Since a couple of updates and weeks ago (F14, don't remember exactly when, sorry) the KDE wireless applet stopped doing its work.
When I click on it and choose to connect to my wireless router, it asks for a passphrase (WPA), and then hangs in "waiting for authorization" state forever, without connecting.
After some troubleshooting, I figured I can use the nm-applet from Gnome, after I disable a couple of services in the KDE service manager (namely, the "NetworkManager User Setting Service" and "Network Status"). If I don't disable them, nm-applet fails to run, saying another instance is already running (which is wrong, btw). I suspect one of these services are simulating the presence of nm-applet to prevent it from running concurrently.
Anyway, when the services are disabled, nm-applet is running and connects to my router without any problems.
The issue is that this is a workaround, and that default KDE configuration used to work flawlessly until some point.
I also tried to connect to other wireless networks (open, wep, wpa...) to check if it's something related to my router, but the symptoms are the same everywhere.
Is this a known issue? Am I the only one seeing it? How can I troubleshoot it? I was monitoring /var/log/messages while trying to connect, but nothing there points to the problem, AFAICT.
Btw, when nm-applet is running, the KDE applet in the taskbar correctly reports the state of the wireless interface, and appears to coexist nicely with nm-applet.
From what I understand, the NetworkManager service is running correctly, nm- applet is also running correctly, but something within KDE went to lunch...
Any ideas?
TIA, :-) Marko
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 15:46:17 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Since a couple of updates and weeks ago (F14, don't remember exactly when, sorry) the KDE wireless applet stopped doing its work.
When I click on it and choose to connect to my wireless router, it asks for a passphrase (WPA), and then hangs in "waiting for authorization" state forever, without connecting.
I forgot to mention, the KDE applet should not ask me for the passphrase, it already knows it and should just use it automatically. That's how it worked until a couple of weeks ago.
Now it opens the dialog where the proper passphrase is already filled in, and requires me to click on the OK button, after which it hangs in that waiting state.
:-) Marko
On 03/22/2011 10:51 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 15:46:17 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Since a couple of updates and weeks ago (F14, don't remember exactly when, sorry) the KDE wireless applet stopped doing its work.
When I click on it and choose to connect to my wireless router, it asks for a passphrase (WPA), and then hangs in "waiting for authorization" state forever, without connecting.
I forgot to mention, the KDE applet should not ask me for the passphrase, it already knows it and should just use it automatically. That's how it worked until a couple of weeks ago.
Now it opens the dialog where the proper passphrase is already filled in, and requires me to click on the OK button, after which it hangs in that waiting state.
rpm -q kde-plasma-networkmanagement please.
You may be interested in trying this test update if you don't already have it, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.3...
-- Rex
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 16:00:28 Rex Dieter wrote:
On 03/22/2011 10:51 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 15:46:17 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Since a couple of updates and weeks ago (F14, don't remember exactly when, sorry) the KDE wireless applet stopped doing its work.
When I click on it and choose to connect to my wireless router, it asks for a passphrase (WPA), and then hangs in "waiting for authorization" state forever, without connecting.
I forgot to mention, the KDE applet should not ask me for the passphrase, it already knows it and should just use it automatically. That's how it worked until a couple of weeks ago.
Now it opens the dialog where the proper passphrase is already filled in, and requires me to click on the OK button, after which it hangs in that waiting state.
rpm -q kde-plasma-networkmanagement please.
Sure, here goes:
# rpm -q kde-plasma-networkmanagement kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.35.20110221.fc14.x86_64
As far as yum can tell, it is the latest stable package for F14. :-)
You may be interested in trying this test update if you don't already have it, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0. 39.20110314.fc14
Umm, I am somehow reluctant to use test updates before they reach stable. The nm-applet works around the problem for now, and I'll keep trying the KDE applet whenever I see any KDE-related update.
The point is that this is my home (production) desktop system, so I don't want to experiment with packages until they reach stable repo. If this one depends on some other that is also not stable, I may end up pulling a lot of dependencies from testing, and I'd like to avoid that if possible. ;-)
Best, :-) Marko
On 03/22/2011 12:43 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
You may be interested in trying this test update if you don't already have it, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0. 39.20110314.fc14
Umm, I am somehow reluctant to use test updates before they reach stable. The nm-applet works around the problem for now, and I'll keep trying the KDE applet whenever I see any KDE-related update.
That update addresses the problem(s) you describe (ie, using non kwallet-backed secrets).
-- Rex
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 18:12:46 Rex Dieter wrote:
On 03/22/2011 12:43 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
You may be interested in trying this test update if you don't already have it, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9 -0. 39.20110314.fc14
Umm, I am somehow reluctant to use test updates before they reach stable. The nm-applet works around the problem for now, and I'll keep trying the KDE applet whenever I see any KDE-related update.
That update addresses the problem(s) you describe (ie, using non kwallet-backed secrets).
Oh, that's great! :-) In that case I'll try it out tomorrow, and see how it goes.
