On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.ignored(a)inbox.com&gt; wrote: > Hi, > > I posted this earlier but did not get a response, so here's hoping that someone who notices has more suggestions. Most likely because what you've written doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Your email address also makes it look like you ignore it :). > I am a long-time Fedora user since Fedora Core 1 and I am looking at installing Fedora 22 on a MS Surface Pro 3 with Type Cover. But in order to do that (and to have the cover recognized), I noticed that the file linux-***/drivers/hid/hid-ids.h in the kernel from kernel.org is missing. This is however available at kcbench (which is the Missing from where? What package are you referring to, because the file is certainly in the kernel sources. > kernel compiled for benchmarking). I was wondering what the reasoning behind this is, because we can not have the Type Cover 3 recognized with the LiveCD while installing (and so installing without a keyboard is a major hassle). Not to mention, kcbench draws in over 500 MB with a dnf update. Maybe you could explain a bit more what you're trying to do here. The existence of a .h file doesn't provide a device driver. What actual device driver are you looking for, and why do you think you need the hid-ids.h file? > Also, is this the correct arena for discussing linux-firmware? If not, I apologize. If it is, I was looking at: > > /lib/firmware/mrvl > > which is provided by the linux-firmware rpm and I noticed that it is missing some files: > > This is what is in my updated files list: > > pcie8897_uapsta.bin sd8797_uapsta.bin usb8766_uapsta.bin > sd8688.bin sd8887_uapsta.bin usb8797_uapsta.bin > sd8688_helper.bin sd8897_uapsta.bin usb8897_uapsta.bin > > However, the list here (git://git.marvell.com/mwifiex-firmware.git) have some more -- here is thelist: > > pcie8897_uapsta.bin sd8797_uapsta.bin usb8766_uapsta.bin* > sd8688.bin sd8801_uapsta.bin* usb8797_uapsta.bin > sd8688_helper.bin sd8887_uapsta.bin* usb8801_uapsta.bin* > sd8787_uapsta.bin sd8897_uapsta.bin usb8897_uapsta.bin > > So, I was wondering: why are some of the files missing? Is it because of non-OSS issues? Or should I file a bug/feature request? I don't know immediately. It might very likely be because Marvell hasn't sent the updated files to the upstream linux-firmware tree maintainers yet. You should probably ask Marvell why the sd8801* and sd8787* files are not upstream yet.

> Missing from where? What package are you referring to, because the > file is certainly in the kernel sources. I agree. The kernel is indeed in the vanilla kernel sources. However, it is not installed with the fedora kernel. So why does this matter? The MS Surface Type Cover 3 is not recognized at all with a Fedora 22 installation. It is recognized however, in distributions like kUbuntu. There, the dmesg gives: [ 1.866285] usb 1-3: new full-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd [ 1.994694] usb 1-3: No LPM exit latency info found, disabling LPM. [ 1.996342] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=07e2 [ 1.996346] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 1.996349] usb 1-3: Product: Surface Type Cover [ 1.996351] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Microsoft Such a dmesg does not show up with Fedora 22 LiveCD. So I looked this up: ~$ sudo dnf provides */hid-ids.h Last metadata expiration check performed 3:56:27 ago on Tue Jun 30 08:06:19 2015. kcbench-data-4.0-0.1-16.fc22.noarch : Kernel sources from 4.0 to be used by : kcbench Repo : fedora You can see that the file is in kcbench-data (which, btw, is 525 M addiitionally (!) when installed). I just wonder why the files/drivers are in the kernel (from kernel.org) but are not there in the Fedora 22 kernel. They seem to be there in the Ubuntu kernels.

Hi, Thank you. I am sorry that my previous e-mail was not clear. > -----Original Message----- > From: jwboyer(a)fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:34:27 -0400 > To: maitra.mbox.ignored(a)inbox.com > Subject: Re: why are these drivers missing from the Fedora kernel? > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra > <maitra.mbox.ignored(a)inbox.com&gt; wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I posted this earlier but did not get a response, so here's hoping that >> someone who notices has more suggestions. > > Most likely because what you've written doesn't make a whole lot of > sense. Your email address also makes it look like you ignore it :). Yes, I do ignore this e-mail address, but not the mailing list. I read it on another e-mail address but post using this one. It is my way of keeping spam down. > >> I am a long-time Fedora user since Fedora Core 1 and I am looking at >> installing Fedora 22 on a MS Surface Pro 3 with Type Cover. But in order >> to do that (and to have the cover recognized), I noticed that the file >> linux-***/drivers/hid/hid-ids.h in the kernel from kernel.org is >> missing. This is however available at kcbench (which is the > > Missing from where? What package are you referring to, because the > file is certainly in the kernel sources. I agree. The kernel is indeed in the vanilla kernel sources. However, it is not installed with the fedora kernel.

So why does this matter? The MS Surface Type Cover 3 is not recognized at all with a Fedora 22 installation. It is recognized however, in distributions like kUbuntu. There, the dmesg gives: [ 1.866285] usb 1-3: new full-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd [ 1.994694] usb 1-3: No LPM exit latency info found, disabling LPM. [ 1.996342] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=07e2 [ 1.996346] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 1.996349] usb 1-3: Product: Surface Type Cover [ 1.996351] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Microsoft

Such a dmesg does not show up with Fedora 22 LiveCD.

So I looked this up: ~$ sudo dnf provides */hid-ids.h Last metadata expiration check performed 3:56:27 ago on Tue Jun 30 08:06:19 2015. kcbench-data-4.0-0.1-16.fc22.noarch : Kernel sources from 4.0 to be used by : kcbench Repo : fedora You can see that the file is in kcbench-data (which, btw, is 525 M addiitionally (!) when installed).

I just wonder why the files/drivers are in the kernel (from kernel.org) but are not there in the Fedora 22 kernel. They seem to be there in the Ubuntu kernels.

Please let me know if I have still not been clear. I am happy to explain (and test). I would like to use F22 on my Surface Pro 3).

You might have success with that if we can track down the patch that adds support for that device, but it will need to come via an update after installation.