On Mar 23, 2015 2:53 AM, "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Pete Travis composed on 2015-03-22 21:48 (UTC-0400):
>
> > Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> Is there a list anywhere of what packages are required to get any session to
> >> proceed beyond crash notices? Out of more than a dozen, probably more than
> >> twice that, of F22 & Rawhide installations, I've only ever seen what KF
> >> desktop looks like on one, and that on the slowest system on which I have
> >> either installed, an Athlon XP 2000+.
>
> >> I'm not interested in having anything more than the bare minimum, plus
> >> Konsole, Konq, Kmix and Ksnapshot. The only "k" groupinstall I"ve found,
> >> kde-desktop', wants to add 362 packages to the 112 KDE/KDF packages already
> >> installed, among them bluedevil, bluez, kamera, kdegames-minimal, kmail,
> >> kontact, multiple NetworkManager leaves, dmraid, firewalld, ghostscript,
> >> bazillions of python*, speech-dispatcher, lvm2 and many other packages, all
> >> inconsistent with minimalism, and unlikely that I'd ever use on purpose.
>
> >> On the latest, I left the screen just sitting after closing the crash
> >> windows. Eventually the locker tried to start, so now my screen's center is
> >> covered with illegible (text in some tiny fraction of what I can see without
> >> a magnifier) syslogd messages. Switching to a tty to login, I get a
> >> continuous flood of syslogd messages about the locker that makes killing
> >> startkde tough.
>
> > Afaik - and I sincerely hope to be corrected if I am wrong - the closest
> > thing to an 'official' system requirements list resides in the Release
> > Notes.  As an F22 tester, I hope you would send some signal to the docs
> > team if you observe higher requirements than those stated for the previous
> > release.
>
> I don't see anything about "system requirements" in TOC on
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/Release_Notes/, but
> "system requirements" isn't anything like what I was asking for.
>
> Put another way, on a system that already can run TWM or IceWM or some other
> X session besides KDE, what needs to be installed so that a Plasma Desktop
> can be reached without any crash messages along the way, or the way being
> halted, and subsequently being able to start and use Konq, Ksnapshot, Kcalc,
> Kmix and Konsole. Since my OP I did some experimentingand found the following
> seems to provide needed additions to a minimal HTTP installation:
>
> yum install \
>     alsa-utils \
>     cups-client \
>     gwenview \
>     kcalc \
>     kcm-gtk \
>     kcm_systemd \
>     kde-baseapps \
>     kde-settings-plasma \
>     kdm \
>     konqueror \
>     kmenuedit \
>     kmix \
>     konsole \
>     ksnapshot \
>     kwin \
>     mesa-dri-drivers \
>     plasma-desktop \
>     plasma-systemsettings \
>     plasma-workspace \
>     xorg-x11-apps \
>     xorg-x11-drv-ati \
>     xorg-x11-drv-evdev \
>     xorg-x11-drv-fbdev \
>     xorg-x11-drv-intel \
>     xorg-x11-drv-libinput \
>     xorg-x11-drv-libinput \
>     xorg-x11-drv-nouveau \
>     xorg-x11-drv-vesa \
>     xorg-x11-font-utils \
>     xorg-x11-server-common \
>     xorg-x11-server-utils \
>     xorg-x11-server-Xorg \
>     xorg-x11-utils \
>     xorg-x11-xauth
>     xorg-x11-xinit \
>     xorg-x11-xkb-utils
> --
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> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
>
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>
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> _______________________________________________

My apologies, I completely misinterpreted your message. Its not clear how I would have done that so thoroughly...

--Pete