Hey folks! I did mention this in my mails explaining the 'compose check reports' to test@ and devel@, but in case anyone isn't following those, I thought I'd mention it here too. Lately, openQA tests of Fedora 25 KDE seem to be crashing quite often during KDE startup. Here are three that crashed just in testing of today's nightly compose: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/44206 https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/44216 https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/44278 As a simple openQA primer, the fact that you see a screenshot of a black screen with a red border around the screenshot in the thumbnail sequence, shortly after a screenshot of the KDE startup splash screen, means the test failed because instead of seeing a clean KDE desktop (like it was expecting), it saw a black screen. After that it switches to a console so it can upload some logs for us. You can watch videos of each test by switching to the Logs & Assets tab and clicking Video, but that's all they'll show you - at some point during the test KDE tries to start up but sticks at a black screen. The subsequent switch to a console is done by the test system by pressing ctrl-alt-f6 or ctrl-alt-f2, it's not a part of the failure mode. Note the videos are sped up - in reality the system sat at the black screen for around 5 minutes in each case (that's the timeout on the 'wait for a clean KDE desktop to appear' step). More interestingly on the Logs & Assets tab you can find various uploaded log files. The most useful one is probably 44216: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/44216#downloads because there you can find an ABRT problem directory for the crash, in https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/44216/file/_graphical_wait_login -spoolabrt.tar.gz . You can also find the entire contents of /var/log in the var_log.tar.gz file. I'll try looking into this a bit more manually too - see if I can reproduce it in a virt-manager VM and on bare metal - but it'd be great if anyone else can help figure out what's going on. The openQA test VMs are direct runs of qemu (libvirt is not used) with the 'qxl' graphics driver. openQA interacts with the VM via qemu's built-in VNC server. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net