5:01 p.m.
Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
* * *
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
=========================================
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:43 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (stickster, 21:00:49)
* Last week in review (stickster, 21:04:23)
* Last week was up to >54.2K page views! nice work (stickster,
21:05:12)
* Pending review (stickster, 21:07:07)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending
(stickster, 21:07:11)
* --- gThumb --- (stickster, 21:07:51)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17678&preview=1&_ppp=0e08939001
(stickster, 21:07:52)
* This is ready to go editorial-wise, stickster did a pass last hour
(stickster, 21:08:02)
* --- Atomic lifecycle --- (stickster, 21:12:15)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17670&preview=1&_ppp=6182230bf2
(stickster, 21:12:27)
* AGREED: schedule for Monday 2017-Jun-26 (stickster, 21:15:11)
* ACTION: stickster do the scheduling for Atomic lifecycle article
(DONE) (stickster, 21:15:50)
* There are two other Kubernetes articles in the works by jwf which
look AWESOME (stickster, 21:16:11)
* For the k8s articles, jwf is still working and wanted to have 3 in
the hopper before we push out the first one, IIRC (stickster,
21:19:40)
* Drafts (stickster, 21:21:20)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft
(stickster, 21:21:23)
* --- Modularity testing --- (stickster, 21:22:06)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17737&preview=1&_ppp=1a128e9ec4
(stickster, 21:22:22)
* ryanlerch was working this (stickster, 21:22:34)
* ACTION: ryanlerch WILL get the "Modularity Testing Framework"
article ready and publish Wednesday 28th June, including a featured
image (ryanlerch, 21:24:42)
* --- GIMP retouching --- (stickster, 21:25:27)
* sub_pop[m][m] was reaching out to author on this one (stickster,
21:25:34)
* ACTION: sub_pop[m][m] create drafts for each of the 3 duply series
posts as needed (stickster, 21:39:40)
* AGREED: twitter 85K post is probably not good fodder for Magazine
as-is... a "here's how to share and link to us effectively" post
would be good though (stickster, 21:40:29)
* ACTION: stickster trash the 85K post and make suggestions to author
as needed (stickster, 21:40:44)
* There may be some new content soon on the Fedora Developer Portal
for desktop applications, and we can certainly publish an article
about that when it happens (stickster, 21:46:09)
* stickster is involved in the dev-portal bit and can handle that
(stickster, 21:46:38)
* Steam also has a flatpak, so that might a be a good newsy article
too (ryanlerch, 21:46:41)
* AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri Jun 23 - gThumb (ryanlerch image);
Mon Jun 26 - Atomic lifecycle (stickster); Wed Jun 28 - Modularity
testing (ryanlerch); Fri Jun 30 - duply (sub_pop) *or* k8s (jwf);
possible Steam flatpak article as soon as wanted (stickster,
21:50:46)
* LINK: https://flathub.org/#using should help (stickster, 21:52:23)
* All other business (stickster, 21:53:17)
* IDEAS FOR FAQ: (stickster, 21:55:20)
* IDEA: libvirt/KVM preferred wherever possible, not other hypervisors
(stickster, 21:55:33)
* IDEA: caveats on COPR and wording for a suitable warning
(stickster, 21:55:48)
* IDEA: if you want to do a series, have 3 posts ready to go
(stickster, 21:56:01)
* IDEA: cover free software before resorting to anything
closed/proprietary (stickster, 21:57:13)
* IDEA: avoid hacky solutions (like altering packaged files in /usr)
(stickster, 21:58:14)
* ACTION: ryanlerch start the FAQ page (stickster, 21:59:36)
* ALL authors/contributors welcome to pitch in on more for the FAQ
(stickster, 21:59:49)
Meeting ended at 22:00:57 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* stickster do the scheduling for Atomic lifecycle article (DONE)
* ryanlerch WILL get the "Modularity Testing Framework" article ready
and publish Wednesday 28th June, including a featured image
* sub_pop[m][m] create drafts for each of the 3 duply series posts as
needed
* stickster trash the 85K post and make suggestions to author as needed
* ryanlerch start the FAQ page
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* ryanlerch
* ryanlerch WILL get the "Modularity Testing Framework" article ready
and publish Wednesday 28th June, including a featured image
* ryanlerch start the FAQ page
* stickster
* stickster do the scheduling for Atomic lifecycle article (DONE)
* stickster trash the 85K post and make suggestions to author as
needed
* sub_pop[m][m]
* sub_pop[m][m] create drafts for each of the 3 duply series posts as
needed
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7:02 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On 06/22/2017 05:01 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Hey all, sorry for missing the meeting – IRC is blocked on our corporate
firewall, but I'm looking into if I can make the Magazine meetings. :)
Just a few quick answers about the Kubernetes articles from the meeting.
