I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg. Will kde run on wayland?
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 07:24:32AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg. Will kde run on wayland?
Thanks for bringing this up. The decision that's being discussed for Workstation. I haven't seen discussions or planning for KDE or any of the other Spins.
Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg.
That applies to fedora workstation (only).
Will kde run on wayland?
plasma has initial support for wayland, but I would personally characterize it as fairly preliminary and alpha/tech-preview quality so far.
-- Rex
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg.
That applies to fedora workstation (only).
Will kde run on wayland?
plasma has initial support for wayland, but I would personally characterize it as fairly preliminary and alpha/tech-preview quality so far.
With the current progress, it might be pretty much usable with 5.8. It has some performance issues, I had one crash so far (but that's actually not bad at all!) and one big feature missing is keyboard layout switching. Otherwise when I use it, I sometimes forget I'm on Wayland. Of course there are still some rough edges regarding Wayland, we will see if Workstation will switch for real in F25 or both Workstation and Plasma will switch together in F26.
Jaroslav
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On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 14:48 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg.
That applies to fedora workstation (only).
Will kde run on wayland?
plasma has initial support for wayland, but I would personally characterize it as fairly preliminary and alpha/tech-preview quality so far.
With the current progress, it might be pretty much usable with 5.8. It has some performance issues, I had one crash so far (but that's actually not bad at all!) and one big feature missing is keyboard layout switching. Otherwise when I use it, I sometimes forget I'm on Wayland. Of course there are still some rough edges regarding Wayland, we will see if Workstation will switch for real in F25 or both Workstation and Plasma will switch together in F26.
Seeing that F25 did switch to Wayland for the Workstation spin, is there any more news regarding KDE? If so, how does one switch to Wayland (there seems to be a complete lack of easy to find documentation).
poc
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 14:48 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg.
That applies to fedora workstation (only).
Will kde run on wayland?
plasma has initial support for wayland, but I would personally characterize it as fairly preliminary and alpha/tech-preview quality so far.
With the current progress, it might be pretty much usable with 5.8. It has some performance issues, I had one crash so far (but that's actually not bad at all!) and one big feature missing is keyboard layout switching. Otherwise when I use it, I sometimes forget I'm on Wayland. Of course there are still some rough edges regarding Wayland, we will see if Workstation will switch for real in F25 or both Workstation and Plasma will switch together in F26.
Seeing that F25 did switch to Wayland for the Workstation spin, is there any more news regarding KDE? If so, how does one switch to Wayland (there seems to be a complete lack of easy to find documentation).
Install plasma-workspace-wayland and then select Plasma (Wayland) session in your login manager.
I'd say I was too optimistic, 5.8 is not yet there. But as always - more folks trying it, more bugs, better feedback...
Jaroslav
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On Thu, 2016-11-24 at 13:48 +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 14:48 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg.
That applies to fedora workstation (only).
Will kde run on wayland?
plasma has initial support for wayland, but I would personally characterize it as fairly preliminary and alpha/tech-preview quality so far.
With the current progress, it might be pretty much usable with 5.8. It has some performance issues, I had one crash so far (but that's actually not bad at all!) and one big feature missing is keyboard layout switching. Otherwise when I use it, I sometimes forget I'm on Wayland. Of course there are still some rough edges regarding Wayland, we will see if Workstation will switch for real in F25 or both Workstation and Plasma will switch together in F26.
Seeing that F25 did switch to Wayland for the Workstation spin, is there any more news regarding KDE? If so, how does one switch to Wayland (there seems to be a complete lack of easy to find documentation).
Install plasma-workspace-wayland and then select Plasma (Wayland) session in your login manager.
I'd say I was too optimistic, 5.8 is not yet there. But as always - more folks trying it, more bugs, better feedback...
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Back to X for now.
poc
Am 24.11.2016 um 14:28 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box)
besides the other issues i doubt that you have to hard reset a linux box just because of GUI hang!
* CTRL+ALT+F5 or whatever VT doe snot run a GUI * login * systemctl restart display-manager
On Thu, 2016-11-24 at 14:43 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 24.11.2016 um 14:28 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box)
besides the other issues i doubt that you have to hard reset a linux box just because of GUI hang!
