Meeting
by Colin Charles
Same time as usual, #fedora-mktg on freenode
THURSDAY AUGUST 18, 15:00 UTC
THURSDAY AUGUST 18, 11:00 Eastern US
THURSDAY AUGUST 18, 08:00 Western US
FRIDAY AUGUST 19, 01:00 Melbourne (UTC+10)
See you all then
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18 years, 8 months
Re: Fedora Logo and background
by Luya Tshimbalanga
I have updated the page. You will notice extras, legacy and more are
added. These are just rough idea that comes to mind based from
the original Fedora Logo draw.
Oh, that picture from Karsten confirm I am coming from an odd world. =p
Luya
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mentors
by Marc Wiriadisastra
I don't know if this should be in this mailing list but if not please
point me to where it should be. Now everyone knows that the more people
help out whether thats packaging or coding or even in the marketing
section the better Fedora will be.
I just was browsing around thinking about this and I came across a debian
How you can help page. Reading through it to see how the other camp deal
with growing the contributors to the overall OS I noticed they have
several mailing lists. Now I know I know we have mailing lists as well.
However they have a mailing list called debian-mentors now for me I was
surprised.
I personally have spent numerous days learning how to build rpm's as well
as trying to follow the fedora package naming and layout conventions and I
thought wouldn't that be a great idea. If someone is interested in
learning provided they don't waste peoples time by actually WANTING to
contribute maybe a mentors list go get them from a newbie/basic
contributor to an active member of the support/devel crew.
If and I specify if people are willing to mentor couldn't we grow the
contributors in that way. I say marketing because in the process of
growing the contributors we could grow the marketing by saying we need you
to help make this OS better and here's how you can learn to help.
I saw it happen with the bugs people (bad way to describe it) in Fedora
marketing that they need bugs people, wouldn't it be more logical in
promoting a common location and advertising the fact of who's helping out.
It might be a great way of getting more people involved.
I don't know if its feasible I'm just throwing ideas out there.
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re: Re: Fedora Logo and background
by Luya Tshimbalanga
I added a new drawing with some slight variation on the "C"
called fedora-logo-test03f.
Whether that logo brought legal or not would be the Red Hat
committee decision. Hopefully that looks more like a
bird than a hat.
Luya
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Fedora Logo and background
by Luya Tshimbalanga
My name is Luya. Some people met me before on LinuxWorld San Francisco.
Since the team is looking for either logo and background. I decided to
create them which are available on http://www.thefinalzone.com/Fedora/
The logo is simple. It combine two shaped letters F(Fedora) and C(Core).
It looks simple but it is deep. It you have a good eye, you will see a
hat to retain its Red Hat Linux heritage or a bird with a long right wing.
The background uses the same logo, there are some variants as you will
decide the style you really like.
I have not decide if I release my work under FreeArts or any GPL
compatible. Any suggestion is welcome about licensing.
I hope you will really these arts.
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P.S: this message was at the wrong address i.e. fedora-marketing-list-bouncer. sorry for causing the mess.
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protect your docs like you do your source code [ an editorial ]
by Karsten Wade
Would you put the editing of the kernel source into a Wiki?
Sounds extreme, but let me scare you even further.
In program source code, you *can* use different code to get the same
results. There are always lots of arguments for and against certain
solutions, but it is possible to use different ones.
In written language, you can move a single comma and have a sentence of
an entirely different meaning. There are entire books filled with
examples[1]. You may have a favorite one you want to share. We can
frame this argument as, "The meaning is in the syntax."
Dropping a single character can have unexpected and REALLY BAD
consequences:
rm *~
Just don't drop the ~.
Because users rely upon our documentation, from manual pages to PDF
guides, we have to exert the same level of stewardship as we do for the
project source code. This does occur for manual pages, and it is the
scope of the Documentation Project to consider it at all levels.
This little editorial is just to set the stage for further discussions
of where documentation lives and how it is produced. Personally, I'm
open to solutions, and so is the Documentation Project.
However, the stylist in me often hates Wikis. Elevating a raw Wiki is
like sucking in all of CPAN and calling it the Fedora Perl Project.
For the moment, we have a process that we can be _responsible_ for.
Wielding the power of language, right?
We would need a new process for Wiki documentation to be even feasible.
By it's nature, such a process would be anti-Wiki.
For example, a process can be created using a Wiki, with authored pages
going through a workflow or some kind of upstreaming through editors.
Okay, really, that's a CMS. If we can tack one onto the Wiki, cool.
I'd dig a way to graduate Wiki pages to canonical in the CMS. Keep a
good Wiki page, we'll make it ThePage. But it's not Wiki anymore,
because an editor has to check it first before it goes live.
Schroedinger's Wiki.
At least, that is what I gather from Wiki proponents. Reduction of
control = not MyWiki!
This is just for the record. :)
- Karsten, who couldn't find room for this quote:
"A Wiki is like casual sex, you get to have your fun and leave behind
only your ScreenName."
[1] Eats, Shoots & Leaves
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592400876/103-6883807-2623...
Punctuation quiz:
http://eatsshootsandleaves.com/ESLquiz.html
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18 years, 8 months
Regular text logo
by Paul W. Frields
This may be an issue for Greg especially given his proximity to the
legal folks. Are "official" sites such as the Wiki allowed to use the
Fedora text logo (i.e. the stylized "Fedora Project" text seen in the
upper left of fedora.redhat.com)?
I created a reproduction of this with the help of fontforge, and sent it
to Seth to use in his cool redesign of the Wiki theme, but now I realize
that this might be an issue. I had no intention of back-dooring anyone,
but was just trying to be helpful. If it's a problem, I'll just turn
the evapo-ray on it here, with apologies for the bother. Those of us
who don't program, tinker instead. :-)
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18 years, 8 months
Need more speakers for FUDCon London 2005!
by Alex
Hello Fedora Marketing!
The submission deadline is August 26, and we have commitments from the
following people:
Michael Tiemann (keynote),
Alasdair Kergon,
Florian LaRoche,
Daniel Veillard,
Ronan Kirby,
Mark Cox
We need more people if we are to fill the two tracks. Please make sure
you invite more people to submit their talks to
fudcon-cfp(a)fedoraporject.org.
Thank you,
a
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18 years, 8 months
Now Seeking Guinea Pigs (Mentors)
by Patrick W. Barnes
Following recent discussions, the Mentors page on the wiki was created
recently. It did little more than list where potential contributors
might go. I have moved that information to the HelpWanted page, cleaned
it up, and created new content for the Mentors page. As part of doing
so, I have started the list of volunteer mentors on that page.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors
If you would be willing to mentor new contributors to Fedora, please
consider adding yourself to that list. Hopefully, having such an open
list will work out. This will be a list that curious contributors can
select mentors from. Please be careful and descriptive in your
listing. Please keep in mind that if you are bombarded with requests,
you are free to remove your name from the list, but we need to try to
manage requests to keep that from happening. As the list grows, if you
are getting more requests than you can handle, please try to pass
requests along to other, less-bombarded mentors rather than unleash your
wrath on new contributors.
I have posted this message to fedora-devel-list, fedora-extras-list,
fedora-marketing-list, and fedora-docs-list. Please don't shoot me, we
need all the mentors we can get from every facet of the Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors
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