August 2021 - kde - Fedora mailing-lists

Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson 01 Mar '22

01 Mar '22

Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit networking criteria. This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff, nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints, alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks! === Network requirements === Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included). ==== Basic networking ==== It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and ssh must work as expected. Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion, after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent- issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly, violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when determining whether they are release-blocking ==== VPN connections ==== Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported VNC servers with typical configurations. Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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How to set default session type to Plasma for sddm
by Roderick Johnstone 29 Oct '21

29 Oct '21

Hi How do I set the default session type for sddm to offer to be Plasma? I'm currently getting Gnome Classic? This is F22. Thanks Roderick Johnstone

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Problems with kmail on F35
by José Abílio Matos 06 Sep '21

06 Sep '21

After updating to F35 I have problems seeing the messages content on kmail. I get the dreadful "org.kde.pim.webengine viewer: WebEngine render process crashed" This only applies to seeing the messages, everything else works. I see the folders, the messages list and so on. I can select the messages and view the source. Is there any suggestion to fix this? Best regards, -- José Abílio

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thermald: No temp sysfs for reading raw temp
by sbob 31 Aug '21

31 Aug '21

All; I am running Fedora 34 on an LG Gram 17, I was having shutdown issues, likely due to cpu overheating issues... So I installet thermald, then I enabled it in systemctl, but when I look at /var/log/messages I see entries like this: messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:10 F34host systemd[1]: thermald.service: Consumed 2min 26.227s CPU time. messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=thermald comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success' messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host thermald[2462]: 27 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:7e:5 (6:126:5) messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host thermald[2462]: 27 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:7e:5 (6:126:5) messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host thermald[2462]: Polling mode is enabled: 4 messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host thermald[2462]: sensor id 10 : No temp sysfs for reading raw temp messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host thermald[2462]: sensor id 10 : No temp sysfs for reading raw temp messages-20210829:Aug 27 20:33:42 F34host thermald[2462]: sensor id 10 : No temp sysfs for reading raw temp Thoughts? Thanks in advance

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The list archive shows posts that I don;t see in Thunderbird
by John Pilkington 29 Aug '21

29 Aug '21

I'm used to this for my own posts, but I haven't seen posts from the OP of the last two threads. John P

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 29 Aug '21

29 Aug '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-08-30 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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List server mis-configured?
by Emmett Culley 28 Aug '21

28 Aug '21

I noticed recently that each time I send an email to the kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org mailing list I get up to three failed DMARC reports from other email servers. The list is sending email "from" me with the source address: Source-IP: 38.145.60.11 (bastion-iad01.fedoraproject.org) Which, of course, does not match up with my email server's IP address, so SPF fails, It also appears that DKIM signature also does not match. I've had my server's DNS set up to request DMARK failure reports for a few years and haven't seen any reports lately except via this list. So I am wondering if something is mis-configured on this list server. Emmett

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WTF "Executing Dolphin with kdesu is not possible due to unfixable security vulnerabilities"
by Emmett Culley 27 Aug '21

27 Aug '21

I updated my workstation (fedora 34) this morning and when I tried to run dolphin as root I saw the above message. What are the KDE developers thinking? I am a developer (30 years) and am often needing to alter something on my workstation as root. What possible reason would the dophin devloper have to prevent me from doing that? It is not as if a new KDE user might accidentally enable that functionality. Who the heck (putting it extremely mildly) are they trying to protect? I used to use Konqueror until this same thing happened. Konqueror had advantages, like profiles, that made it hard to give up, but I did give it up because I needed occasional root access more than I needed profiles. Why should I have to change my ways because some developers have a nanny complex. Emmett

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cannot mount the same device twice without a reboot
by sbob 27 Aug '21

