1:47 p.m.
On Thursday 22 April 2010 19:07:57 you wrote:
On 04/22/2010 08:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 22 April 2010 18:12:06 you wrote:
>> On 04/22/2010 08:01 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 17:30:18 you wrote:
>>>> On 04/22/2010 05:58 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>>> Reply to All / Reply to List
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 15:35:07 Rares Aioanei wrote:
>>>>>> [snip] Methinks you should file a bug including the screenshot
and
>>>>>> the output of lspci -vv, since I don'te personally see
nothing
>>>>>> amiss with the Xorg log.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll do that and post the number here.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And as a solution, yes, you may try to downgrade the Intel
driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just : xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-1.fc13.i686 and intel-gpu-
>>>>> tools-2.11.0-1.fc13.i686, or the xorg updates as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>> You may want to play safe and avoid any problems with library
>>>> dependencies, so
>>>> you should also include xorg-* .
>>>
>>> Hmm - sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this right. Asking for the
>>> downgrade, it says it will also remove
>>>
>>> xorg-x11-drivers xorg-x11-drv-fpit xorg-x11-drv-synaptics
>>> xorg-x11-drv- vmmouse and xorg-x11-drv-wacom
>>>
>>> Will these also automatically get replaced?
>>>
>>> Anne
>>
>> You are not a pain, we're all here to help each other. OTOH, you can
>> write these down and if they won't be
>> replaced, you can install them explicitly.
>
> I seem to be in a vicious circle here.
>
> Installing:
> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 fedora 7.8 k
> xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 updates-testing 14 k
> xorg-x11-drv-synaptics i686 1.2.2-2.fc13 updates-testing 61 k
> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 updates-testing 17 k
> xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 updates-testing 113 k
>
> Updating for dependencies:
> xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 1.3 M
> xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 60 k
>
> Back where I started.
>
> Downgrading:
> xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-4.fc13 fedora 1.3 M
> xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-4.fc13 fedora 59 k
>
> Removing for dependencies:
> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 @fedora 0.0
> xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 @updates-testing 14 k
> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 @updates-testing 19 k
> xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 @updates-testing 310 k
>
> so now I have to xorg-x11-drivers - and I daren't log out ;-) I know
> it's possible to specify a version, so if you can tell me the version
> before 7.3-14 I'll try to install that
>
> Anne
I'm not at a Fedora machine at the moment, but ls-ing your rpm database
(provided you haven't yum cleaned recently) should
show you the versions you need. Best of luck. :-)
There was no earlier version in my yum log. I've searched koji, and there's
only one F13 version. The log definitely shows it installed today, so what
was used for the same job before is anybody's guess. In the morning I'll
check the install DVD - see if it's there. Maybe it used an F12 one before
today.
I'll leave the laptop on overnight, and try again in the morning.
Anne
2:04 p.m.
New subject: New xorg update gives horrible display - long
On 04/22/2010 09:47 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 22 April 2010 19:07:57 you wrote:
> On 04/22/2010 08:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 18:12:06 you wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/22/2010 08:01 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 17:30:18 you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/22/2010 05:58 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Reply to All / Reply to List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 15:35:07 Rares Aioanei wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [snip] Methinks you should file a bug including the
screenshot and
>>>>>>> the output of lspci -vv, since I don'te personally see
nothing
>>>>>>> amiss with the Xorg log.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll do that and post the number here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as a solution, yes, you may try to downgrade the Intel
driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just : xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-1.fc13.i686 and intel-gpu-
>>>>>> tools-2.11.0-1.fc13.i686, or the xorg updates as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to play safe and avoid any problems with library
>>>>> dependencies, so
>>>>> you should also include xorg-* .
>>>>>
>>>> Hmm - sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this right. Asking for the
>>>> downgrade, it says it will also remove
>>>>
>>>> xorg-x11-drivers xorg-x11-drv-fpit xorg-x11-drv-synaptics
>>>> xorg-x11-drv- vmmouse and xorg-x11-drv-wacom
>>>>
>>>> Will these also automatically get replaced?
