I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has surpassed the KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has surpassed the KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
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Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123<linuxguy123-
Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE
3.5.10. I've
been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has
surpassed the
KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
Well, in theory one could write a desktop plugin to replace the default one. Good week project I imagine. Branch into playground, add the per-desktop stuff and should be available. That said, there's probably something I'm missing or it probably would have been done by now.
- --Ben
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Ben BoeckelMathStuf@gmail.com wrote:
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Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123<linuxguy123-
Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE
3.5.10. I've
been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has
surpassed the
KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
Well, in theory one could write a desktop plugin to replace the default one. Good week project I imagine. Branch into playground, add the per-desktop stuff and should be available. That said, there's probably something I'm missing or it probably would have been done by now.
There's been an open bug/wishlist ideas which hundreds of votes on it for awhile now, I'm not sure what the technical problems are.
On Friday 28 August 2009 04:30:21 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123linuxguy123@gmail.com
wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has surpassed the KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
I have different wallpapers on each desktop - just to prove it can be done. I don't recall having to do anything special to do it (just since 4.3), but I've already promised to try to check out today whether I've forgotten something. I'll report back if I find that something was needed.
Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase
On Friday 28 August 2009 07:46:07 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 04:30:21 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123linuxguy123@gmail.com
wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has surpassed the KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
I have different wallpapers on each desktop - just to prove it can be done. I don't recall having to do anything special to do it (just since 4.3), but I've already promised to try to check out today whether I've forgotten something. I'll report back if I find that something was needed.
I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two.
Use the desktop cashew to zoom out > create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities > Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started.
Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other.
Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was.
Anne
On Friday 28 August 2009 09:08:23 Anne Wilson wrote:
I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two.
Use the desktop cashew to zoom out > create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities > Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started.
Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other.
Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was.
Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it:
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as_act...
Anne
Only thing I think that is lacking in the KDE4 world is WPA2 for the wifi app, other than that I do agree that 4.3 is the first release to be able to sit back and go "yeah, that's kde3.5.10's successor"
Many kudos to Rex and Kevin as well as all others involved!
-Adam
On 28/08/09 10:20, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 09:08:23 Anne Wilson wrote:
Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it:
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as_act...
I have my desktops set up this way (i.e. different activity on each and hence different background and widgets). However, there are some unexpected results I find.
If I start from a default setting (i.e. 4 desktops with the same activity on each) and then select 'Zoom Out' via the cashew, I get a zoomed out view of one desktop/activity (fair enough). If I then click 'Configure Plasma' and select 'Different Activity For Each Desktop', KDE creates the extra activities, but I've now got five. Why five?
I can ignore this, zoom back and then merrily set up each desktop independently. However, my enquiring mind doesn't stop there. I notice that if I click on the cashew for desktops 1 and 2 (I haven't bothered renaming them), there are duplicated options, i.e. I have two of each of 'Lock Widgets', 'Shortcut Settings' and 'Zoom Out'. Desktops 3 and 4 don's have these duplicated options.
If I Zoom Out from any desktop, I see those five activities/desktops mentioned above. Four of them display the background and widgets I've selected on each desktop. The other is just a bare blue one, the purpose of which I don't really understand.
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:03:00 MM wrote:
On 28/08/09 10:20, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 09:08:23 Anne Wilson wrote:
Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it:
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as_ activities_.3F
I have my desktops set up this way (i.e. different activity on each and hence different background and widgets). However, there are some unexpected results I find.
If I start from a default setting (i.e. 4 desktops with the same activity on each) and then select 'Zoom Out' via the cashew, I get a zoomed out view of one desktop/activity (fair enough). If I then click 'Configure Plasma' and select 'Different Activity For Each Desktop', KDE creates the extra activities, but I've now got five. Why five?
I can ignore this, zoom back and then merrily set up each desktop independently. However, my enquiring mind doesn't stop there. I notice that if I click on the cashew for desktops 1 and 2 (I haven't bothered renaming them), there are duplicated options, i.e. I have two of each of 'Lock Widgets', 'Shortcut Settings' and 'Zoom Out'. Desktops 3 and 4 don's have these duplicated options.
