Running F21 and KDE4. I just noticed, maybe after an update, that the network icon on the systray is different than it was before. On the right side is a little yellow marker and I've no idea what it should mean.
Is there information somewhere telling people possibilities?
Hi
there is no documentation about network icons, but it's pretty simple. There are three types of indicators:
1) icon + lock = you are connected to a VPN connection 2) icon + question mark = you are not connected, but there is some available connection 3) icon + explanation mark = you are connected, but with limited connectivity, which usually means you are not able to reach the full internet
I guess your case would be number 3). This check for connectivity should be working only when you have NetworkManager configured to do so or you have installed NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora which checks a file on fedoraproject.org.
Regards, Jan
On 03/16/15 17:57, Jan Grulich wrote:
Hi
there is no documentation about network icons, but it's pretty simple. There are three types of indicators:
- icon + lock = you are connected to a VPN connection
- icon + question mark = you are not connected, but there is some available
connection 3) icon + explanation mark = you are connected, but with limited connectivity, which usually means you are not able to reach the full internet
I guess your case would be number 3). This check for connectivity should be working only when you have NetworkManager configured to do so or you have installed NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora which checks a file on fedoraproject.org.
I suppose it is a yellow explanation mark. NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora seems to have been pulled in on a fedup maybe. I certainly do have full internet access from this machine. Will either try to figure out why it thinks I don't or maybe just try to remove that package.
Thanks...
On 03/16/15 17:57, Jan Grulich wrote:
I guess your case would be number 3). This check for connectivity should be working only when you have NetworkManager configured to do so or you have installed NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora which checks a file on fedoraproject.org.
Well, that would not be a good thing to remove.....
Removing for dependencies: gdm x86_64 1:3.14.1-2.fc21 installed 3.2 M gnome-classic-session noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 78 k gnome-initial-setup x86_64 3.14.3-1.fc21 @updates 2.0 M gnome-shell x86_64 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 9.2 M gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 9.4 k gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 26 k gnome-shell-extension-common noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 503 k gnome-shell-extension-launch-new-instance noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 4.9 k gnome-shell-extension-places-menu noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 22 k gnome-shell-extension-user-theme noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 7.0 k gnome-shell-extension-window-list noarch 3.14.3-1.fc21 installed 54 k gnome-tweak-tool noarch 3.14.2-1.fc21 installed 883 k pulseaudio-gdm-hooks x86_64 5.0-25.fc21 installed 354
What a pain....
Now I have to figure out why I get the annoying ! Or just get used to it.
On 03/16/2015 03:27 PM, Jan Grulich wrote:
I guess your case would be number 3). This check for connectivity should be working only when you have NetworkManager configured to do so or you have installed NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora which checks a file on fedoraproject.org.
So is it possible to disable this check? On machines not connected to Internet, but to a working LAN, Its irritating (on Windows too).
Syam
Dne 16.3.2015 v 17:49 Syam Krishnan napsal(a):
On 03/16/2015 03:27 PM, Jan Grulich wrote:
I guess your case would be number 3). This check for connectivity should be working only when you have NetworkManager configured to do so or you have installed NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora which checks a file on fedoraproject.org.
So is it possible to disable this check? On machines not connected to Internet, but to a working LAN, Its irritating (on Windows too).
Syam
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You can disable the connectivity checking by uninstalling the package: NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora
On 03/17/15 00:49, Syam Krishnan wrote:
So is it possible to disable this check? On machines not connected to Internet, but to a working LAN, Its irritating (on Windows too).
I have found that you can't remove the package without removing some other stuff.
I have deleted /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/20-connectivity-fedora.conf but the icon remained. I had to restart NetworkManager.service to get rid of the !.
I didn't test yet, but I think you may also simply change the line in that file from interval=300 to interval=0
On 03/17/2015 03:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 03/17/15 00:49, Syam Krishnan wrote:
So is it possible to disable this check? On machines not connected to Internet, but to a working LAN, Its irritating (on Windows too).
I have found that you can't remove the package without removing some other stuff.
Against what do I file a bug report/feature request? I don't mean the package dependency problem, but the very "!" mark feature. I think there should be some option to disable it. Otherwise on machines that are not expected to have Internet connectivity, the icon indicates 'some problem' as if computers without Internet are second class citizens.
Thanks,
Syam
On 03/17/15 09:48, Syam Krishnan wrote:
On 03/17/2015 03:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 03/17/15 00:49, Syam Krishnan wrote:
So is it possible to disable this check? On machines not connected to Internet, but to a working LAN, Its irritating (on Windows too).
I have found that you can't remove the package without removing some other stuff.
Against what do I file a bug report/feature request? I don't mean the package dependency problem, but the very "!" mark feature. I think there should be some option to disable it. Otherwise on machines that are not expected to have Internet connectivity, the icon indicates 'some problem' as if computers without Internet are second class citizens.
I confirmed that you simply need to edit /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/20-connectivity-fedora.conf and set the interval to 0.
On Tuesday 17 of March 2015 07:18 Syam Krishnan wrote:
On 03/17/2015 03:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 03/17/15 00:49, Syam Krishnan wrote:
So is it possible to disable this check? On machines not connected to Internet, but to a working LAN, Its irritating (on Windows too).>
I have found that you can't remove the package without removing some other stuff.
Against what do I file a bug report/feature request? I don't mean the package dependency problem, but the very "!" mark feature. I think there should be some option to disable it. Otherwise on machines that are not expected to have Internet connectivity, the icon indicates 'some problem' as if computers without Internet are second class citizens.
Thanks,
Syam
Hi,
you can report it on KDE bugzilla [1], but as the main plasma-nm developer I'm not going to make this optional, there should be rather an information somewhere that your connectivity is limited. Even on Windows you would see the same icon if you cannot reach the full internet.
Btw. I just tried to remove NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora and there is no dependency issue. I can't think of any package (at least KDE package) which has it as dependency.
[1] - https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=plasma-nm&format=guided
Jan
On 03/17/2015 02:02 PM, Jan Grulich wrote:
Hi, you can report it on KDE bugzilla [1], but as the main plasma-nm developer I'm not going to make this optional, there should be rather an information somewhere that your connectivity is limited. Even on Windows you would see the same icon if you cannot reach the full internet.
'Limited' only when you *assume* that the machine is connected to the Internet. That's why I find it irritating when I have machines at office, connected in a LAN doing exactly what they are expected to do - but the network icon indicates there's something wrong or lacking. It's as if Internet is a must-have for a healthy network connection.
Btw. I just tried to remove NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora and there is no dependency issue. I can't think of any package (at least KDE package) which has it as dependency. [1] - https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=plasma-nm&format=guided Jan
If there's a way to disable it, then it's OK. But I'd rather have it as a GUI option than edit/delete some file or remove a package.
Syam
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