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>> You are not a pain, we're all here to help each other. OTOH, you can
>>> write these down and if they won't be
>>> replaced, you can install them explicitly.
>>>
>> I seem to be in a vicious circle here.
>>
>> Installing:
>> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 fedora 7.8 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 updates-testing 14 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-synaptics i686 1.2.2-2.fc13 updates-testing 61 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 updates-testing 17 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 updates-testing 113 k
>>
>> Updating for dependencies:
>> xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 1.3 M
>> xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 60 k
>>
>> Back where I started.
>>
>> Downgrading:
>> xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-4.fc13 fedora 1.3 M
>> xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-4.fc13 fedora 59 k
>>
>> Removing for dependencies:
>> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 @fedora 0.0
>> xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 @updates-testing 14 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 @updates-testing 19 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 @updates-testing 310 k
>>
>> so now I have to xorg-x11-drivers - and I daren't log out ;-) I know
>> it's possible to specify a version, so if you can tell me the version
>> before 7.3-14 I'll try to install that
>>
>> Anne
>>
> I'm not at a Fedora machine at the moment, but ls-ing your rpm database
> (provided you haven't yum cleaned recently) should
> show you the versions you need. Best of luck. :-)
>
There was no earlier version in my yum log. I've searched koji, and there's
only one F13 version. The log definitely shows it installed today, so what
was used for the same job before is anybody's guess. In the morning I'll
check the install DVD - see if it's there. Maybe it used an F12 one before
today.
I'll leave the laptop on overnight, and try again in the morning.
Anne
Not the log...yum saves installed rpm's a while in a package database.
Look there.
2:06 p.m.
New subject: New xorg update gives horrible display - long
On 04/22/2010 09:47 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 22 April 2010 19:07:57 you wrote:
> On 04/22/2010 08:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 18:12:06 you wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/22/2010 08:01 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 17:30:18 you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/22/2010 05:58 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Reply to All / Reply to List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday 22 April 2010 15:35:07 Rares Aioanei wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [snip] Methinks you should file a bug including the
screenshot and
>>>>>>> the output of lspci -vv, since I don'te personally see
nothing
>>>>>>> amiss with the Xorg log.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll do that and post the number here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as a solution, yes, you may try to downgrade the Intel
driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just : xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-1.fc13.i686 and intel-gpu-
>>>>>> tools-2.11.0-1.fc13.i686, or the xorg updates as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to play safe and avoid any problems with library
>>>>> dependencies, so
>>>>> you should also include xorg-* .
>>>>>
>>>> Hmm - sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this right. Asking for the
>>>> downgrade, it says it will also remove
>>>>
>>>> xorg-x11-drivers xorg-x11-drv-fpit xorg-x11-drv-synaptics
>>>> xorg-x11-drv- vmmouse and xorg-x11-drv-wacom
>>>>
>>>> Will these also automatically get replaced?
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>> You are not a pain, we're all here to help each other. OTOH, you can
>>> write these down and if they won't be
>>> replaced, you can install them explicitly.
>>>
>> I seem to be in a vicious circle here.
>>
>> Installing:
>> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 fedora 7.8 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 updates-testing 14 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-synaptics i686 1.2.2-2.fc13 updates-testing 61 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 updates-testing 17 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 updates-testing 113 k
>>
>> Updating for dependencies:
>> xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 1.3 M
>> xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 60 k
>>
>> Back where I started.
>>
>> Downgrading:
>> xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-4.fc13 fedora 1.3 M
>> xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-4.fc13 fedora 59 k
>>
>> Removing for dependencies:
>> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 @fedora 0.0
>> xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 @updates-testing 14 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 @updates-testing 19 k
>> xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 @updates-testing 310 k
>>
>> so now I have to xorg-x11-drivers - and I daren't log out ;-) I know
>> it's possible to specify a version, so if you can tell me the version
>> before 7.3-14 I'll try to install that
>>
>> Anne
>>
> I'm not at a Fedora machine at the moment, but ls-ing your rpm database
> (provided you haven't yum cleaned recently) should
> show you the versions you need. Best of luck. :-)
>
There was no earlier version in my yum log. I've searched koji, and there's
only one F13 version. The log definitely shows it installed today, so what
was used for the same job before is anybody's guess. In the morning I'll
check the install DVD - see if it's there. Maybe it used an F12 one before
today.