If I Zoom Out from any desktop, I see those five activities/desktops mentioned above. Four of them display the background and widgets I've selected on each desktop. The other is just a bare blue one, the purpose of which I don't really understand.
I don't have answers for these. I've seen duplicated sets of icons on some Activities, too. I'll see if I can get answers, and get back to you.
Anne
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:03:00 MM wrote:
On 28/08/09 10:20, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 09:08:23 Anne Wilson wrote:
Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it:
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as_ activities_.3F
I have my desktops set up this way (i.e. different activity on each and hence different background and widgets). However, there are some unexpected results I find.
If I start from a default setting (i.e. 4 desktops with the same activity on each) and then select 'Zoom Out' via the cashew, I get a zoomed out view of one desktop/activity (fair enough). If I then click 'Configure Plasma' and select 'Different Activity For Each Desktop', KDE creates the extra activities, but I've now got five. Why five?
I can ignore this, zoom back and then merrily set up each desktop independently. However, my enquiring mind doesn't stop there. I notice that if I click on the cashew for desktops 1 and 2 (I haven't bothered renaming them), there are duplicated options, i.e. I have two of each of 'Lock Widgets', 'Shortcut Settings' and 'Zoom Out'. Desktops 3 and 4 don's have these duplicated options.
If I Zoom Out from any desktop, I see those five activities/desktops mentioned above. Four of them display the background and widgets I've selected on each desktop. The other is just a bare blue one, the purpose of which I don't really understand.
As promised, I got answers 'from the horse's mouth'. The 'extra desktop' is a known bug, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199729, as is the duplicated toolsets, although I've not come across a bug report for that and the devs didn't point me at one.
The 'extra desktop' is because when you set it up like this it makes a new set of desktops, forgetting to re-use your original Desktop 1.
Neither are harmful in any way, just slightly confusing. They will not be fixed, because the part of code that controls this is re-written for the next release, which is due very soon. IOW, both will disappear after an update before very long.
Anne
On Sunday 30 August 2009 16:22:59 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
Neither are harmful in any way, just slightly confusing. They will not be fixed, because the part of code that controls this is re-written for the next release, which is due very soon.
Which "next release"? 4.3.1? 4.3.2? 4.4.0?
4.4, I believe.
Anne
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 30 August 2009 16:22:59 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
Neither are harmful in any way, just slightly confusing. They will not be fixed, because the part of code that controls this is re-written for the next release, which is due very soon.
Which "next release"? 4.3.1? 4.3.2? 4.4.0?
4.4, I believe.
That's not due anywhere near "very soon".
Kevin Kofler
On Sunday 30 August 2009 21:40:37 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 30 August 2009 16:22:59 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
Neither are harmful in any way, just slightly confusing. They will not be fixed, because the part of code that controls this is re-written for the next release, which is due very soon.
Which "next release"? 4.3.1? 4.3.2? 4.4.0?
4.4, I believe.
That's not due anywhere near "very soon".
Full release in January, RCs in December. We are not talking about show- stoppers, so it's no big deal, now we know that it is being dealt with.
Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase
On 30/08/09 22:09, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 30 August 2009 21:40:37 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 30 August 2009 16:22:59 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
Neither are harmful in any way, just slightly confusing. They will not be fixed, because the part of code that controls this is re-written for the next release, which is due very soon.
Which "next release"? 4.3.1? 4.3.2? 4.4.0?
4.4, I believe.
That's not due anywhere near "very soon".
Full release in January, RCs in December. We are not talking about show- stoppers, so it's no big deal, now we know that it is being dealt with.
