I've noticed that the Icon doesn't appear in the system tray for Plasma 5. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
I created a bug report on it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1218760
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
I've noticed that the Icon doesn't appear in the system tray for Plasma 5. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
I created a bug report on it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1218760
I can confirm, added my comments to the bug.
-- rex
Thanks Rex! At first I thought maybe this was intended to work only under GNOME, so I checked and found that firewalld (and firewall-applet which let's people easily configure it) are intended to be the default firewall solution for Fedora: *https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default *
I'm sure it must have just been an oversight, but really needs to be fixed.
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
I've noticed that the Icon doesn't appear in the system tray for Plasma
Has anyone else encountered this issue?
I created a bug report on it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1218760
I can confirm, added my comments to the bug.
-- rex
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On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Gerald B. Cox gbcox@bzb.us wrote:
I've noticed that the Icon doesn't appear in the system tray for Plasma 5. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
I created a bug report on it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1218760
I know it's probably too late now, but for future reference... should I have proposed this as a blocker bug? firewalld is suppose to the be "default firewall solution for Fedora" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default
The tray applet is the method used to configure, but isn't available for KDE Plasma.
Is the idea that since KDE isn't the default desktop for Fedora, that blocker doesn't apply? If you read the wiki for firewalld you will see that when it was proposed as the default, work was done to ensure it would work with KDE. Of course for Plasma 5, that wasn't done.
You can also of course go to kickoff and launch firewall configuration, but it's kind of obvious (at least IMO) from reading the wiki the intended method to check status and configure was the applet. It's prominently listed in the testing methodology.
What do you folks think?
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
I know it's probably too late now, but for future reference... should I have proposed this as a blocker bug? firewalld is suppose to the be "default firewall solution for Fedora" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default
In my opinion, it is not a blocker.
That said, I'd be greatly appreciative if the bug were addressed.
The tray applet is the method used to configure, but isn't available for KDE Plasma.
We don't install it by default in kde spin, do we?
-- Rex
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
In my opinion, it is not a blocker.
Rex, thanks for taking the time to reply... I'll defer to your judgement.
I did a check for critical path, etc... and if you do a dnf group info core, it is listed as a default package. If you check dnf group info kde, firewall-config is listed, which is firewalld (since that is now the Fedora default).
People who use this are going to wonder where the heck the tray icon is, since that was the documented way to access the firewall configuration.
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
In my opinion, it is not a blocker.
Rex, thanks for taking the time to reply... I'll defer to your judgement.
I did a check for critical path, etc... and if you do a dnf group info core, it is listed as a default package. If you check dnf group info kde, firewall-config is listed, which is firewalld (since that is now the Fedora default).
People who use this are going to wonder where the heck the tray icon is, since that was the documented way to access the firewall configuration.
I thought you were talking about firewall-applet here (not firewall-config).
-- rex
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
I thought you were talking about firewall-applet here (not firewall-config).
Yes, I am talking about firewall-applet... but it and firewall-config are all part of firewalld. firewall-applet is the way to access firewall-config.
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
I thought you were talking about firewall-applet here (not firewall-config).
Yes, I am talking about firewall-applet... but it and firewall-config are all part of firewalld. firewall-applet is the way to access firewall-config.
sure, however, I can confirm running firewall-config works fine
-- Rex
On 15 May 2015 at 21:48, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
I thought you were talking about firewall-applet here (not firewall-config).
Yes, I am talking about firewall-applet... but it and firewall-config are all part of firewalld. firewall-applet is the way to access firewall-config.
sure, however, I can confirm running firewall-config works fine
I'd never heard of firewall-applet before this thread started. I've always used firewall-config.
poc
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gmail.com
wrote:
I'd never heard of firewall-applet before this thread started. I've always used firewall-config.
Really? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-kde/2013-January/012158.htm...
On 15 May 2015 at 21:59, Gerald B. Cox gbcox@bzb.us wrote:
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan < pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd never heard of firewall-applet before this thread started. I've always used firewall-config.
Really? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-kde/2013-January/012158.htm...
Yes, I'm afraid I'd forgotten the question I asked over two years ago which was never answered.
poc
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I'm afraid I'd forgotten the question I asked over two years ago which was never answered.
No worries... it was an excellent question! I came across it in my search to try to get a handle on the history of the whole thing. The applet is a great idea (and I'm sure the developers agree, otherwise they wouldn't have taken the time to create it) - and it's purpose is detailed in the docs.
I got the impression the feeling was that since it worked fine under KDE there was no need to have a KDE specific version. Of course now, ahem, it isn't working. :-(
There are a whole slew of applications which managed to get it working, including Chrome/Chromium - so I do have faith that eventually, they'll get around to it.
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
sure, however, I can confirm running firewall-config works fine
Yeah, I can confirm that also. Must admit it took me a few moments to figure out how to configure the firewall, I've been spoiled by the applet.
Just trying to understand the rules and the associated precedent. Redhat has the bug report, so if they weren't aware of the issue and somehow missed Kevin's note, they definitely know now. There should be feature parity across desktops for applications designated as "default".
Thanks for taking the time to reply and your updates to the bug report.
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
There should be feature parity across desktops for applications designated as "default".
OK, so I guess part of the confusion for me here is the word default.
To me, "default" implies "installed by default", which is not true in this case. firewall-applet is not installed by default as far as I know.
-- Rex
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
To me, "default" implies "installed by default", which is not true in this case. firewall-applet is not installed by default as far as I know.
Interesting, firewalld, firewall-config and firewall-applet are all on my machine. You can indeed install each independently, removing of course is another matter, there are a few permutations of what you get depending on the order you do it
The documentation sure seems to me to indicate the intent is to have all three.
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