27 Aug '21

All; I am seeing an odd behavior. I am running Fedora 34 KDE spin I plug in an external USB drive and the KDE disks & devices app on the task bar shows the device and allows me to click "Mount and Open" However if I click the "safely remove" in the KDE "disks & devices" dialog, and unplug the drive, then later plug the same drive in again (same or different USB port) then the "disks & devices" dialog never comes up, and if I go to it it says "No Devices Available" I can still mount it manually via the mount command, but the KDE dialog refuses to show me any drives (for this drive) until I reboot If I execute dmesg I see this (see below) - thanks in advance for any help [59102.483693] usb-storage 4-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [59102.483778] scsi host0: usb-storage 4-2:1.0 [59103.547117] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD Elements 25A3 1030 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [59103.547469] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 [59103.548769] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Spinning up disk... [59104.569633] .................ready [59120.954263] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). [59120.954439] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 15627986944 512-byte logical blocks: (8.00 TB/7.28 TiB) [59120.954446] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 4096-byte physical blocks [59120.955166] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [59120.955175] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08 [59120.955754] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found [59120.955760] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [59121.020690] sda: sda1 [59121.048512] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk

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Random laptop shutdowns
by sbob 24 Aug '21

24 Aug '21

All; I am experiencing random laptop shutdowns, I'll be working and it just turns off, not a real shutdown just the screen goes black and it's powered off instantly. I suspect it may be a hardware issue but I have no idea how to debug it. I'm running Fedora 34 - KDE Spin on a LG Gram 17 Below is the output of lspci, thanks in advance for any help debugging this # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Iris Plus Graphics G7 (rev 07) 00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device 8a03 (rev 03) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Thunderbolt 3 PCI Express Root Port #0 (rev 03) 00:0d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Thunderbolt 3 USB Controller (rev 03) 00:0d.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Thunderbolt 3 NHI #0 (rev 03) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP USB 3.1 xHCI Host Controller (rev 30) 00:14.2 RAM memory: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP DRAM Controller (rev 30) 00:14.3 Network controller: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP PCH CNVi WiFi (rev 30) 00:15.0 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 30) 00:15.1 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 30) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Management Engine (rev 30) 00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev 30) 00:1d.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 34b4 (rev 30) 00:1e.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Serial IO UART Controller #0 (rev 30) 00:1e.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Serial IO SPI Controller #1 (rev 30) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP LPC Controller (rev 30) 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller (rev 30) 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP SMBus Controller (rev 30) 00:1f.5 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Ice Lake-LP SPI Controller (rev 30) 2b:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Micron/Crucial Technology Device 5412 2c:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981/PM983

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-08-23 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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Dual boot Fedora 34 et Windows 10
by mmoperso＠gmail.com 17 Aug '21

17 Aug '21

Bonjour, Comme d'autres sur le net, je remarque qu'il est devenu impossible de créer *SIMPLEMENT* un dual boot entre Fedora 34 et Windows 10. Lu sur le net les propositions...du plus simple au plus hermétique ! Désolé, aucune solution simple ne fonctionne chez moi. Essayé effectivement, à l'installation, de monter la partition EFI de Windows en /boot/efi, mais rien n'y fait !!! Plus généralement, je m'interroge sur la nécessité, au fil des release successives, de supprimer ces facilités excessivement pratiques genre grub-customizer. De même je regrette vivement aussi depuis plusieur release ne plus pouvoir sous root ouvrir Dolphin, et avoir accès à tout. Fort dommages tous ces changements quelles qu'en soient les raisons. Quelqu'un peut-il me donner la solution SIMPLE, qui marche, pour intégrer un dual boot à Fedora 34 ou sinon un lien pour télécharger la dernière release Fedora-KDE-live usb qui possède encore cette possibilité dans grub-customizer ? Merci beaucoup.

