9:32 a.m.
Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost impossible?
Sometimes a single click opens a program twice, sometimes a single click will not
tick/untick a button until it is done 4 or 5 times, sometimes it is almost impossible
to drop down a drop-down menu with a mouse click, etc.
9:40 a.m.
On 05/26/2012 10:32 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost
impossible?
Sometimes a single click opens a program twice, sometimes a single click will not
tick/untick a button until it is done 4 or 5 times, sometimes it is almost impossible
to drop down a drop-down menu with a mouse click, etc.
No, not a single problem here. Time to clean your mouse? Change the batteries?
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9:57 a.m.
On 05/26/2012 10:52 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
> No, not a single problem here. Time to clean your mouse? Change the
> batteries?
>
No batteries, cable. Seems fine.
Uses a little red light to read. Seems fine.
Maybe it's acting up? I don't think so, but could be. No way to know.
You mean you don't have 3 or 4 mice hidden in a drawer somewhere? I even have a
non-optical mouse from years ago. :-)
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10:12 a.m.
Ed Greshko wrote:
You mean you don't have 3 or 4 mice hidden in a drawer somewhere?
I even
have a
non-optical mouse from years ago. :-)
OK, I do have one mouse in a drawer :-) I bought it the very same day as this one (a
couple of years ago). This one is USB and the other is PS/2. That's the only
difference. I had bought it, because the old motherboard on my desktop computer had a
PS/2 jack. I do have an adaptor, so I could try it on this computer (I changed the
motherboard about 18 months ago), so there is only USB now.
6:30 a.m.
Peter Gueckel wrote:
OK, I do have one mouse in a drawer :-) I bought it the very same day
as
this one (a couple of years ago). This one is USB and the other is PS/2.
That's the only difference. I had bought it, because the old motherboard
on my desktop computer had a PS/2 jack. I do have an adaptor, so I could
try it on this computer (I changed the motherboard about 18 months ago),
so there is only USB now.
A bit OT, but I have a drawer full of PS/2 mice.
I tried a cheapo PS/2 to USB adaptor some time ago,
but it didn't seem to work.
I was told at my local electronic store that I needed
a PS/2 to USB _converter_, which costs several times as much as a mouse ...
More seriously, my favourite HP LaserJet 5L with a Centronics connector
has been idle for a couple of years, since the last machine
with a Centronics socket went to the computer graveyard.
I've often wondered if a simple Centronics to USB adaptor could work?
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7:28 a.m.
On 05/27/2012 11:30 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
<>
I was told at my local electronic store that I needed
a PS/2 to USB _converter_, which costs several times as much as a mouse
-=-
converter is correct.
More seriously, my favourite HP LaserJet 5L with a Centronics
connector
has been idle for a couple of years, since the last machine with a
Centronics socket went to the computer graveyard. I've often wondered
if a simple Centronics to USB adaptor could work?
-=-
an HP LaserJet 5L uses a centronics _type_ connector, but it uses a different
communication standard then what centronics is.
it uses ieee 1284, a bi-directional parallel communications and requires
higher quality and shorter length cables than centronics. see;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284
if you wish to put the HP LaserJet 5L back in service, do not use a
centronics/usb adapter. get an ieee 1284 card.
hth.
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g wrote:
> More seriously, my favourite HP LaserJet 5L with a Centronics
connector
> has been idle for a couple of years, since the last machine with a
> Centronics socket went to the computer graveyard. I've often wondered
> if a simple Centronics to USB adaptor could work?
an HP LaserJet 5L uses a centronics _type_ connector, but it uses a
different communication standard then what centronics is.
...
if you wish to put the HP LaserJet 5L back in service, do not use a
centronics/usb adapter. get an ieee 1284 card.
Thanks very much.
I see I can get such a card very cheaply on eBay ...
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8:58 a.m.
On 05/27/2012 12:58 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
<>
g wrote:
>> More seriously, my favourite HP LaserJet 5L with a Centronics connector
>> has been idle for a couple of years, since the last machine with a
>> Centronics socket went to the computer graveyard. I've often wondered
>> if a simple Centronics to USB adaptor could work?
>
> an HP LaserJet 5L uses a centronics _type_ connector, but it uses a
> different communication standard then what centronics is.
...
> if you wish to put the HP LaserJet 5L back in service, do not use a
> centronics/usb adapter. get an ieee 1284 card.
Thanks very much.
-=-
welcome.
