3:38 a.m.
I know there have been problems, but are we any nearer getting the backend
stuff yet?
Anne
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11:19 a.m.
Hello Anne,
On Saturday 10 October 2009, 05:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
I know there have been problems, but are we any nearer getting the
backend
stuff yet?
don't know about Fedora-KDE, but upstream is working on Virtuoso backend for
4.4
http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/virtuoso-for-real/
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12:16 p.m.
2009/10/10 Ariel Constenla-Haile <ariel.constenla.haile(a)googlemail.com>:
Hello Anne,
On Saturday 10 October 2009, 05:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I know there have been problems, but are we any nearer getting the backend
> stuff yet?
don't know about Fedora-KDE, but upstream is working on Virtuoso backend for
4.4
http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/virtuoso-for-real/
rdieter had a try out on it. It was "working" so far and will hit
kde-unstable from what he wrote in IRC. So we can play with it ;)
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12:31 p.m.
Thomas Janssen wrote:
rdieter had a try out on it. It was "working" so far
and will hit
kde-unstable from what he wrote in IRC. So we can
play with it
;)
FYI:
virtuoso-opensource
virtuoso-opensource-apps
virtuoso-opensource-conductor
virtuoso-opensource-utils
are already in the repo, assuming you are using f11.92
(rawhide), as I am.
I installed the first: it gives me ratings, comments
and tags in the dolphin information panel.
I guess I should see about installing some of the other
virtuosi to see if there is something more useful
possible.
12:41 p.m.
2009/10/10 Petrus de Calguarium <kwhiskerz(a)gmail.com>:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
> rdieter had a try out on it. It was "working" so far
and will hit
> kde-unstable from what he wrote in IRC. So we can
play with it ;)
FYI:
virtuoso-opensource
virtuoso-opensource-apps
virtuoso-opensource-conductor
virtuoso-opensource-utils
We're speaking of the Soprano Backend.
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1:54 p.m.
Thomas Janssen wrote:
We're speaking of the Soprano Backend.
Just following the discussion. The trueg.wordpress.com
link provided earlier in this thread refers to virtuoso
and virtuosobackend (not that I have a clue what the
difference is between all of this stuff -- just trying
to learn how to get it working and whether it actually
does anything useful, which, as yet, remains to be
seen, given the lack of evidence so far).
For reference:
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
don't know about Fedora-KDE, but upstream is working
on Virtuoso backend for 4.4
http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/virtuoso-for-
real/
6:17 p.m.
Hello Petrus,
On Saturday 10 October 2009, 15:54, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
> We're speaking of the Soprano Backend.
Just following the discussion. The trueg.wordpress.com
link provided earlier in this thread refers to virtuoso
and virtuosobackend (not that I have a clue what the
difference is between all of this stuff --
this week there have been some blogs about Nepomuk at al.
http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/akonadi-nepomuk-and-strigi-...
http://tokoe-kde.blogspot.com/2009/09/pimp-my-nepomuk.html
http://mat69.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/nepomuk-is-useful-but-is-it-useable
just trying to learn how to get it working
you won't make the Virtuoso backend work, it depends on
KDE trunk (= you have to download the source from SVN
and build it yourself).
You can test which backend Nepomuk is using by perfoming
on a terminal (with Nepomuk running, of course )
qdbus org.kde.NepomukStorage /nepomukstorage usedSopranoBackend
in Fedora this will output
redland
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6:38 p.m.
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
this week there have been some blogs about Nepomuk
at al.
I will have a gander. As always (after all, I always
use fedora-testing, kde-unstable or rawhide), I am
curious about the marvels that await :-)
I am not up to building packages from source from SVN
and the like. I will wait until the packages provided
by this distro reach that level of maturity.
Yes, the command did output 'redland'.
Thanks kindly.
7:44 p.m.
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
you won't make the Virtuoso backend work, it depends on
KDE trunk (= you have to download the source from SVN
and build it yourself).
Which is a painful arduous task even with the kdesvn-build scripts, if you
don't know what you're doign... aka, i've been trying to make this happen
for a week ^_^
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12:22 p.m.
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
you won't make the Virtuoso backend work, it depends on
KDE trunk (= you have to download the source from SVN
and build it yourself).
No, it doesn't need KDE trunk, only Soprano trunk. rdieter is going to put
that into kde-redhat unstable too.
Kevin Kofler
12:50 p.m.
Hello Kevin,
On Sunday 11 October 2009, 14:22, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> you won't make the Virtuoso backend work, it depends on
> KDE trunk (= you have to download the source from SVN
> and build it yourself).
No, it doesn't need KDE trunk, only Soprano trunk.
yes, it does:
"...And then once you have updated your *kdebase* copy to the latest *trunk*
... "
http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/virtuoso-for-real/
in the last week there have been several changes in kdebase/runtime/nepomuk
... and kdebase from trunk depends on kdelibs from trunk, so you need kde
trunk. Resume: you need at least kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase from KDE
trunk, and a recent snapshot of Virtuoso.
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4:57 p.m.
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
"...And then once you have updated your *kdebase* copy to the
latest
*trunk* ... "
http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/virtuoso-for-real/
Yet...
http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/virtuoso-for-real/#comment-623
| Alejandro Nova
| The question that everyone is asking now:
| May we use Soprano 2.3.63 with KDE 4.3? This is the solution for all
| NEPOMUK headaches with Fedora.
|
| Sebastian Trüg
| Soprano 2.4 is fully backwards compatible, so yes.
in the last week there have been several changes in
kdebase/runtime/nepomuk ... and kdebase from trunk depends on kdelibs from
trunk, so you need kde trunk
If any of the bugfixes from:
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/runtime/nepomuk/?view=log
are actually needed, we can just backport them. In fact I think building
just kdebase/runtime/nepomuk from trunk should just work (but building parts
of kdebase-runtime is of course a bit more work than cmake; make; make
install; the simplest way is for us to simply patch our kdebase-runtime
package).
Kevin Kofler
10:32 p.m.
Hello Kevin,
On Sunday 11 October 2009, 18:57, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> in the last week there have been several changes in
> kdebase/runtime/nepomuk ... and kdebase from trunk depends on kdelibs
> from trunk, so you need kde trunk
If any of the bugfixes from:
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/runtime/nepomuk/?view=log
are actually needed, we can just backport them. In fact I think building
just kdebase/runtime/nepomuk from trunk should just work (but building
parts of kdebase-runtime is of course a bit more work than cmake; make;
make install;
/me dummy cmake && make && make install
Last time I mixed libraries from trunk and a branch I ended up with kdevelop
and dolphin crashing every time; so I do a clean build (not every week, I'm
not that freak - I'm still running a KDE/4.3.69 svn-1027783; 2009-09-23).
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11:19 p.m.
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
/me dummy cmake && make && make install
Isn't it bad form to build as root? :-)
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11:33 p.m.
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
/me no root: install & run from /home/ariel/kdetrunk
Aha, I should've known that... :-)
Bedtime I suppose
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