Interesting, but it looks like they load a different distribution for each desktop. So it's not really comparing KDE to XFCE, it's comparing Kubuntu to Xubuntu, and then whole other distributions. If we did that in Fedora land, installed a default KDE Spin to a XFCE Spin, the results would be different just because they both pull in very different packages. What would be interesting to do, it to start with a Fedora minimal install. install the base KDE and base XFCE desktops, and throw in IceWM as well, and see what the differences are. That would give you the same underlying distribution, with the different desktops. On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 4:58 AM Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

I'm an avid user of KDE on fedora, but I do consider the latest KDE/Plasma 5 to be far too resource intensive. However the disk space is not really an issue to me, it is the disk usage. You try logging into a newly booted Fedora KDE system when using a spinning hard disk, it takes forever ! I'm not sure if it is because of large numbers of small library files, or large numbers of small QtQuick QML files or what but it is really bad. I did look at how many file accesses it needed to login, it was around 70,000 file open's. A 4 core i5-3450 CPU @ 3.10GHz, 16 GBytes RAM system running Fedora25/KDE took 50 seconds from login screen to desktop. An ancient Thinkpad 600E, single core Mobile Pentium II 363 MHz, 228 MBytes RAM running Fedora6 and KDE 3 system takes 21 seconds from login screen to KDE 3 desktop. Go figure! It's ok on SSD drives (and I have had to move all my systems to SSD just because of this KDE/Plasma issue), but really for a desktop system that is in use all of the time it shouldn't be using the disk as much as this it is slowing it down and wasting energy and time. Not sure how Gnome/XFCE compares. On 30/10/2019 16:17, Troy Dawson wrote: > I'm in the middle of writing a pair of articles for Fedora Magazine on > this. Not just KDE but all the Fedora desktops. > Preliminary tests, on the Fedora KDE spin versus the Fedora XFCE spin. > KDE: 723 M > XFCE: 416 M > > That is not my "minimal install" with the desktop on top of it. It's > what you get by default if you install the KDE spin or the XFCE spin. > Soo ... not looking too good for the article thus far. Though, I do > notice that akonadi is running by default on the KDE spin. I don't > usually have that turned on, so it's possible that doing my minimal > install will drop the memory some. > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 6:26 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> Interesting, but it looks like they load a different distribution for >> each desktop. >> So it's not really comparing KDE to XFCE, it's comparing Kubuntu to >> Xubuntu, and then whole other distributions. >> If we did that in Fedora land, installed a default KDE Spin to a XFCE >> Spin, the results would be different just because they both pull in >> very different packages. >> >> What would be interesting to do, it to start with a Fedora minimal >> install. install the base KDE and base XFCE desktops, and throw in >> IceWM as well, and see what the differences are. That would give you >> the same underlying distribution, with the different desktops. >> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 4:58 AM Patrick O'Callaghan >> <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> An interesting (though somewhat unscientific) article comparing KDE >>> Plasma with Xfce. Hope it's considered relevant for this list: >>> >>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-prediction-kd... >>> >>> poc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kde mailing list -- kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@lists.fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list -- kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@lists.fedoraproject.org