which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
-- Rex ________________________________________ From: kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org kde-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org on behalf of Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 1:32 PM To: kde@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: fc22 - howto resize windows?
My windows have visible borders, I just can't grab any of them. This used to work (with Plasma 5). Is there some setting I may have inadvertently turned off? I can't see anything obvious in Settings.
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much. Switched back to Breeze and it turns out it's exactly the same, i.e. the problem isn't with the grabbing but with knowing you can grab. I don't know if this is supposed to be a feature or a bug.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much. Switched back to Breeze and it turns out it's exactly the same, i.e. the problem isn't with the grabbing but with knowing you can grab. I don't know if this is supposed to be a feature or a bug.
poc
Yes, there's no visual indication. I did find out how to change border to 'huge', which let me grab. But the border is not drawn in a distinct way.
Usability wise, this is really pretty bad.
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 07:44 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much. Switched back to Breeze and it turns out it's exactly the same, i.e. the problem isn't with the grabbing but with knowing you can grab. I don't know if this is supposed to be a feature or a bug.
poc
Yes, there's no visual indication. I did find out how to change border to 'huge', which let me grab. But the border is not drawn in a distinct way.
Usability wise, this is really pretty bad.
Yes, it certainly doesn't comply with the Principle Of Least Astonishment. I wonder what is the justification for this apparently arbitrary change.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
-- rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
-- rex
I was using whatever was on kde live f22 TC2 iso
On 05/08/2015 07:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
Check which cursor theme you're using. Adwaita seems broken in this regard, but Breeze and Breeze Snow work correctly.
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 07:53 -0500, Glenn Holmer wrote:
On 05/08/2015 07:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
Check which cursor theme you're using. Adwaita seems broken in this regard, but Breeze and Breeze Snow work correctly.
As I said earlier, I'm using Breeze.
poc
On 05/09/15 05:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 07:53 -0500, Glenn Holmer wrote:
On 05/08/2015 07:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
Check which cursor theme you're using. Adwaita seems broken in this regard, but Breeze and Breeze Snow work correctly.
As I said earlier, I'm using Breeze.
YMMV, but here is what I did....
1. Installed an alternate cursor theme. In my case, PolarCursor Theme. Tried each of the 3 newly installed themes none worked as expected.
2. Switched back to Breeze and what do you know? The cursor shape changes to what you'd expect when you're over the borders. Even get the cursor style for corners now as well.
Strange....
On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 10:28 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 05/09/15 05:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 07:53 -0500, Glenn Holmer wrote:
On 05/08/2015 07:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
Check which cursor theme you're using. Adwaita seems broken in this regard, but Breeze and Breeze Snow work correctly.
As I said earlier, I'm using Breeze.
YMMV, but here is what I did....
Installed an alternate cursor theme. In my case, PolarCursor Theme. Tried each of the 3 newly installed themes none worked as expected.
Switched back to Breeze and what do you know? The cursor shape changes to what you'd expect when you're over the borders. Even get the cursor style for corners now as well.
I have to eat my words. My *Cursor* theme was set to Adwaita, even though the window decoration theme was Breeze. When I switched the cursor theme to Breeze it all worked.
poc
On 8 May 2015 at 13:53, Glenn Holmer cenbe@kolabnow.com wrote:
On 05/08/2015 07:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
Check which cursor theme you're using. Adwaita seems broken in this regard, but Breeze and Breeze Snow work correctly.
This is interesting, I've checked F22 Final TC4, by default 'Breeze' is selected as the cursor theme, but the resize arrows don't work. Changing to Adwaita then back to Breeze fixes it. That's on a freshly installed system. On the live system there aren't resize arrows, I didn't check which cursor theme was selected.
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 07:28 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
kwin-5.3.0-2.fc21.x86_64
poc
On 05/08/2015 06:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
-- rex
Pretty much the same here - kwin 5.3.0-2, breeze. Also , the arrow cursor changes back and forth from the "softer" arrow to the more angular one in different locations around window borders.
On 05/09/15 10:40, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 05/08/2015 06:28 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 18:39 +0000, Rex Dieter wrote:
which window decoration are you using? Try a different one?
Breeze. Changed to Oxygen and found I could grab the borders but the cursor wasn't indicating as much.
My cursor changes, odd.
Are you using kwin-5.3.0-2 ? (It included a fix wrt cursors vs 5.3.0-1)
-- rex
Pretty much the same here - kwin 5.3.0-2, breeze. Also , the arrow cursor changes back and forth from the "softer" arrow to the more angular one in different locations around window borders
FWIW, see my previous message about what I did to get the cursor to change shape as you'd expect.
Also, I installed and switched to the air-oxygen window decorations and the polishedstones theme and borders are now visible/apparent.
Yes, lots of fiddling. :-(
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