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 15 Aug '21

15 Aug '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-08-16 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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Task manager - Firefox - only one icon shown in task manager
by John Horne 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

Hello, Using plasma/wayland on Fedora 34, I have noticed recently that if I invoke Firefox, then an icon (with text) appears in the task manager. However, any subsequent invocations of Firefox, via the system tray, do not appear - no icon, no text. For my set up, I have configured the task manager such that applications should show an icon with text, no grouping and no sorting, and using 2 rows maximum. (I rarely have many applications open at once.) I have added the Firefox application icon to the panel. This used to work fine, but some recent change must have occurred. The problem does not occur, for example, with konsole or chrome, they show multiple icons/text if invoked multiple times - it just seems to be Firefox that only appears once. I can, of course, get around the problem by using Alt-Tab to show open windows. Has anyone else noticed this? Or anyone any ideas of how to get the former behaviour - multiple icons/text? I wouldn't have thought that Firefox itself has an option to deal with the KDE panel/task manager. I have tried looking (googling) for something specific to Firefox and the task manager, but can't really find anything relevant. O/S: Fedora 34 Kwin-wayland: 5.22.4 Kf5-plasma: 5.83.0 Firefox: 90.0.2 Thanks, John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK ________________________________ [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form.

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Sound problem in KDE
by Klaus Kolle 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

I have run into an odd problem. I listen to music from Tidal in Falkon. I use Zoom and other video conference systems. I watch videos, e.g. youtube in Firefox (my main browser) and watch streamed TV in Chrome. (Yes I know its a lot of different applications, but this is what works for me.) When I change from one application to another there is no sound. I can go to the Volume settings in the systray and switch to another output and then back and the sound is back on for this source. Next time I switch to another application, it is all the same procedure to get the sound working. Where do I start to search for a cause of this annoying problem? How can I fix it? Note: I'm running Fedora 33 completely updated. It's an rather old installation that I have upgraded over the years. Laptop is a Lenovo C740 with a dock through the USB interface. Analogue sound output to amplifier is taken on the dock. |< -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Klaus Kolle Teknikumingeniør, B.Sc.EE., e-mail : klaus(a)kolle.dk Master of IT www : www.kolle.dk Asger Jorns Vej 17 Telefon : +4522216044 DK-8600 Silkeborg, Denmark "Man skal ikke tilskrive til sammensværgelser hvad der tilstrækkeligt kan forklares af inkompetence" Poul Henning Kamp Planlægning er tanker om noget man agter at gøre en gang i fremtiden, hvis omstændighederne tillader det. Klaus Kolle 2006 Perfection is achieved not when nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more left to take away. Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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Compose key stopped working
by Emmett Culley 08 Aug '21

08 Aug '21

I have the compose key set to Scroll lock, but is seems to ignored. I've tried setting a different compose key, but that did not work either. If I type Compose o o I expected a degree symbol to get printed, but instead all I see in oo Nothing I've found on on Google tells me anything I haven't already tried. window manager = sddm (X11) KDE on Fedora 34 fully updated.

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journal flood of qt.core.qabstractitemmodel.checkindex
by Adrian Sevcenco 08 Aug '21

08 Aug '21

Hi! I just noticed that i have a huge flood of this message in journal: plasmashell[3307]: qt.core.qabstractitemmodel.checkindex: Index QModelIndex(-1,-1,0x0,QObject(0x0)) is not valid (expected valid) the rate is around 24 messages/s Does anyone have any idea what is going on? Thanks a lot! Adrian

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 08 Aug '21

08 Aug '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-08-09 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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uresourced dependency
by Vitaly Zaitsev 02 Aug '21

02 Aug '21

Hello all. > Requires: uresourced[1] Please make uresourced optional: Recommends: uresourced. I don't want to install another daemon to my system. [1]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/plasma-workspace/c/6fba0c215ca2489adb84c… -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vitaly(a)easycoding.org)

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"Open System Monitor" in System Monitor applet fails
by Jonathan Ryshpan 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

Right clicking applet "System monitor Sensor" -> "Open System Monitor" does nothing except bring up this message: Plasma Desktop Workspace Plasma Workspace Internal error: could not prompt the user for which application to start. I would like this to start ksysguard. System info: Operating System: Fedora 34 KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.4 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.83.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2 Kernel Version: 5.13.5-200.fc34.x86_64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: X11 Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: Mesa DRI Intel® HD Graphics 4600 System monitor Sensor 1.0 -- Sincerely Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh(a)pacbell.net> And God fulfills himself in many ways Lest one good custom should corrupt the world. -- Tennyson

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-08-02 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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