FUDCon3 in SF?
by Karsten Wade
I'm curious if we can make this happen.
So far my attempts to find a college to sponsor us have failed, but I
haven't worked at it much beyond emailing a group of old colleagues.
Next step would be to take it to the LUGs. These would be BALUG and
SVLUG.
Jesse Keating is interested in giving a talk, I'll do one (or two, if we
want to fill a gap with SELinux).
Is this an idea worth pursuing further?
- Karsten
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18 years, 10 months
Consolidation of Fedora sites (A Resource Center/Portal)
by Tom Adelstein
Sam Hiser and I did this sort of thing for a large UNIX company
marketing a Linux desktop. Users need a portal to navigate all the web
sites and resources out on the Web; also, a searchable knowledge base
would help, howtos and pointers to moderated forums such as
LinuxQuestions. We can also consolidate rpm packagers or put up a place
for people to find backports. That really brings the noise level down
and allows for some customer satisfaction. I'm on the Legacy project and
they could use some help.
Mr. Shuttleworth has provided centralized space with his desktop
distribution and has the most active Linux community on the planet. I
heard about the excitement and participation but didn't really "get it"
until I saw it for myself. I delete hundreds of emails a day from just
one of their mailing lists. I can find pretty much anything I want or
need to on google and it usually starts with "Ubuntu Forums". Now, they
released their first package in November and shipped their millionth CD
in May.
Sam and I laid out a plan for such a community for the UNIX/Storage
company mentioned above before Mr. Shuttleworth launched his. He's doing
everything we suggested in our plan - (I will provide anyone
documentation on this off-line.)
Colin - what about an update of your desktop user's guide? O'Reilly and
Associates might release it under their Community Press. People would
like to participate in updating it and perhaps adding more material.
Industry focus
I strongly recommend getting behind education on a global scale and that
means talking to people like School Forge. Also some alliances with
projects like FreeNX, Arabeyes.com, etc.
I'm also wondering about reaching the channel. Many small resellers
install Fedora and can provide level 1 and 2 support. That should not
conflict with Red Hat's main business and could lead people to consider
the mothership's products and services.
That's all for right now.
Tom
Tom
18 years, 10 months
Getting down to business
by Greg DeKoenigsberg
Folks,
As Fedora continues to become more and more real, it's clearly time to
figure out what role the Fedora marketing team needs to play. There will,
of course, be some issues to be negotiated around what the Fedora
marketing team can and cannot do based on Red Hat policy -- but:
a. There's plenty of things that a Fedora marketing team *can* do, now;
b. Fedora marketing should be pushing Red Hat to help define those limits.
So. Since Colin Charles is the owner of this list and one of its
originators, I've asked him to start putting together the pieces, to make
Fedora marketing its own project.
Good luck, Colin. Take us to the promised land. :)
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18 years, 10 months
Re: blurb about Fedora Core 4 Installation Guide
by Karsten Wade
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:27 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Karsten Wade (kwade(a)redhat.com) said:
> > Here's a tasty tid-bit to include for the FC4 release announcement:
>
> Actually.....
>
> would the docs project like to write the annoucement? :)
OK, but actually I'll do it as a member of the Fedora marketing
project/group, since I think it really lands in that camp.
> I can handle the mechanics of getting it posted, putting in the
> mirror URLs, etc.
Aside from the Installation Guide, what else do we want to highlight
about the release?
I've Cc:'d f-marketing-l to get some more input on what to include.
- Karsten
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18 years, 10 months
Defining roles
by Colin Charles
I'm taking a stab at performing #1 on the list
Lead - Colin Charles
(okay, if you have problems about this, please speak up. If you think
you'd be doing a better job, also please speak up. I'm going on this via
permission from Greg...)
Co-Lead - Jack Aboutboul / Rahul Sundaram
(vote? whatever [as jack would put it])
RH Godfather - Greg DeKoenigsberg
(this is not a votable position, so don't even try ;-) )
Okay, in the past terms like "marketing director" has been used before.
Blah blah, fill up roles (lets get stuff done instead)
Now, committee members (I realise we should really be doing some form of
election, but what the heck). I propose (in no particular order; and I
know some of you are on other ctte's, tough):
* Jesse Keating (our Legacy liason)
* Karsten Wade (our Docs liason)
* Jef Spaleta (our users liason)
* Seth Vidal (our Extras liason)
* Warren Togami (poster boy for our developers)
* Tom Adelstein (possibly roping in Sam Hiser - tell him to get onlist)
* Chris Negus
Organisers for FUDCon's can popup at any given time, we must give
recognition to them at some place on the website.... TODO
There, initial noisemakers get roped in. Now, we definitely need more
"do-ers" than just noisemakers. Is everyone happy to be on the
committee? We can definitely add more people, as they become doers...
Cap it off at around 12 core members (at most), and let everyone else be
a marketing community contact (MarCon)
Now all of you don't just get blind tasks. All subprojected to do
work... Hawhaw. Comments, questions, brickbats?
Love,
Colin
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FUDCon II @ LinuxTag
June 24-25, 2005 in Karlsruhe, Germany
http://fedoraproject.com/fudcon/
18 years, 10 months
My brain dump (i.e. our marketing plan)
by Colin Charles
Here it is folk...