Thanks! :-) Marko
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 10:27:32 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 18:12:46 Rex Dieter wrote:
On 03/22/2011 12:43 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
You may be interested in trying this test update if you don't already have it, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0 .9 -0. 39.20110314.fc14
Umm, I am somehow reluctant to use test updates before they reach stable. The nm-applet works around the problem for now, and I'll keep trying the KDE applet whenever I see any KDE-related update.
That update addresses the problem(s) you describe (ie, using non kwallet-backed secrets).
Oh, that's great! :-) In that case I'll try it out tomorrow, and see how it goes.
I found out that the update has been pushed to stable already. Tried it, and it works perfectly! :-)
Thanks a lot!
Best, :-) Marko
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Umm, I am somehow reluctant to use test updates before they reach stable. The nm-applet works around the problem for now, and I'll keep trying the KDE applet whenever I see any KDE-related update.
Well, the linked update should actually FIX the issue you're experiencing. And if not, it can hardly break things more than they already are, can it? ;-)
If this one depends on some other that is also not stable, I may end up pulling a lot of dependencies from testing, and I'd like to avoid that if possible. ;-)
That kde-plasma-networkmanagement update should not depend on any other updates from testing.
Kevin Kofler
Hi Marko,
Where do you store your passwords? I've had similar behavior and noticed that KWallet works much better than plain text file storage.
Christos.
On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 04:51:54 PM Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 15:46:17 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Since a couple of updates and weeks ago (F14, don't remember exactly when, sorry) the KDE wireless applet stopped doing its work.
When I click on it and choose to connect to my wireless router, it asks for a passphrase (WPA), and then hangs in "waiting for authorization" state forever, without connecting.
I forgot to mention, the KDE applet should not ask me for the passphrase, it already knows it and should just use it automatically. That's how it worked until a couple of weeks ago.
Now it opens the dialog where the proper passphrase is already filled in, and requires me to click on the OK button, after which it hangs in that waiting state.
:-)
Marko
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On Tuesday 22 March 2011 16:19:58 Christos Lazaridis wrote:
Where do you store your passwords? I've had similar behavior and noticed that KWallet works much better than plain text file storage.
Well, this might be relevant --- I am not using KWallet, everything is stored in plain text file (whichever that file is by default).
The thing is, I am the only user of this machine, and I have a whole chain of passwordless things happening --- autologin into KDE on boot, automatic connecting to wireless (which now doesn't work), autostart of skype, firefox, kmail, which then automatically log in to various other things on the net, check mail for me, etc...
Basically, I boot up the machine, make some breakfast, and walk back into a fully working system which has logged into everything, checked my e-mail, started downloading torrents, etc.
The thing is, somehow I could not make KWallet work without explicitly asking for the password on every boot. This basically breaks the whole setup, so I have shut it down and used the plain-text version, which Just Works, no questions asked. Maybe KWallet could be beaten into compliance somehow, but it wasn't obvious and I didn't bother to do research about that. Shutting it down was just simpler to configure.
OTOH, I have the problem with KDE network applet even when connecting to new AP's, for the first time, when I am supposed to be asked for a password and provide it. The applet simply never finishes configuring the wireless IP etc. So my guess is that this issue is independent of my KWallet configuration.
Best, :-) Marko
On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 06:57:03 PM Marko Vojinovic wrote:
OTOH, I have the problem with KDE network applet even when connecting to new AP's, for the first time, when I am supposed to be asked for a password and provide it. The applet simply never finishes configuring the wireless IP etc. So my guess is that this issue is independent of my KWallet configuration.
Don't count on it! By coincidence, I had this precise problem yesterday when I was configuring a friend's wireless for a first time ;)
I switched to KWallet, configured it so that it would not ask for a password and on the next connection attempt it worked!
cheers, Christos.
On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 06:57:03 PM Marko Vojinovic wrote:
OTOH, I have the problem with KDE network applet even when connecting to new AP's, for the first time, when I am supposed to be asked for a password and provide it. The applet simply never finishes configuring the wireless IP etc. So my guess is that this issue is independent of my KWallet configuration.
Don't count on it! By coincidence, I had this precise problem yesterday when I was configuring a friend's wireless for a first time ;)
I switched to KWallet, configured it so that it would not ask for a password and on the next connection attempt it worked!
cheers, Christos.
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
The thing is, somehow I could not make KWallet work without explicitly asking for the password on every boot.
Change your wallet password to the empty string and it won't prompt you for a password ever again.
So my guess is that this issue is independent of my KWallet configuration.
It's actually not. We found a regression with plaintext password storage in kde-plasma-networkmanagement, a fix is already in updates-testing (which is why we want you to try that testing update).
Kevin Kofler
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 21:06:59 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
The thing is, somehow I could not make KWallet work without explicitly asking for the password on every boot.
Change your wallet password to the empty string and it won't prompt you for a password ever again.
So my guess is that this issue is independent of my KWallet configuration.
It's actually not. We found a regression with plaintext password storage in kde-plasma-networkmanagement, a fix is already in updates-testing (which is why we want you to try that testing update).
Right, I'll try it out then (tomorrow when I get home), and I'll report what happens. :-)
Thanks! :-) Marko
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