On Thu September 8 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote: The KDE(a)lists.fedoraproject.org is a mailing list. I think you're confusing *running* a mailing list with being subscribed to a mailing list and having the messages for that list going into a particular folder specifically for the mailing list.

Anne Wilson wrote: I should say that what I really want to do is set up my own mailing list, ie a list of email addresses and a facility to send email to a "virtual address", say "MyFriends", which will result in the message being sent to the people on the list. Is that possible with the current PIM/KMail/KAddressBook? It used to be possible with KAddressBook, but seems to have disappeared. This is rather difficult to discover, as KAddressBook has not had an official Handbook for many years, despite their being a pointer to it. Am I alone in wishing that the PIM developers in particular, and KDE developers in general, would stop thinking of clever things to do, and document properly what is available now? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

Anne Wilson wrote: Did you get round to this? I'd be very interested to know if it is possible. I think I must be misunderstanding something, as surely many people want to send email frequently to a group of say 10-20 people, and don't want to list all the addresses each time? (My wife seems to have no difficulty doing this with Outlook!) Can this be done in some way with aliases in sendmail, or something like that? Though in my case, I'd rather keep the list on my server. I do keep an OpenLDAP contact list on my server, and have seen suggestions that one can set up a mailing list with this, though I haven't seen any concrete description of what to do. Also the link between KAddressBook and OpenLDAP is rather hazy, in my experience, eg OpenLDAP contacts come up in KMail, but not in KAddressBook. According to "kmail -v" I'm running KMail: 1.13.7 . How will you go up to KMail 2? Do you compile it separately, or are you updating kdepim? I did look at the documentation there, but it did not seem to answer my query. I assume you are responsible for this documentation, in which case I'd like to thank you, as I have found UserBase helpful in several cases. But I take it this is a substitute for a proper Handbook from the KAddressBook developer or developers? I think that is a very dangerous argument. It's only a small step from there to "Linux is rubbish, because it is written by people in their spare time" In my limited experience, opensource software is at least as good in general as its commercial counterparts. And I think it should be judged by the same standards. In this case, I think it should be a requirement that anyone offering KDE or Fedora software should provide minimal documentation with it. That does not seem a very onerous request to me. I also think documenting a program is good for a developer, as it clarifies the logic of the program. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/17/2011 12:59 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm sorry to say that I can't help at all. Migration appeared to complete. After some fiddling I got Calendar and Contacts working, but KMail defeats me. The Akonadi Resource console tells me that all the resources are ready (there are duplications, but that's the least of my worries) but every time I start KMail it appears to check the folders, then crashes after a few seconds. The few messages that are local (on this laptop) display from the start, but the messages on my IMAP server never get as far as displaying. Sadly, I have to manage on Thunderbird for now. Anne

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/20/2011 05:36 AM, Claude Jones wrote: That shouldn't happen. Your mail should not have been touched. I can read all mine either in Thunderbird or in a KMail 1 on the netbook. All akonadi does is make a searchable database and cache messages. I'm told that the problem is fixed in 4.7.1, so when Rex has solved his problem I'm more hopeful. Anne

On 09/20/2011 04:21 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: In my case, I had moved all my mail manually from the old "Local folders" structure to the new "KMail folders" structure. Then, I thought I could delete the old folders - that's when everything went to hell. I have a complete archive on my work machine so at some point, I'll copy it on to a big thumb drive and restore it on my home machine, but I'm waiting for things to stabilize before I do... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA

John Aldrich wrote: The sentence I cited above contains the term "mailing list" 3 times. I'm asking about the second occurrence. The sentence doesn't make any sense to me if you use your example for this occurrence. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

On Fri September 9 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote: that is the email address for the KDE/Fedora mailing list. How do you access this (KDE/Fedora) mailing list??

John Aldrich wrote: Through the gmane newsgroup (using knode). -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland