On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:

Unless you posess the ability to travel through time, your comments are
totally useless.
F21 is still supported if you prefer Plasma 4

for how long - 4/5 months? *laughable*

KDE upstream should have learned from the KDE4 fuckup which took *years* to get useable again and not break user setups again and again while wonder for decades why the majority of users out there donät siwtch to a Linux desktop

a good upgrade is completly *invisible* for existing users independet how large are the changes on lower levels - that said from a developer who satisfies his users by *not* change their expirience permenently

Well, you have an excellent point... but anytime you upgrade something, someone is going to be unhappy. Could they have done better, probably... I think some of the issues

come from the fact that they simply didn't have large numbers of people testing the code. Now problems which were previously unknown are being discovered. Some (like the plasmashell lockup) still haven't been resolved. Hopefully, that will be done soon. In the meantime, I'm trying to be patient and do my part by testing and filling out bug reports.

Part of Fedora's mission is to drive innovation and stay as close to upstream as possible; meaning you get the latest and greatest. Usually, things go relatively smooth, but the nature of the beast is other times, not so much - which is why the Fedora 21 will be supported until 1 month after the release of F23 - and you're correct we're probably talking about 6 months max. That being the case, maybe Fedora isn't the best fit to be used in a mission critical production environment. I have friends that love and use Fedora, but at work they

recommend and use CentOS just for that reason. It's fun being able to experience the latest and the greatest... but there is an inherent risk for doing that.