Interesting online locations to buy or listen to ogg vorbis or flac.. legally
by Jef Spaleta
Moving discussion from the -devel-list...
On 8/22/05, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> >
> > I'd argue, however, that "positive propaganda" is the right
> > strategy here too: if RH (and much of the OS community) takes the
> > principled stand of providing a free media stack, it ought to put a
> > little bit of energy into promoting free media formats -- for
> > instance, it would be nice to see a web site promoting the Ogg Vorbis
> > streams that are out there, just as there are sites promoting the SBR
> > heresy...
> >
> > http://www.tuner2.com/
> >
> That does seem like a good idea to me. If you got other areas that we
> can improve the the promotion of free media formats, do post to the
> fedora-marketing list.
So to get a good start at promoting open formats how about we make an
exhaustive list of websites which are either offering open format
streams or open format files for purchase.
My offering to such a list are:
http://www.mindawn.com/ ogg and flac music to purchase
http://www.telltaleweekly.org/ audiobooks in mp3/aac AND ogg
Anyone else know of any other interesting places to get ogg vorbis legally?
-jef"legally interesting theora content would be a boon as well"spaleta
18 years, 8 months
Wording of Legal Issues myth
by Toshio Kuratomi
I read the Fedora Myths page today and thought the legal issues entry
was a bit on the conservative side. I'd like to see it be a little more
explicit about the situation:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMyths#head-37a0662e90f2aaad2607986eb8...
I would like to change this paragraph:
For example, Fedora includes several media players that support a wide
range of formats, but not does not supply plug-ins for media formats
that are restricted by patent licenses or legislation.
To this:
For example, Fedora includes several media players that support a
wide range of free and open formats but none that depend on formats
that are restricted by patent licenses or legislation. The Fedora
project realizes that many of our users are legally allowed to use
these proprietary codecs so we package media players that are
extensible via plugins. This allows third parties that are legally
allowed to distribute the codecs to make them available as plugin
packages that will work with our media players.
Does this cross the line to contributory infringement? It doesn't
mention any specific places a person can download from. It covers users
granted licenses by the owning companies as well as users in countries
where the patents are not valid. It doesn't encourage anyone to do
anything that is illegal; only points out that plugin packages are
available on the internet for those who have a right to use them.
-Toshio
18 years, 8 months
Logo -- simple, possibly version, repository and internationally-friendly?
by Bryan Smith
Just joined after finding the logo page here:
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LogoIdeas
I have to say, the "periodic table of elements" is the most ideal IMHO.
I'll break it down for these reasons, with my noted modifications:
1. Simple -- simple is good (especially for #4)
NOTE: I like the slight gradient/3D Diana Fong added
2. Version - version in the corner
3. Repository - use a large letter for the repository type (at least in
English -- users of other Latin character set languages should sound
off)
E.g., "C" for Core, "E" for Extras, "L" for Legacy, with the full name
underneath ("Fedora Core", "Fedora Extras", "Fedora Legacy"). We could
even have "3" to _reference_ 3rd parties (although I assume it wouldn't
be for their use under the official trademark guidelines)
4. Internationally? - easy modified into other languages?
I think the simple design really makes it easy to make it international
without radically changing the same, layout, etc... Being an ignorant
US American that only speaks English (and poorly at that), I try to be
conscience of these things.
Lastly, and a possible legal consideration: Since it's modeled after an
entry in the periodic table of elements, it might be immune to some
entity claiming likeness, correct? Disclaimer: IANAL
--
Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith(a)ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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18 years, 8 months
Re: Free Java: Sun Struggles to Come to Terms with Open Source
by Patrick W. Barnes
Reference:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1850616,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000616
In your recent article regarding open-sourcing Java, you stated that
many distributions, including Fedora, lack support for Java as a
development language and runtime environment. This is actually not the
case. Fedora Core 4 includes support for the GCJ Java implementation.
This is an entirely open-source Java compiler and runtime
implementation. Although it is not feature-complete when compared to
Sun's current offerings, it is providing an alternative for Sun's Java
for many purposes with Fedora. As progress continues on the GCJ
implementation, Fedora users can enjoy being among the first to have a
pre-installed, open-source alternative to Sun's Java. It would be much
appreciated if you would place a note about this in your article.
Thank you.
--
Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
nman64(a)n-man.com
www.n-man.com
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18 years, 8 months
About editing Fedoraproject Wiki
by Luya Tshimbalanga
I just registered on Fedora Project. I noticed it is possible to registered user to
edit file. I was intended to add the concept I posted on this mail-list inside
Fedora Logo section but I
need approval. Let knew if it is done.
Thanks,
Luya
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18 years, 8 months
FedoraMyths (New wiki page)
by Patrick W. Barnes
I have put up a new page on the wiki:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMyths
This is intended to be a point to fight common myths about Fedora, such
as the nature of Red Hat's relationship with Fedora. If you have any
myths that you often hear and would like to add, please feel free to do so.
I think that this sort of thing is important to building the Fedora
name. I know that I have heard quite a few things about Fedora that
aren't true or are misguided. Some of these myths make it into press
articles and other publications. Some of these myths are better-known
than the truth, and that hurts the project in multiple ways. This is
just one small step toward fighting those myths.
--
Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
nman64(a)n-man.com
www.n-man.com
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18 years, 8 months
Re: RPM Article
by Marc Wiriadisastra
Hi Ladislav,
Thank you for the very quick response I really do appreciate it. Is it
possible that you either add a note down the bottom to say that it is an
old article and it may not be relevant anymore or it is there for
historical reasons and it may not be relevant with current improvements.
Again thank you for your speed in reply and an interesting read with
very valid points. I look forward to reading more from you.
Regards,
Marc
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 12:42 +0800, Ladislav Bodnar wrote:
> On Friday 19 August 2005 12:31, you wrote:
> > While I appreciate the complaints relating to RPM a lot of the points
> > you point out are valid however. Relating to the upgrading I believe
> > that major in-roads have been made in relation to Fedora.
>
> That article was written over 3 years ago, so I don't think it is still
> valid in this age of yum, apt-get, urpmi....
>
> Thank you for your feedback :-)
>
> Ladislav
18 years, 8 months
