Hello, this mail is status update on PyRecipes. I'm sorry there is no visible progress yet, but it's because I was considering several different formats and tried to satisfy both parties, which won't be probably possible. Current use cases of LNST (RedHat vs Mellanox) ============================================== Currently, we have both sides, each with their own use case scenarios. Red Hat is using LNST for performance regression testing, along with PerfRepo. Each test uses same tools (ethtool, netperf, ping). The setups are very similar, as for hosts and eth ifaces, what is changing is soft interface setup (bond, team, VLAN, ovs, bridge). Setup of soft interfaces is currently done via XML and in task is only execution of test tools and additional setup (ethtool, MTU). Currently, the code is duplicated in every task (perfrepo methods, ethtool setups, mtu setups, netperf inits and calls) so a new layer of abstraction would be welcomed in order to simplify the code and maintainability. As for Mellanox side, I can only speak about what I can see in switchdev recipes. Their approach is to define only hardware interfaces in XML and do all soft interface setting in the task. In order to create an abstraction layer a TestLib was created, which looks really appealing to me. What do RH/Mellanox expect from PyRecipes ========================================= We had a video call in January about PyRecipes with olichtne (RH) and jpirko (Mellanox). Both sides had different view of PyRecipes. Red Hat POW ----------- 1. Wants to be able to define soft and hard interfaces together in setup 2. Wants to be able to combine network setup with different tasks 3. Task should be understood as a function, with network as argument 4. Task should be generic Mellanox POW ------------ 1. Wants to get rid of ID's (hosts and interfaces) 2. Wants soft iface definition only in task, not in setup 3. Task should be specific 4. Wrappers for generic stuff 5. 1 task == 1 test == 1 file, do not combine it Proposed approach #1 (Mlx like) =============================== Description: Setup and task is in one file, no IDs are used, soft interface definition is part of task Example: import lnst m1 = lnst.add_host() m2 = lnst.add_host() m1_eth1 = m1.add_interface(label="tnet") m1_eth2 = m1.add_interface(label="tnet") m2_eth1 = m2.add_interface(label="tnet") while match(match=lnst.SingleMatch): m1_team = m1.create_team([m1_eth1, m1_eth2], ip="1.2.3.4/24") m2_eth1.reset(["1.2.3.5/24"]) ping_mod = ... m1_team.run(ping_mod) Proposed approach #2 (RH like) ============================== Description: Soft interfaces can be defined in both setup() and task() methods. IDs muset used due to different scopes of variables. Setup can be in separate file and can be imported in multiple tasks. In one file, multiple tasks can be called. Example: import lnst def setup(): m1 = lnst.add_host("m1") m2 = lnst.add_host("m2") m1_eth1 = m1.add_interface(id="eth1", label="tnet") m1_eth2 = m1.add_interface(id="eth2", label="tnet") m2_eth1 = m2.add_interface(id="eth1", label="tnet", ip="1.1.1.1/24") m1.create_team(id="team1", slaves=[m1_eth1, m1_eth2], ip="1.1.1.2/24") def task(): m1 = lnst.get_host("m1") m2 = lnst.get_host("m2") m1_team = m1.get_interface("team1") m2_eth1 = m2.get_interface("eth1") ping_mod = ... m1_team.run(ping_mod) lnst.run(match=lnst.SingleMatch, setup, task) Proposed approach #3 (RH like) ============================== Description: Task method is portable, it uses machine and interface objects as args so no IDs are required. Soft interfaces can be created in both do_task and in setup phase. In one file, multiple tasks can be called. Example: import lnst def do_task(m1, if1, if2): ping_mod = ...src=if1, dst=if2... m1.run(ping_mod) m1 = lnst.add_machine() m2 = lnst.add_machine() m1_eth1 = m1.add_interface(label="tnet") m1_eth2 = m1.add_interface(label="tnet") m1_team = m1.create_team(slaves=[m1_eth1, m1_eth2], ip="1.1.1.1/24") m2_eth1 = m2.add_interface(label="tnet", ip="1.1.1.2/24") while lnst.match(match=lnst.SingleMatch): do_task(m1, m1_team, m2_eth1) Summary ======= Drafts above are not meant to be final, it sure can be improved and modified to satisfy our needs. But we need to come to conclusion for both Mlx and RH side, so I can start working on it. Some important questions regarding PyRecipes: --------------------------------------------- I. Soft interfaces - in setup phase and task phase or only in task phase? II. Portability - one task == one recipe, or allow combinations of networks with different tasks? III. Should task be generic or specific? IV. Do we have to get rid of IDs? My opinion on the matter ======================== Favourite approach - #3 Answers to questions: --------------------- I. Soft interfaces - only in task phase - to follow 1 task == 1 recipe mentality, will bring easier maintaining II. Portability - one task == one recipe - even our use case shows, that tests don't allow so much combination (1 task is being used in avg. 1-2 recipes in phase1, 2-3 recipes in phase2), so I don't thinks its so important to use to preserve it III. Specific task - generic stuff can be defined by a new layer of abstraction, like TestLib in switchdev tests IV. I do not think IDs are such evil that we should get rid of it, altough I agree object oriented approach (which we want to follow, thus PyRecipes became a thing in the first place) should be only using instances of objects in both task and setup. Summary ======= Please, devs from RH and Mlx, take a look on these drafts and send an email with your opinion on the matter. Ideally, next week starting Wed I would like to have it decided so I can start implementing it. In the end, probably we will have to compromise, but hopefully, both parties will end up satisfied and all this work will lead to improving of the quality of the whole LNST. Thanks for reading, Jiri Prochazka