- CTRL+ALT+F5 or whatever VT doe snot run a GUI
- login
- systemctl restart display-manager
No, that didn't work. Ctrl-Alt-Fn had no reaction.
poc
On 11/24/16 21:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Do you mean "plasma" or "kwin_wayland"? On a system with just a blank desktop "kwin_wayland" was sitting pegged at about 98% CPU. After a few minutes, it dropped out of the "top" screen. I then started a konsole instance and it seemed to take a long time to get it going and kwin_wayland was back at 98%. Then, leaving things sit idle it again dropped down to a very small % of CPU for a while and then back to high CPU usage. Seems to cycle through something. Mouse movement is very jerky. I then clicked on the "menu" icon and the system is totally non responsive. The disk activity light is on constantly and the mouse is frozen.
I was watching this from a ssh session that I had open. I issued an "init 6" and after 3 minutes of waiting with no reboot I hit the power button.
Back to X for now.
On 11/24/2016 10:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 21:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Do you mean "plasma" or "kwin_wayland"? On a system with just a blank desktop "kwin_wayland" was sitting pegged at about 98% CPU. After a few minutes, it dropped out of the "top" screen. I then started a konsole instance and it seemed to take a long time to get it going and kwin_wayland was back at 98%. Then, leaving things sit idle it again dropped down to a very small % of CPU for a while and then back to high CPU usage. Seems to cycle through something. Mouse movement is very jerky. I then clicked on the "menu" icon and the system is totally non responsive. The disk activity light is on constantly and the mouse is frozen.
I was watching this from a ssh session that I had open. I issued an "init 6" and after 3 minutes of waiting with no reboot I hit the power button.
Back to X for now.
Consistently under 1% CPU usage here for both. Only issue I see so far is everything looks bigger on the screen, like the resolution has changed.
On 11/24/16 22:12, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 11/24/2016 10:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 21:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Do you mean "plasma" or "kwin_wayland"? On a system with just a blank desktop "kwin_wayland" was sitting pegged at about 98% CPU. After a few minutes, it dropped out of the "top" screen. I then started a konsole instance and it seemed to take a long time to get it going and kwin_wayland was back at 98%. Then, leaving things sit idle it again dropped down to a very small % of CPU for a while and then back to high CPU usage. Seems to cycle through something. Mouse movement is very jerky. I then clicked on the "menu" icon and the system is totally non responsive. The disk activity light is on constantly and the mouse is frozen.
I was watching this from a ssh session that I had open. I issued an "init 6" and after 3 minutes of waiting with no reboot I hit the power button.
Back to X for now.
Consistently under 1% CPU usage here for both. Only issue I see so far is everything looks bigger on the screen, like the resolution has changed.
Is yours a fresh install or an upgrade?
On 11/24/2016 05:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 22:12, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 11/24/2016 10:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 21:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Do you mean "plasma" or "kwin_wayland"? On a system with just a blank desktop "kwin_wayland" was sitting pegged at about 98% CPU. After a few minutes, it dropped out of the "top" screen. I then started a konsole instance and it seemed to take a long time to get it going and kwin_wayland was back at 98%. Then, leaving things sit idle it again dropped down to a very small % of CPU for a while and then back to high CPU usage. Seems to cycle through something. Mouse movement is very jerky. I then clicked on the "menu" icon and the system is totally non responsive. The disk activity light is on constantly and the mouse is frozen.
I was watching this from a ssh session that I had open. I issued an "init 6" and after 3 minutes of waiting with no reboot I hit the power button.
Back to X for now.
Consistently under 1% CPU usage here for both. Only issue I see so far is everything looks bigger on the screen, like the resolution has changed.
Is yours a fresh install or an upgrade?
Upgrade from Fedora 24 using fedup
Up to these postings I hadn't known about how easy to install it, so I tried it myself on my Rawhide by simply doing 'dnf install kde-plasma-workspace' followed by a reboot:
Even so, there was a display. On both my actually two screens! And Firefox worked well! Yeah, some troubles with the panel and so, o.k., and as there's reported, Ragnaroek at logout.
But don't you guys be that impatient! Things will grow up, future will arrive even sooner you believe, the door is wide! It's got just more than a hopeful beginning ... ; )
On 2016-11-24 23:42, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 11/24/2016 05:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 22:12, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 11/24/2016 10:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 21:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Do you mean "plasma" or "kwin_wayland"? On a system with just a blank desktop "kwin_wayland" was sitting pegged at about 98% CPU. After a few minutes, it dropped out of the "top" screen. I then started a konsole instance and it seemed to take a long time to get it going and kwin_wayland was back at 98%. Then, leaving things sit idle it again dropped down to a very small % of CPU for a while and then back to high CPU usage. Seems to cycle through something. Mouse movement is very jerky. I then clicked on the "menu" icon and the system is totally non responsive. The disk activity light is on constantly and the mouse is frozen.
