On 12/09/2014 01:24 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 01:17:59PM -0500, Temlakos wrote:
With the F21 release, they grudgingly let you upgrade with the
"nonproduct" option.
I think you're projecting. Command line options do not hold grudges.

But designers of command-line programs do.


But what happens with F22? Will they Shanghai all us KDE users and
force us to switch to GNOME, or else get out of the Fedora
community?
No. Why on earth would we want either of those things?

To rid yourselves of what you might consider a needless complication.


Where is the option to specify KDE as a Product?
See:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next#What_makes_a_.22product.22.3F

and, older, 

http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-update-part-ii-whats-happening/

As for upgrading, there's no particular _reason_ to need a KDE-specific
option at this point, but if in the future the KDE SIG would like to
increase differentiation from the defaults in a way that would make it
useful, an option could be added.

By the way: the link I found to spins.fedoraproject.org/ still has the links for the old F20 spin torrents. Is that an oversight on someone's part?

Indeed: I read and understand what you wrote on those pages. I even read what you wrote about a discussion either to create a specific Plasma product, or to invite the "KDE Sig" to take active roles in the development of the Workstation project. I read what you wrote, but it's not happening. What is happening is a monumental disdain for any desktop other than GNOME.



I chose KDE for a reason: GNOME is just plain too confusing when it
comes to "switching a user." For that reason, and a whole host of
pleasant discoveries of how well KDE replicates another environment
with which I am familiar, I chose KDE beginning with F12. And I
never looked back.
Cool. KDE is great, the Fedora KDE community is awesome, and the Fedora
KDE spin is top-notch.


I agree. I just want to make sure the KDE spin is in no danger of discontinuance.

Temlakos