Both of the two articles in pending review should be all set and ready
to be scheduled whenever is easiest. I have a strong idea for what the
third article will be (deploying k8s + Tectonic in AWS), so the two we
have now are good to set on the schedule. If we want to push the first
one out next Friday (2017-06-30) and the second one out the next Friday,
we can make this our Friday articles for the next three weeks.
Neither have featured images, but I know Ryan has some pretty cool
graphics from past container-y articles, so it might be cool to recycle
and reuse some of those for this series.
Also, even though I'm fairly confident on it, should anyone find
themselves with 30-45 minutes of spare time, I wouldn't mind someone
else running through the second article about Minikube, especially on a
F26 system. Just to make sure everything is still good and working. :)
Thanks all!
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
3:42 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 12:02:00AM +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
On 06/22/2017 05:01 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
> Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
> Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
>
Hey all, sorry for missing the meeting – IRC is blocked on our corporate
firewall, but I'm looking into if I can make the Magazine meetings. :)
There's <https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-magazine> --
but it's not pretty and possibly not the best solution. You might
want to try Riot.im which allows you to have presence via a web page,
thus probably not blocked. Lots of people here are probably smarter
than I about this stuff.
Just a few quick answers about the Kubernetes articles from the
meeting.
Both of the two articles in pending review should be all set and ready
to be scheduled whenever is easiest. I have a strong idea for what the
third article will be (deploying k8s + Tectonic in AWS), so the two we
have now are good to set on the schedule. If we want to push the first
one out next Friday (2017-06-30) and the second one out the next Friday,
we can make this our Friday articles for the next three weeks.
Beautiful. I'm super confident about delivery for #3 and this sounds
fine to me, fwiw.
Neither have featured images, but I know Ryan has some pretty cool
graphics from past container-y articles, so it might be cool to recycle
and reuse some of those for this series.
Yeah, I'd love to find some neat motif for these.
Also, even though I'm fairly confident on it, should anyone find
themselves with 30-45 minutes of spare time, I wouldn't mind someone
else running through the second article about Minikube, especially on a
F26 system. Just to make sure everything is still good and working. :)
I'll try to do this later today and report back.
--
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4:07 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On 06/23/2017 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 12:02:00AM +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> On 06/22/2017 05:01 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
>> Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
>> Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-06-22/magazine.2017...
>>
>
> Hey all, sorry for missing the meeting – IRC is blocked on our corporate
> firewall, but I'm looking into if I can make the Magazine meetings. :)
There's <https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-magazine> --
but it's not pretty and possibly not the best solution. You might
want to try Riot.im which allows you to have presence via a web page,
thus probably not blocked. Lots of people here are probably smarter
than I about this stuff.
Heh, sadly both web chat and Riot are blocked too. But it looks like
I'll be able to join, I'll need to bring my own laptop on Thursdays to
participate. So I should be around for next week's meeting! :)
> Just a few quick answers about the Kubernetes articles from the
meeting.
> Both of the two articles in pending review should be all set and ready
> to be scheduled whenever is easiest. I have a strong idea for what the
> third article will be (deploying k8s + Tectonic in AWS), so the two we
> have now are good to set on the schedule. If we want to push the first
> one out next Friday (2017-06-30) and the second one out the next Friday,
> we can make this our Friday articles for the next three weeks.
Beautiful. I'm super confident about delivery for #3 and this sounds
fine to me, fwiw.
And today, I finished #3 as well, "Deploy CoreOS Tectonic to Amazon Web
Services (AWS)".
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17847&preview=1&_ppp=729f20fe76
I have a fourth and probably final one to come right after.
> Neither have featured images, but I know Ryan has some pretty
cool
> graphics from past container-y articles, so it might be cool to recycle
> and reuse some of those for this series.
Yeah, I'd love to find some neat motif for these.
> Also, even though I'm fairly confident on it, should anyone find
> themselves with 30-45 minutes of spare time, I wouldn't mind someone
> else running through the second article about Minikube, especially on a
> F26 system. Just to make sure everything is still good and working. :)
I'll try to do this later today and report back.
Thanks, let me know if you bump into anything. :)
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
4:20 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
Hi,
For the first articles, all commands, including the 2 optional packages,
run smoothly in F26.