I'll leave the laptop on overnight, and try again in the morning.
Anne
http://mirror.ovh.net/download.fedora.redhat.com/linux/releases/test/13-B...
has an older version of the Intel driver.
2:51 a.m.
New subject: New xorg update gives horrible display - long
Hi Anne,
There was no earlier version in my yum log. I've searched koji, and
there's only one F13 version. The log definitely shows it installed today,
so what was used for the same job before is anybody's guess. In the
morning I'll check the install DVD - see if it's there. Maybe it used an
F12 one before today.
I'll leave the laptop on overnight, and try again in the morning.
no guessing required. /root/install.log contains a list of all packages that
were loaded during the initial install.
Cheers,
Andreas
3:18 a.m.
New subject: New xorg update gives horrible display - long
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 08:51:25 Andreas Petzold wrote:
Hi Anne,
> There was no earlier version in my yum log. I've searched koji, and
> there's only one F13 version. The log definitely shows it installed
> today, so what was used for the same job before is anybody's guess. In
> the morning I'll check the install DVD - see if it's there. Maybe it
> used an F12 one before today.
>
> I'll leave the laptop on overnight, and try again in the morning.
no guessing required. /root/install.log contains a list of all packages
that were loaded during the initial install.
I'm utterly confused. Downgrading the intel driver didn't cure the
display
problem, yet I didn't have it with the old driver. It was basic - no
compositing etc - but no display distortion either. I've tried to find out
what's happening, but I'm completely lost.
Installed Packages
xorg-x11-drv-intel.i686 2.10.0-4.fc13 @fedora
Available Packages
xorg-x11-drv-intel.i686 2.11.0-1.fc13 updates-testing
....
Removing:
xorg-x11-drv-intel i686 2.10.0-4.fc13 @fedora 789 k
Removing for dependencies:
xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 @fedora 0.0
....
Updating:
xorg-x11-drv-intel i686 2.11.0-1.fc13 updates-testing 191 k
....
Complete!
[root@tecraA11 ~]# yum install xorg-x11-drivers
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Package xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-14.fc13.i686 already installed and latest version
Nothing to do
!! It said it removed it - and it didn't say that it put it back as a
dependency. I'm utterly lost. Meanwhile, it's not obvious what is causing
the display problems, as the previously installed version also has it. There
must be some interaction with one of the other packages.
Anne
3:30 a.m.
New subject: New xorg update gives horrible display - long
2010/4/23 Anne Wilson <cannewilson(a)googlemail.com>:
I'm utterly confused. Downgrading the intel driver didn't
cure the display
problem, yet I didn't have it with the old driver. It was basic - no
compositing etc - but no display distortion either. I've tried to find out
what's happening, but I'm completely lost.
Installed Packages
xorg-x11-drv-intel.i686 2.10.0-4.fc13 @fedora
Available Packages
xorg-x11-drv-intel.i686 2.11.0-1.fc13 updates-testing
....
Removing:
xorg-x11-drv-intel i686 2.10.0-4.fc13 @fedora 789 k
Removing for dependencies:
xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 @fedora 0.0
....
Updating:
xorg-x11-drv-intel i686 2.11.0-1.fc13 updates-testing 191 k
....
Complete!
[root@tecraA11 ~]# yum install xorg-x11-drivers
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Package xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-14.fc13.i686 already installed and latest version
Nothing to do
!! It said it removed it - and it didn't say that it put it back as a
dependency. I'm utterly lost. Meanwhile, it's not obvious what is causing
the display problems, as the previously installed version also has it. There
must be some interaction with one of the other packages.
Next suspect would be xorg-X11-* packages. Guessing you know that the
HW is still ok ;)
--
LG Thomas
Dubium sapientiae initium
4:01 a.m.
