3:27 a.m.
Every time I start Fedora it loads Dolphin, which I don't want.
Where should I look for it doing that (so I can stop it)?
I also notice that, even though I've closed it, there's still a (small)
dolphin process running... what's that about?
Thanks in advance
Mark
5:08 a.m.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 09:27 +0100, Mark @ GMail wrote:
Every time I start Fedora it loads Dolphin, which I don't want.
Where should I look for it doing that (so I can stop it)?
I also notice that, even though I've closed it, there's still a (small)
dolphin process running... what's that about?
See
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.o...
and also a thread on the KDE Bugzilla:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418322
poc
12:47 p.m.
Thanks for that Patrick.
I followed those suggestions, I think.
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do
the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is
still starting Dolphin.
I can't tell from the Bugzilla thread whether the issue is resolved
upstream. I guess not.
Mark
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 11:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 09:27 +0100, Mark @ GMail wrote:
> Every time I start Fedora it loads Dolphin, which I don't want.
>
> Where should I look for it doing that (so I can stop it)?
>
> I also notice that, even though I've closed it, there's still a
> (small)
> dolphin process running... what's that about?
See
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.o...
and also a thread on the KDE Bugzilla:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418322
poc
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2:36 p.m.
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't
do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but
something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
--
Garry T. Williams
2:48 p.m.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 15:36 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
> should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't
> do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but
> something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Nope, doesn't work. All sorts of things have been tried (see the
Bugzilla thread). Some of them seem to work some of the time for some
people, but nothing works all the time for everyone.
poc
3:07 p.m.
On Monday, September 7, 2020 3:48:29 PM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 15:36 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> > I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in
> > (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when
> > that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from
> > /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
>
> Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Nope, doesn't work. All sorts of things have been tried (see the
Bugzilla thread). Some of them seem to work some of the time for
some people, but nothing works all the time for everyone.
I can only say that it was effective on three systems I own all
running (now) F32. Yes, when I upgraded, that file came back and the
unwanted Dophin instance at start-up time came back. But after
removing the file, the auto-start of Dolphin was gone for me on all
three systems. It may be that killing the dolphin --daemon process
before logging out is needed, too. But I do not see Dophin at
start-up or login time any more.
--
Garry T. Williams
4:40 p.m.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 16:07 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 3:48:29 PM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 15:36 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> > > I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in
> > > (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when
> > > that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from
> > > /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
> >
> > Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>
> Nope, doesn't work. All sorts of things have been tried (see the
> Bugzilla thread). Some of them seem to work some of the time for
> some people, but nothing works all the time for everyone.
I can only say that it was effective on three systems I own all
running (now) F32. Yes, when I upgraded, that file came back and the
unwanted Dophin instance at start-up time came back. But after
removing the file, the auto-start of Dolphin was gone for me on all
three systems. It may be that killing the dolphin --daemon process
before logging out is needed, too. But I do not see Dophin at
start-up or login time any more.
We probably have a difference in requirements. I do want to start some
Dolphin windows on login, but I always get an extra one and there's no
way to get rid of it other than killing it every time.
poc
4:53 p.m.
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
> should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't
> do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but
> something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your ~/.config/autostart directory
and add the
Hidden=true directive.
--
The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.
5:40 p.m.
On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
>> I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
>> should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that
>> didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg,
>> but something is still starting Dolphin.
> Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the
dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your
~/.config/autostart directory and add the
Hidden=true directive.
OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
$ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
dolphin-...
$ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin
...
$ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
I still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The
dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Thank you, Ed.
--
Garry T. Williams
3:26 a.m.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:40 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> > > I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
> > > should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that
> > > didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg,
> > > but something is still starting Dolphin.
> > Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>
> Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the
> dolphin package.
>
> You can override the behavior by copying the file to your
> ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
>
> Hidden=true directive.
OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
$ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
dolphin-...
$ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin
...
$ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
I still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The
dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Try it after saving your session with at least one Dolphin window.
poc
7:42 a.m.
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:26:01 AM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:40 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> > > > I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
> > > > should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that
> > > > didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg,
> > > > but something is still starting Dolphin.
> > > Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> >
> > Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the
> > dolphin package.
> >
> > You can override the behavior by copying the file to your
> > ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
> >
> > Hidden=true directive.
>
> OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
>
> $ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> dolphin-...
> $ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin
> ...
> $ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
>
> I still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The
> dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Try it after saving your session with at least one Dolphin window.
Just did that and only the one instance of Dolphin was restarted.
This (masking /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop) is
effective. It eliminates any auto-start copy of Dolphin for me.
--
Garry T. Williams
10:30 a.m.
On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 08:42 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:26:01 AM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:40 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
> > > > > I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in
(that
> > > > > should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when
that
> > > > > didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from
/etc/xdg,
> > > > > but something is still starting Dolphin.
> > > > Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> > >
> > > Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the
> > > dolphin package.
> > >
> > > You can override the behavior by copying the file to your
> > > ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
> > >
> > > Hidden=true directive.
> >
> > OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
> >
> > $ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> > dolphin-...
> > $ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin
> > ...
> > $ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
> >
> > I still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The
> > dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
>
> Try it after saving your session with at least one Dolphin window.
Just did that and only the one instance of Dolphin was restarted.
This (masking /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop) is
effective. It eliminates any auto-start copy of Dolphin for me.
Just to double-check, I reinstalled Dolphin, linked to /dev/null as
above, saved the session with the correct number of Dolphin windows,
logged out and logged in again.
I still get an extra window.
poc
2:45 p.m.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:47 +0100, Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do
the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is
still starting Dolphin.
I can't tell from the Bugzilla thread whether the issue is resolved
upstream. I guess not.
[Please don't top-post]
It's not resolved and is still annoying.
poc
5:19 a.m.
On Monday, September 7, 2020 8:45:00 PM WET Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
It's not resolved and is still annoying.
poc
Now it is fixed. At least on F33, where I am now.
Thank you to all the involved. :-)
I noticed the mention first in Nate Graham's blog "This week in KDE" and
actually this week I missed a new dolphin instance always showing up at start.
Let us call this the Stockholm Syndrome. :-D
Best regards,
--
José Abílio
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