For the second one, I got stuck in the command:
minikube start --vm-driver=kvm
This one throws an error: Exec format error
I'm running F26 without any extra repositories, in a VM
(virt-manager+qemu-kvm) with the Fedora Workstation 64-bit image.
I'll try to dig in this error later.
Br,
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1:43 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:20:14PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
Hi,
For the first articles, all commands, including the 2 optional packages,
run smoothly in F26.
For the second one, I got stuck in the command:
minikube start --vm-driver=kvm
This one throws an error: Exec format error
I'm running F26 without any extra repositories, in a VM
(virt-manager+qemu-kvm) with the Fedora Workstation 64-bit image.
I'll try to dig in this error later.
I did some light copy editing on the first article this weekend, so
once we can resolve this issue, should be good to go. It was really
well done, Justin -- looks like this will be a *great* series of
articles!
--
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2:07 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On 06/26/2017 01:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:20:14PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For the first articles, all commands, including the 2 optional packages,
> run smoothly in F26.
>
> For the second one, I got stuck in the command:
> minikube start --vm-driver=kvm
>
> This one throws an error: Exec format error
>
> I'm running F26 without any extra repositories, in a VM
> (virt-manager+qemu-kvm) with the Fedora Workstation 64-bit image.
>
> I'll try to dig in this error later.
I did some light copy editing on the first article this weekend, so
once we can resolve this issue, should be good to go. It was really
well done, Justin -- looks like this will be a *great* series of
articles!
Thanks for the feedback on this, Eduard… so on a second inspection, it
turns out a made a very silly mistake. :)
In the part of the article where you download Minikube, I had put this line:
$ curl -Lo minikube
https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-darwin-a...
Note the `darwin` bit. I had you download the binary for macOS CPU
architecture. Whoops! The correct one should be:
$ curl -Lo minikube
https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-linux-amd64
I've since updated this in the article. As of now, it should be working
as expected! Do you think you could give it another quick pass for me?
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17823&preview=1&_ppp=261ad8d760
As a scheduling note, this is for the second article in the series – the
first one should be good to schedule for tomorrow if we can get a
featured image up for it. :)
Thanks!
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
4:12 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 07:07:00PM +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
On 06/26/2017 01:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:20:14PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For the first articles, all commands, including the 2 optional packages,
>> run smoothly in F26.
>>
>> For the second one, I got stuck in the command:
>> minikube start --vm-driver=kvm
>>
>> This one throws an error: Exec format error
>>
>> I'm running F26 without any extra repositories, in a VM
>> (virt-manager+qemu-kvm) with the Fedora Workstation 64-bit image.
>>
>> I'll try to dig in this error later.
>
> I did some light copy editing on the first article this weekend, so
> once we can resolve this issue, should be good to go. It was really
> well done, Justin -- looks like this will be a *great* series of
> articles!
>
Thanks for the feedback on this, Eduard… so on a second inspection, it
turns out a made a very silly mistake. :)
In the part of the article where you download Minikube, I had put this line:
$ curl -Lo minikube
https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-darwin-a...
Note the `darwin` bit. I had you download the binary for macOS CPU
architecture. Whoops! The correct one should be:
$ curl -Lo minikube
https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-linux-amd64
I've since updated this in the article. As of now, it should be working
as expected! Do you think you could give it another quick pass for me?
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17823&preview=1&_ppp=261ad8d760
As a scheduling note, this is for the second article in the series – the
first one should be good to schedule for tomorrow if we can get a
featured image up for it. :)
Justin, we may want to rethink parts 3 and 4 of the series. Without a
doubt, the series idea is fantastic. However, I have misgivings
because CoreOS in large part competes directly with the Fedora Atomic
Host, upstream projectatomic.io, and probably our sponsor as well. :-\
I didn't realize that was the next entry's concentration or I would
have mentioned something about it. Is it possible to do something
here using technologies we're incubating in Fedora?
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4:26 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On 06/29/2017 04:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 07:07:00PM +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> On 06/26/2017 01:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:20:14PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For the first articles, all commands, including the 2 optional packages,
>>> run smoothly in F26.
>>>
>>> For the second one, I got stuck in the command:
>>> minikube start --vm-driver=kvm
>>>
>>> This one throws an error: Exec format error
>>>
>>> I'm running F26 without any extra repositories, in a VM
>>> (virt-manager+qemu-kvm) with the Fedora Workstation 64-bit image.
>>>
>>> I'll try to dig in this error later.