New subject: New xorg update gives horrible display - long
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 09:30:44 Thomas Janssen wrote:
2010/4/23 Anne Wilson <cannewilson(a)googlemail.com>:
> I'm utterly confused. Downgrading the intel driver didn't cure the
> display problem, yet I didn't have it with the old driver. It was basic
> - no compositing etc - but no display distortion either. I've tried to
> find out what's happening, but I'm completely lost.
>
> Installed Packages
> xorg-x11-drv-intel.i686 2.10.0-4.fc13 @fedora
> Available Packages
> xorg-x11-drv-intel.i686 2.11.0-1.fc13 updates-testing
> ....
> Removing:
> xorg-x11-drv-intel i686 2.10.0-4.fc13 @fedora 789 k
> Removing for dependencies:
> xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 @fedora 0.0
> ....
> Updating:
> xorg-x11-drv-intel i686 2.11.0-1.fc13 updates-testing 191 k
> ....
> Complete!
>
> [root@tecraA11 ~]# yum install xorg-x11-drivers
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> Package xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-14.fc13.i686 already installed and latest
> version Nothing to do
>
> !! It said it removed it - and it didn't say that it put it back as a
> dependency. I'm utterly lost. Meanwhile, it's not obvious what is
> causing the display problems, as the previously installed version also
> has it. There must be some interaction with one of the other packages.
Next suspect would be xorg-X11-* packages. Guessing you know that the
HW is still ok ;)
It had better be. This is a brand-new laptop.
The only xorg-x11-related changes in the update yesterday were
Installing:
xorg-x11-drivers i686 7.3-14.fc13 fedora 7.8 k
xorg-x11-drv-fpit i686 1.3.0-10.fc13 updates-testing 14 k
xorg-x11-drv-synaptics i686 1.2.2-2.fc13 updates-testing 61 k
xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse i686 12.6.9-2.fc13 updates-testing 17 k
xorg-x11-drv-wacom i686 0.10.5-2.fc13 updates-testing 113 k
Updating for dependencies:
xorg-x11-server-Xorg i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 1.3 M
xorg-x11-server-common i686 1.8.0-7.fc13 updates-testing 60 k
Trying to revert these got me into the loop I described above.
In case there's some sort of interaction with another installed package I
listed them all - many obviously not needed by me.
xorg-x11-apps.i686 7.4-13.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-acecad.i686 1.4.0-3.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-aiptek.i686 1.3.0-3.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-cirrus.i686 1.3.2-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-dummy.i686 0.3.3-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-elographics.i686 1.2.3-6.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.i686 0.4.1-3.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-geode.i686 2.11.4.1-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-glint.i686 1.2.4-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen.i686 1.3.0-4.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-i128.i686 1.3.3-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-i740.i686 1.3.2-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-keyboard.i686 1.4.0-4.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-mach64.i686 6.8.2-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-mga.i686 1.4.11-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-mouse.i686 1.5.0-4.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-mutouch.i686 1.2.1-6.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-neomagic.i686 1.2.4-3.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-nv.i686 2.1.15-5.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-penmount.i686 1.4.0-6.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-r128.i686 6.8.1-3.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-rendition.i686 4.2.2-5.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-s3virge.i686 1.10.4-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-savage.i686 2.3.1-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion.i686 1.7.3-3.20100122.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-sis.i686 0.10.2-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-sisusb.i686 0.9.3-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-tdfx.i686 1.4.3-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-trident.i686 1.3.3-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-v4l.i686 0.2.0-4.fc13.1 installed
xorg-x11-drv-vmware.i686 10.16.7-3.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-void.i686 1.3.0-5.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-drv-voodoo.i686 1.2.3-2.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-font-utils.i686 1:7.2-11.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-proto-devel.noarch 7.4-36.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-resutils.i686 7.1-10.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-server-utils.i686 7.4-16.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-utils.i686 7.4-9.fc13 installed
xorg-x11-xkb-utils.i686 7.4-7.fc13 installed
I assume that many of tghese are installed from one package.
Anne
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