* Define roles (of people)
* Start officiating meetings (weekly might be too taxing, but
maybe bi-weekly...)
* We handle all press releases
* Create marketing presentations
* FUDCon (video/audio/live streaming, distribution afterward,
publicity, organising)
* Tracking media releases - providing appropriate responses if
they're wrong/incorrect (Jack has done this in the past, though
cc'ed only on a private list; Rahul Sundaram has been doing this
in public on f-m-l, great stuff - I smell a role here, already)
- harness resources like google news
* Encourage MarCon's to do presentations
* Local/OEM support companies are important to list. Also CD
vendors. Let's encourage the spreading of Fedora, by helping
those that do it IRL (and so happen to make a little money off
it)
* Fedora books, CDs, Resources DB - we need a list
* Targeted marketing: developers, users, companies, universities
(add more here)
* Plans for a newer website - users go to it first, lets make it
usable/better
* Fedora Traffic - aka fedora news updates. How do we as a team
make it happen (I have ideas, scripts, etc... just now looking
for volunteers and well, delegation time)
* Find out about existing Fedora websites. See how we can build on
their resources (like how we did for fedoraforum), and maybe
make affiliations with them
* Create a formal swag request/fulfillment process
* Hardware Compatibility Lists (HCLs) - we are certifiying
nothing. More on this topic in a while (i.e. I have code, and
work in ~/code/hwdb, now its just time to unleash the beast for
a beating)
* Marketing via a LiveCD - developer's don't find this terribly
useful, but its a great marketing tool. Now, we need to leverage
pushing this towards being done.
* Getting wider exposure - magazines have to start loving us. Even
if it means we edit the comps.xml and provide something suitable
for them. DVDs are getting popular though, whee!
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FUDCon II @ LinuxTag
June 24-25, 2005 in Karlsruhe, Germany
http://fedoraproject.com/fudcon/
18 years, 10 months
grokking the FF
by Karsten Wade
That's Fedora Foundation, not the Fantastic Four(TM).
I think a great first formal mission for this group is to understand (to
grok) the FF and explain to everyone what it is about.
The FF is not yet understood by these groups:
* Developers inside and outside of Red Hat
* The community at large
* "Just" end-users
There are at least three marketing messages I see there.
I'd like to suggest that the legal people working on the FF creation use
the Fedora Marketing Project as a mouthpiece. Do the work here first to
help people understand, and let us help distribute the understanding.
- Karsten
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18 years, 10 months
Re: fedoraproject.org
by seth vidal
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 03:39 -0500, Patrick Barnes wrote:
> I have been looking over the many Fedora-related sites and gathering
> information about what is out there and how it is organized. I have
> been trying to determine what really needs improvement and how that
> improvement can be achieved. I had some thoughts relating to
> http://fedoraproject.org and posted them to fedora-docs-list, and it was
> suggested that I send them here (fedora-marketing-list) instead. I have
> also sent this message to Seth Vidal. Below is an excerpt from my
> original post:
>
> I'm not sure how many people actually use this base URL, but it needs
> some loving.
>
> One idea that I had is that this URL could redirect to
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ and that the Wiki's front page could
> feature all of the existing links, with a brief description. This would
> allow easier maintenance, and would automagically make the page more
> useful.
>
> With Red Hat announcing the creation of The Fedora Foundation, it seems
> like Fedora's information will eventually move away from
> fedora.redhat.com to its own domain. I don't know if this would be
> fedoraproject.org or something entirely different. If the migration is
> to fedoraproject.org, then my above suggestion would not create any
> problems. Simply removing the redirect and dropping content similar to
> fedora.redhat.com would be acceptable. The Wiki and the rest of the
> fedoraproject.org hierarchy would not conflict with the content
> currently at fedora.redhat.com, and links could be added to whatever
> main page is at the base URL to direct people to the current
> fedoraproject.org content. If anyone needs any clarification on my
> thinking, drop me a line.
Here's what I think:
I agree with you about the fedoraproject.org page needing to be more
useful.
Put together a prototype for the front page. I think doing it all
exclusively in the wiki will result in a fairly ugly webpage but I'm
open to give it a try.
Set yourself up a wiki account, I'll give you privs to change a page and
you make a 'newfrontpage' page and we'll work from there to see if it
works.
It's a good place to start and if it all looks well I'll do the leg work
to turn it into the main page.
sound cool?
-sv
18 years, 10 months
Fedora Goals
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi
We now have a roadmap page that describes project goals for Fedora Core
5. More information should be added about other major things like say
the SELinux MLS plans or the per user /tmp work , under a security
overview (potentially reorganised into layers ) depending on the amount
of indepth details that could be provided. Its a wiki page so everyone
including developers working on the major sub systems could pitch in
with their ideas and comments there.
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Future
If there are things that is planned for the next release or split up
across versions , new "future" pages for FC5+x could be added to the
wiki. This is just a broad overview of things that is planned to be done
and not necessarily core stuff or code related. If there isnt enough to
time to complete it within the current release, one could always push it
to the next one. It would help the community understand the plans and
serve as a work list for developers.
Thanks to everyone who worked on this
regards
Rahul
18 years, 10 months
