I need to add:

4) In LyX (a Qt app) the window becomes transparent and flickers when cursor moves (Under Wayland/GNOME) no bug report could be found.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:53 PM mario futire mariofutire@gmail.com wrote:

There are outstanding issues in all Qt apps when they run in the default Fedora 31 desktop which is GNOME / Wayland.

1. Drag & Drop does not work (

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1774762, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80303) 2) Qt creator become almost useless without drag & drop 3) Window geometry cannot be restored ( https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80612)

All in all it makes a very bad user experience with what is a big GUI framework in the default F31 desktop.

I think the major issue is that these bugs end up in no man's land:

1. Qt GNOME X11: all fine
2. Qt KDE Wayland: all fine

So is the bug in Qt? Mutter? Wayland? Users are not even aware of what is a Qt app and what not.

I have written in the main users mailing list and was told to try here

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/...

I think that in this state Qt apps should not be allowed to run in Wayland under GNOME (by default).

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Hi,

On pondělí 9. prosince 2019 14:53:40 CET mario futire wrote:

There are outstanding issues in all Qt apps when they run in the default Fedora 31 desktop which is GNOME / Wayland.

1. Drag & Drop does not work

(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1774762, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80303)

2) Qt creator become almost

useless without drag & drop

Both are same bug. I understand that non working drag and drop is a problem. I will try to investigate.

3. Window geometry cannot be restored

(https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80612)

This is a wayland limitation, apps are not allowed to position themself.

All in all it makes a very bad user experience with what is a big GUI framework in the default F31 desktop.

I think the major issue is that these bugs end up in no man's land:

1. Qt GNOME X11: all fine
2. Qt KDE Wayland: all fine

So is the bug in Qt? Mutter? Wayland? Users are not even aware of what is a Qt app and what not.

I have written in the main users mailing list and was told to try here https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/ thread/EDLBJZENMUQ5W6OXJPS3G237OHIEBHXA/

I think that in this state Qt apps should not be allowed to run in Wayland under GNOME (by default).

What do you think?

I think that when Gnome decided to switch to Wayland, there was way more issues and the move to switch Wayland actually helped Wayland adoption a lot. Every major change has issues at the beginnings and we are constantly working to make it better.

Regards, Jan