I was watching this from a ssh session that I had open. I issued an "init 6" and after 3 minutes of waiting with no reboot I hit the power button.
Back to X for now.
Consistently under 1% CPU usage here for both. Only issue I see so far is everything looks bigger on the screen, like the resolution has changed.
Is yours a fresh install or an upgrade?
Upgrade from Fedora 24 using fedup
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On Thu, 2016-11-24 at 22:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/24/16 21:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks. I tried it but it's not ready for prime time. It starts up and seems to restore my session, but is very laggy. Plasma is consuming around 70% of my CPU (an i7 with 16GB). It also dies when logging out (i.e. I get a blank screen and have to reset the box).
Do you mean "plasma" or "kwin_wayland"? On a system with just a blank desktop "kwin_wayland" was sitting pegged at about 98% CPU. After a few minutes, it dropped out of the "top" screen. I then started a konsole instance and it seemed to take a long time to get it going and kwin_wayland was back at 98%. Then, leaving things sit idle it again dropped down to a very small % of CPU for a while and then back to high CPU usage. Seems to cycle through something. Mouse movement is very jerky. I then clicked on the "menu" icon and the system is totally non responsive. The disk activity light is on constantly and the mouse is frozen.
I was watching this from a ssh session that I had open. I issued an "init 6" and after 3 minutes of waiting with no reboot I hit the power button.
Back to X for now.
Yes, I should have said kwin_wayland. My mistake.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 14:48 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I see that F25 will run wayland by default instead of Xorg.
That applies to fedora workstation (only).
Will kde run on wayland?
plasma has initial support for wayland, but I would personally characterize it as fairly preliminary and alpha/tech-preview quality so far.
With the current progress, it might be pretty much usable with 5.8. It has some performance issues, I had one crash so far (but that's actually not bad at all!) and one big feature missing is keyboard layout switching. Otherwise when I use it, I sometimes forget I'm on Wayland. Of course there are still some rough edges regarding Wayland, we will see if Workstation will switch for real in F25 or both Workstation and Plasma will switch together in F26.
Seeing that F25 did switch to Wayland for the Workstation spin, is there any more news regarding KDE? If so, how does one switch to Wayland (there seems to be a complete lack of easy to find documentation).
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I tried it also, intel graphics here
It seemed to start OK, although the messages that popped up were very large font.
But then I logged out, and I got a black screen, with 'segfault sddm- greeter'. I was unable to swtich to a VT, alt-ctrl-del, or anything else. Finally had to hard reset (hold pwr).
Am 25.11.2016 um 17:22 schrieb Neal Becker:
I tried it also, intel graphics here
It seemed to start OK, although the messages that popped up were very large font.
But then I logged out, and I got a black screen, with 'segfault sddm- greeter'. I was unable to swtich to a VT, alt-ctrl-del, or anything else. Finally had to hard reset (hold pwr)
when it really locks the whole machine it's a kernel problem, in any other case a short power-off should cleanly shutdown the machine
On 25/11/16 09:25, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 25.11.2016 um 17:22 schrieb Neal Becker:
I tried it also, intel graphics here
It seemed to start OK, although the messages that popped up were very large font.
But then I logged out, and I got a black screen, with 'segfault sddm- greeter'. I was unable to swtich to a VT, alt-ctrl-del, or anything else. Finally had to hard reset (hold pwr)
when it really locks the whole machine it's a kernel problem, in any other case a short power-off should cleanly shutdown the machine _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
I had an issue with an onboard AMD video processor that used to lock my machine. Took me weeks to find out it was the video card at fault. Since getting a nvidia video card, no lockups.
I would try to ssh into the machine to see if there is something you can do. With my video issue, I could ssh into the machine and do a pretty clean shutdown and reboot.
Robin
Using Plasma on Wayland almost exclusively for months, can live with the bugs (few in my case, reported, but I am using Intel GPU), Firefox and Chrome work fine, most apps too, some don't work at all (gparted).
Mustafa
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