I see I can get such a card very cheaply on eBay ...
-=-
if you go with ebay, be sure you get a warranty.
before committing to an ebay purchase, i would check NewEgg and other
such that may have a good price and not have shipping charge.
also, insure that you can return card in case linux does recognize
card.
you should be able to use 'hplib' drivers. hp has very good linux drivers
and may well have what you need for an 'aged' printer.
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No problems here. Have you verified that the mouse itself is not the problem?
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Peter Gueckel <pgueckel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost impossible?
Sometimes a single click opens a program twice, sometimes a single click will not
tick/untick a button until it is done 4 or 5 times, sometimes it is almost impossible
to drop down a drop-down menu with a mouse click, etc.
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9:53 a.m.
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost
impossible?
Sometimes a single click opens a program twice, sometimes a single click will not
tick/untick a button until it is done 4 or 5 times, sometimes it is almost impossible
to drop down a drop-down menu with a mouse click, etc.
Happens here too for about a week. I thought my mouse was dirty or
dying. Interesting to see someone else having the same problem in the
same time frame.
Orcan
10:06 a.m.
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
Happens here too for about a week. I thought my mouse was dirty or
dying. Interesting to see someone else having the same problem in the
same time frame.
When I said "impossible to use" it was an exaggeration, but...
In Kmail, for example, I view emails in the preview pane, I click on the email
header to open it in the preview pane and quite often, it will now also open a new
window with the email displayed.
Sometimes, when I click the 'f' menu icon on the taskbar, the menu will rapidly
open
and close, even though I clicked only once.
When I use firefox and go to youtube to access the youtube dropdown menu on the
upper right, I have to press it many times before it will open.
When using google reader, to display an article when in header mode requires
multiple clicks to get it to open.
When using k3b for ripping some tracks from a CD, trying to tick/untick some songs
is almost impossible: the remain ticked despite numerous clicks, and it appears like
the check-mark image is rapidly flashing, as if a single mouse click is actually
registering numerous times.
I don't think it is my mouse. The problem has been getting worse for the last week
or a bit longer. I think that mouse clicks, sometimes, are read multiple times so
that the actions are duplicated or are done and immediately undone again.
This is what I meant by "impossible to use".
11:27 a.m.
On 05/26/2012 03:06 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
<>
When using k3b for ripping some tracks from a CD, trying to
tick/untick some
songs is almost impossible: the remain ticked despite numerous clicks, and
it appears like the check-mark image is rapidly flashing, as if a single
mouse click is actually registering numerous times.
-=-
altho current thru switch contacts is very low, thru the years of use,
contacts will become dirty. this does not make good conduction and can
cause problems as you are having.
I don't think it is my mouse. The problem has been getting worse
for the
last week or a bit longer.
-=-
"getting worse" could indicate that it is in the mouse and caused by
mechanical failure of the switch/switches. or cable.
I think that mouse clicks, sometimes, are read multiple times so that
the
actions are duplicated or are done and immediately undone again.
-=-
'double click interval' time can be changed in your mouse configuration
settings.
This is what I meant by "impossible to use".
-=-
then stop using problem mouse and try another mouse as already suggested.
in early days of mice, a 'micro switch' type switch was used. in time,
many mouse makers have moved to less expensive switches. many of which
do not have long actuation life.
a more common problem with 'wired' mice is where wire cable enters
housing and is clamped by some poor type of binding.
this can be checked by opening a program window with buttons and moving
pointer to button. then, holding offending button down on button and
wiggling and twisting cable. if button remains highlighted, cable may
be good. if it flashes, then you can presume it is cable.
years ago, i got tired of keeping an area cleared on desk to move mouse
around on [and other reasons] and bought a logitech thumb marble mouse.
from that day forward, 'mousing' has been nothing but pure pleasure.
long story short, 'bite the bullet', try another mouse.
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On 05/26/2012 07:55 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
<>
Good to know. I have long thought this could be what I want. Perhaps
I will
finally buy one.
-=-
you will not regret it when you do.
i have the "trackman marble", m/n t-ch11, p/n 804122-3000. no scroll wheel.
it has been replaced with "trackman wheel", t-bb18;
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/429/166
there is also a 'cordless' model, t-ra18;
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/429/159
i have had the t-bb18 for over 25 years. in that time, i have had numerous
friends and several clients try it. they have bought them, both corded and
cordless. all are happy.
a couple friends bought the microsoft 'imitation'. no go. they returned them
and bought the logitech. ;)
do note that the 'thumb marble' does collect dust/crud, just like a
standard mouse marble. this can be cleaned by removing 'marble' and
cleaning the three small bearing point with a small firm bristle brush.
so, have you tried a different mouse yet?