In the meantime, I personally have tidied things up by manually editing my plasma-desktop-appletsrc. I no longer have duplicate cashew options or a spare desktop/activity in zoom-out mode. Happy days. :-)
Thanks for you earlier response, by the way, Anne.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Anne Wilsoncannewilson@googlemail.com wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 07:46:07 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 04:30:21 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123linuxguy123@gmail.com
wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has surpassed the KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
I have different wallpapers on each desktop - just to prove it can be done. I don't recall having to do anything special to do it (just since 4.3), but I've already promised to try to check out today whether I've forgotten something. I'll report back if I find that something was needed.
I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two.
Use the desktop cashew to zoom out > create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities > Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started.
Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other.
Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was.
Anne
That's a far cry from how simple it was to do this in 3.5.
There are always going to be a handful of things which aren't like they used to be but I would agree there is now far more missing from KDE 3.5.10 compared to KDE 4.3 than the other way around.
On 8/29/09, Arthur Pemberton pemboa@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Anne Wilsoncannewilson@googlemail.com wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 07:46:07 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 04:30:21 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Linuxguy123linuxguy123@gmail.com
wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
This is the first time that I feel the KDE 4.x series has surpassed the KDE 3.5 releases. Good work !
Still no wallpaper per virtual desktop though.
I have different wallpapers on each desktop - just to prove it can be done. I don't recall having to do anything special to do it (just since 4.3), but I've already promised to try to check out today whether I've forgotten something. I'll report back if I find that something was needed.
I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two.
Use the desktop cashew to zoom out > create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities > Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started.
Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other.
Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was.
Anne
That's a far cry from how simple it was to do this in 3.5.
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On Friday 28 August 2009 16:44:02 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
That's a far cry from how simple it was to do this in 3.5.
True, but the result is a great deal more powerful.
If you want simple, there's nothing to stop you using your desktops exactly as you did before, but without the separate wallpapers. It's not exactly a show- stopper.
Anne
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Anne Wilsoncannewilson@googlemail.com wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:44:02 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
That's a far cry from how simple it was to do this in 3.5.
True, but the result is a great deal more powerful.
If you want simple, there's nothing to stop you using your desktops exactly as you did before, but without the separate wallpapers. It's not exactly a show- stopper.
I like Comment #41's response: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155150#c41
On Saturday 29 August 2009 03:15:55 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Anne Wilsoncannewilson@googlemail.com
wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:44:02 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
That's a far cry from how simple it was to do this in 3.5.
True, but the result is a great deal more powerful.
If you want simple, there's nothing to stop you using your desktops exactly as you did before, but without the separate wallpapers. It's not exactly a show- stopper.
I like Comment #41's response: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155150#c41
How idle can you get? A one-off configuration to get what you like!
Anne
On 08/27/2009 09:32 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
No sign that there will ever be a middle-click window list. In fact, I don't think that there's any way to get a list of all open windows without tracking down the Window List plasmoid.
Sad.
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:28 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 08/27/2009 09:32 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
No sign that there will ever be a middle-click window list. In fact, I don't think that there's any way to get a list of all open windows without tracking down the Window List plasmoid.
Sad.
Alt-Tab comes close.
poc
On Saturday 29 August 2009 01:08:17 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:28 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 08/27/2009 09:32 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
No sign that there will ever be a middle-click window list. In fact, I don't think that there's any way to get a list of all open windows without tracking down the Window List plasmoid.
Sad.
Alt-Tab comes close.
And if your video card supports compositing, try Present Windows from the Desktop Effects. In fact there are other effects that come close.
Anne
On Saturday 29 August 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 29 August 2009 01:08:17 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:28 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 08/27/2009 09:32 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
I think that KDE 4.3 has surpassed what we had with KDE 3.5.10. I've been running 4.3 for the past few days and its awesome.
No sign that there will ever be a middle-click window list. In fact, I don't think that there's any way to get a list of all open windows without tracking down the Window List plasmoid.
Sad.
Alt-Tab comes close.
And if your video card supports compositing, try Present Windows from the Desktop Effects. In fact there are other effects that come close.
Anne
flip switch effect is pretty cool, and doesn't require me remembering a new key binding (which is never going to happen)
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