>>
>> I did some light copy editing on the first article this weekend, so
>> once we can resolve this issue, should be good to go. It was really
>> well done, Justin -- looks like this will be a *great* series of
>> articles!
>>
>
> Thanks for the feedback on this, Eduard… so on a second inspection, it
> turns out a made a very silly mistake. :)
>
> In the part of the article where you download Minikube, I had put this line:
>
> $ curl -Lo minikube
> https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-darwin-a...
>
> Note the `darwin` bit. I had you download the binary for macOS CPU
> architecture. Whoops! The correct one should be:
>
> $ curl -Lo minikube
> https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-linux-amd64
>
> I've since updated this in the article. As of now, it should be working
> as expected! Do you think you could give it another quick pass for me?
>
> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17823&preview=1&_ppp=261ad8d760
>
> As a scheduling note, this is for the second article in the series – the
> first one should be good to schedule for tomorrow if we can get a
> featured image up for it. :)
Justin, we may want to rethink parts 3 and 4 of the series. Without a
doubt, the series idea is fantastic. However, I have misgivings
because CoreOS in large part competes directly with the Fedora Atomic
Host, upstream projectatomic.io, and probably our sponsor as well. :-\
I didn't realize that was the next entry's concentration or I would
have mentioned something about it. Is it possible to do something
here using technologies we're incubating in Fedora?
That's not a problem. Parts 3 and 4 aren't as specific to Fedora anyways
so I can throw them up onto my own blog or somewhere else.
I don't have any topics at the immediate moment, but I'm pretty sure I
can come up with something (might see if I can do something with Buildah
and Kubernetes).
https://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2017/06/introducing-buildah/
I think we can go ahead with Parts 1 and 2, and I'll move parts 3 and 4
somewhere else. I'll make the appropriate edits to do this later today.
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
4:59 p.m.
New subject: [magazine] Re: Editorial board recap 2017-Jun-22
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 09:26:00PM +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
On 06/29/2017 04:12 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 07:07:00PM +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>> On 06/26/2017 01:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:20:14PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> For the first articles, all commands, including the 2 optional
packages,
>>>> run smoothly in F26.
>>>>
>>>> For the second one, I got stuck in the command:
>>>> minikube start --vm-driver=kvm
>>>>
>>>> This one throws an error: Exec format error
>>>>
>>>> I'm running F26 without any extra repositories, in a VM
>>>> (virt-manager+qemu-kvm) with the Fedora Workstation 64-bit image.
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to dig in this error later.
>>>
>>> I did some light copy editing on the first article this weekend, so
>>> once we can resolve this issue, should be good to go. It was really
>>> well done, Justin -- looks like this will be a *great* series of
>>> articles!
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback on this, Eduard… so on a second inspection, it
>> turns out a made a very silly mistake. :)
>>
>> In the part of the article where you download Minikube, I had put this line:
>>
>> $ curl -Lo minikube
>> https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-darwin-a...
>>
>> Note the `darwin` bit. I had you download the binary for macOS CPU
>> architecture. Whoops! The correct one should be:
>>
>> $ curl -Lo minikube
>> https://storage.googleapis.com/minikube/releases/latest/minikube-linux-amd64
>>
>> I've since updated this in the article. As of now, it should be working
>> as expected! Do you think you could give it another quick pass for me?
>>
>> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17823&preview=1&_ppp=261ad8d760
>>
>> As a scheduling note, this is for the second article in the series – the
>> first one should be good to schedule for tomorrow if we can get a
>> featured image up for it. :)
>
> Justin, we may want to rethink parts 3 and 4 of the series. Without a
> doubt, the series idea is fantastic. However, I have misgivings
> because CoreOS in large part competes directly with the Fedora Atomic
> Host, upstream projectatomic.io, and probably our sponsor as well. :-\
>
> I didn't realize that was the next entry's concentration or I would
> have mentioned something about it. Is it possible to do something
> here using technologies we're incubating in Fedora?
>
That's not a problem. Parts 3 and 4 aren't as specific to Fedora anyways
so I can throw them up onto my own blog or somewhere else.
I don't have any topics at the immediate moment, but I'm pretty sure I
can come up with something (might see if I can do something with Buildah
and Kubernetes).
https://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2017/06/introducing-buildah/
I think we can go ahead with Parts 1 and 2, and I'll move parts 3 and 4
somewhere else. I'll make the appropriate edits to do this later today.
Also -- don't take this as any kind of gospel yet. I'm asking around
to see if CoreOS Tectonic vs. CoreOS differentiates to some extent.
But maybe there's a way to skin this cat differently?
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