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5:12 p.m.
g wrote:
On 05/26/2012 07:55 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
<>
> Good to know. I have long thought this could be what I want. Perhaps I
> will finally buy one.
-=-
you will not regret it when you do.
i have the "trackman marble", m/n t-ch11, p/n 804122-3000. no scroll
wheel.
it has been replaced with "trackman wheel", t-bb18;
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/429/166
there is also a 'cordless' model, t-ra18;
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/429/159
i have had the t-bb18 for over 25 years. in that time, i have had numerous
friends and several clients try it. they have bought them, both corded and
cordless. all are happy.
a couple friends bought the microsoft 'imitation'. no go. they returned
them and bought the logitech. ;)
do note that the 'thumb marble' does collect dust/crud, just like a
standard mouse marble. this can be cleaned by removing 'marble' and
cleaning the three small bearing point with a small firm bristle brush.
Thanks for all the info. A local shop sells only:
Logitech Trackman Marble Trackball (wired), ambidexterous, but no wheel $40
Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball Mouse (wireless), for right hand, I guess, with
wheel $65
I am right-handed, but have used the mouse in my left hand for almost 10 years to
keep my right free for a pen/pencil.
I could see what some other shops have.
so, have you tried a different mouse yet?
Yeah. I just plugged in the ps/2 mouse with the usb adaptor and there are no
problems. I really didn't believe that the other mouse was wearing out, but this is
the proof.
6:23 p.m.
On 05/27/2012 06:12 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
Yeah. I just plugged in the ps/2 mouse with the usb adaptor and there
are no
problems. I really didn't believe that the other mouse was wearing out, but this is
the proof.
Sometimes the simple answer is the right one.....
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6:42 p.m.
On 2012/05/26 16:12 (GMT-0600) Peter Gueckel composed:
g wrote:
> so, have you tried a different mouse yet?
Yeah. I just plugged in the ps/2 mouse with the usb adaptor and there
are no
problems. I really didn't believe that the other mouse was wearing out, but this is
the proof.
If you're fond of the old one, and have less likable devices around, you
might try switch replacement. I've had to do that with my Marble F/X, since
nothing close to its perfection has ever been made since, and used ones are
insanely priced on eBay. You might be surprised to find switches from a $2
mouse fit just right and work the same as those from high priced models.
Before bothering trying to replace, you might want to hit the switches with
compressed gas and/or contact cleaner.
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4:51 p.m.
On 05/26/2012 08:08 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
<>
I just read that the software only works with Windows and Apple. I
never use
included software and things work in Fedora like I expect them to. Does this
mouse work in Fedora? I guess so, since you must be using it :-)
-=-
there are a lot of 'bells and whistles' in the apple and oos software.
none of which is needed for linux.
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10:09 a.m.
On 26/05/12 15:53, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost
> impossible? Sometimes a single click opens a program twice,
> sometimes a single click will not tick/untick a button until it is
> done 4 or 5 times, sometimes it is almost impossible to drop down a
> drop-down menu with a mouse click, etc.
>
Happens here too for about a week. I thought my mouse was dirty or
dying. Interesting to see someone else having the same problem in
the same time frame.
One of my mice stopped working, another is fine.
Anne
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10:31 a.m.
On Saturday 26 May 2012 08:32:02 Peter Gueckel wrote:
Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost
impossible? Sometimes a single click opens a program twice, sometimes a
single click will not tick/untick a button until it is done 4 or 5 times,
sometimes it is almost impossible to drop down a drop-down menu with a
mouse click, etc.
I don't notice it. But then I am using touchpad, not mouse (F16, fully
updated).
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6:49 a.m.
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Peter Gueckel <pgueckel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone noticed that for a bout a week mouse clicks are almost
impossible?
Sometimes a single click opens a program twice, sometimes a single click
will not
tick/untick a button until it is done 4 or 5 times, sometimes it is almost
impossible
to drop down a drop-down menu with a mouse click, etc.
It happened to me a couple of weeks back. I thought its a Fedora problem,
but when I used it on a Windows system, it was the same behaviour. Now I
have changed my mouse. But its such a coincidence that all of your problems
were mine as well. :)
Thanks,
Anoop
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