 19:24:09 <nirik> we aren't planning on ever doing this are we? so, close? 19:24:49 <marcelk1985> well 19:25:11 <marcelk1985> are you asking if someone would/cozld host an ircd? 19:25:25 <marcelk1985> *could 19:25:29 <smooge> I don't think we could offer it with fedora resources 19:25:31 <skvidal> nirik: no, we aren't 19:25:46 <nirik> marcelk1985: the ticket is asking US to host a freenode node. Could we do it? sure. Do we want to? I don't think so. Does freenode need us to? I doubt it. 19:26:05 <CodeBlock> it'd be cool...probably not practical though. 19:26:24 <nirik> It kinda makes you a target too... for DOS, etc... which I don't think we want really. 19:26:27 * CodeBlock is fine with closing it 19:26:30 <wolfkit> freenode has been adding nodes like crazy lately, two a week, I don't think they really "need" it. it'd be great to get Fedora out there, but probably unnecessary 19:26:35 <nirik> also, it means you give root access to an external entity. ;) 19:26:50 <skvidal> nirik: I'm for closing it 19:27:04 * nirik would be happy to revisit if it turns out to be needed or desired. ;) 19:27:21 <nirik> wolfkit: yeah, seems much better than it was back when this ticket was made. 19:27:38 <marcelk1985> I suggest closing it. the security implications are too large if not done right, and the time need in order to do it right is considerable 19:27:51 <nirik> #agreed will close ticket 1882. 19:27:55 * pingou patched #605 19:28:00 <nirik> any other tickets from the past people want to bring up? 19:28:03 <wolfkit> plus, the ircd they use doesn't exactly play nice on cent/rhel (I know from experience chary isn't "happy" on it) 19:28:04 <nirik> .ticket 605 19:28:05 <zodbot> nirik: #605 (FAS2 entry for blog feed) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/605 19:28:07 <LinuxCode> wolfkit, they are adding nodes to combat a DDoS 19:28:54 <nirik> pingou: on that, I think we also would need to change planet scripts to pull from that right? unless it's just informational? 19:29:00 <nirik> and we would need to fix docs. 19:29:03 <pingou> although I allowed only 1 blog/user 19:29:17 <nirik> and populate it from existing .planet files and remove them/note they aren't used. 19:29:40 <pingou> nirik: my thoughts as well, I would add a get_planet_config or something which would return the ini file desired 19:29:52 <nirik> or perhaps look at both? 19:30:43 <nirik> yeah, so needs more working... 19:30:49 <pingou> yup 19:31:37 <pingou> we could do something like: check FAS first, override by .planet 19:31:40 <nirik> any other old tickets to kill off? 19:31:50 <pingou> allow .planet to add one more blog or so 19:31:52 <nirik> pingou: yep. or vice versa 19:32:31 <pingou> so that'll be another ticket :) 19:32:38 <pingou> fix the planet script 19:33:23 <nirik> pingou: sure, blocking that one? 19:33:27 <nirik> how about: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1162 19:33:45 <nirik> patchwork sounds interesting, but perhaps it could be merged into the mailing list rework work stuff. ;) 19:35:10 <pingou> that's an idea 19:36:24 <nirik> ok, if no other dusty tickets... 19:36:28 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:36:34 <nirik> Anyone have anything for open floor? 19:37:13 <marcelk1985> what happens during open floor? 19:37:30 <smooge> if you have an issue you would like to bring up. this is the time to do s 19:37:33 <wolfkit> open floor is for general discussion, if you have anything to bring up that wasn't mentioned in the topics 19:37:37 <nirik> marcelk1985: anyone can bring up topics that were not convered before. ;) 19:37:48 <nirik> covered even. Like my poor speeling. 19:37:49 <marcelk1985> oh 19:38:08 <LinuxCode> nirik, ok, your poor spelling is ..appalling! 19:38:11 <LinuxCode> lol 19:38:13 <LinuxCode> jk 19:38:13 <CodeBlock> :) 19:38:18 <nirik> :) 19:38:20 <marcelk1985> very poor speeling ;-) 19:38:26 <wolfkit> action nirik needs to install a spellcheck plugin to his IRC client 19:38:34 <nirik> ha. ;) 19:38:56 <LinuxCode> wolfkit, I have one running and it does not help 19:39:19 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing else, will close out in a minute. 19:39:29 * CodeBlock would imagine it would false trigger a lot on linuxey stuff that isn't necessarily a real word. 19:39:54 <LinuxCode> CodeBlock, no, you just do not look all the time, before you hit the enter key 19:39:57 <LinuxCode> ;-p 19:41:05 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. :) Do continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps 19:41:07 <nirik> #endmeeting