joining Marketing
by Karsten Wade
Question about:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Join
Step 4, "Join the 'marketing' group in the Account System." Since we
tend to use the groups to signal various effects (voting,
fedorapeople.org access, etc.), it seems to make sense to have a
requirement/entry barrier to get into that group. Versus, for example,
just letting in anyone who requests.
Any objections to adding a bullet to step 4?
" * You must introduce yourself to the mailing list before you can be
approved for the 'marketing' group."
Naturally I'm asking because we have a few requests in the queue, and
while I recognize a few of the names as having joined discussions on
this list, it would be nice for the group admins to have a clear
criteria.
Also, some of you are not in that group and you should be. So join!
make Thomas, Patrick, and myself busy with sponsoring; or step-up to be
a group admin and help out with that part, too. :)
Thx - Karsten
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16 years, 1 month
Re: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13
by Denis Dahsulja
Hi all,
looks great, very good document, my Portuguese is little bit rusty, but if someone is to translate this on English, I'll be happy to translate it to Croatian.
Regards
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Today's Topics:
1. Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
(Davidson Rodrigues Paulo)
2. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
(Juan M. Rodriguez)
3. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (John Babich)
4. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (M?ir?n Duffy)
5. Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine (Zied Fakhfakh)
6. Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)
(Nitipit)
7. Re: Fedora 9 interviews - what's left (Rodrigo Menezes)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:02:02 -0300
From: "Davidson Rodrigues Paulo" <davidsonpaulo(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, "For participants of the
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Hi,
We are proud to announce the release of the first issue of Revista
Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about
Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for
those who speak Portuguese.
Starting our release cicle, we've choosen "Fedora 8" as the cover
story and central theme of the magazine, including articles about
system-config-firewall and IcedTea. We also included an interview with
FAmSCo member Rodrigo Padula, a column by Igor Soares and some Fedora
news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team.
Official release announce:
* http://projetofedora.org/node/424
Download it now (PDF, 5.1 MB):
* http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/arquivos/RevistaFedoraBrasil001.pdf
We hope we have been done a good job, but we know we can do even
better. To make this possible, we are working to turn easy for our
readers to send comments, sugestions and, of course, content to be
published.
Any feedback will be very welcome.
Thanks,
--
Davidson Paulo
Fedora Brazil Magazine, Editor-In-Chief
Linux System Administrator
LPI Certified Level 1: LPI000132770
Brazilian Fedora Ambassador
http://daveandnaty.blogspot.com/
http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:32:34 -0600
From: "Juan M. Rodriguez" <nushio(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Davidson Rodrigues Paulo <
davidsonpaulo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are proud to announce the release of the first issue of Revista
> Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about
> Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for
> those who speak Portuguese.
>
> Starting our release cicle, we've choosen "Fedora 8" as the cover
> story and central theme of the magazine, including articles about
> system-config-firewall and IcedTea. We also included an interview with
> FAmSCo member Rodrigo Padula, a column by Igor Soares and some Fedora
> news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team.
>
> Official release announce:
>
> * http://projetofedora.org/node/424
>
> Download it now (PDF, 5.1 MB):
>
> *
> http://www..projetofedora.org/revista/arquivos/RevistaFedoraBrasil001.pdf
>
> We hope we have been done a good job, but we know we can do even
> better. To make this possible, we are working to turn easy for our
> readers to send comments, sugestions and, of course, content to be
> published.
>
> Any feedback will be very welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
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> Fedora Brazil Magazine, Editor-In-Chief
> Linux System Administrator
> LPI Certified Level 1: LPI000132770
> Brazilian Fedora Ambassador
> http://daveandnaty.blogspot.com/
> http://davidsonenatalia.blogspot.com/
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I downloaded it, but my lack of Portuguese skills got the best of me, would
it be too much of an issue to launch an alternate version in either English
or Spanish? :-)
I really liked the layout of the magazine, and found what little I could
understand interesting. Everything looks highly professional.
The only issue I could spot was the Blue Hat in page 6, I'm not sure it
should be there.
Great job on the magazine!
-Juan Rodriguez.
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:44:53 +0300
From: "John Babich" <jmbabich(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
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> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Davidson Rodrigues Paulo
> <davidsonpaulo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are proud to announce the release of the first issue of Revista
> > Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about
> > Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for
> > those who speak Portuguese.
> >
I can't judge the written contents, but it's certainly a great design
and very professional-looking.
> > Starting our release cicle, we've choosen "Fedora 8" as the cover
> > story and central theme of the magazine, including articles about
> > system-config-firewall and IcedTea. We also included an interview with
> > FAmSCo member Rodrigo Padula, a column by Igor Soares and some Fedora
> > news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team.
> >
<snip>
There's seems to be a good variety of topics.
> > We hope we have been done a good job, but we know we can do even
> > better. To make this possible, we are working to turn easy for our
> > readers to send comments, sugestions and, of course, content to be
> > published.
> >
You're off to a great start.
Best Regards,
John Babich
Member, FAmSCo
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:20:56 -0400
From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
<fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
Cc: Development discussions related to Fedora
<fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com>, For participants of the Documentation
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Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote:
> Any feedback will be very welcome.
The design and layout looks great! Bravo!
~m
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:24:44 +0100
From: "Zied Fakhfakh" <fzied(a)dottn.com>
Subject: Re: Fedora Project Brazil releases online magazine
To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
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Good job, even I don't unsderstand portguese
Congrats :)
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:20 PM, MáirÃn Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote:
> > Any feedback will be very welcome.
>
> The design and layout looks great! Bravo!
>
> ~m
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:39:18 +0700
From: Nitipit <nitipit(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)
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I like this idea.
First time I came to fedoraproject.org as a new linux user, It take me time
to figure out about the goal of this website. And it's hard to find some
information I need.
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:50:31 -0400
From: Rodrigo Menezes <rodrigomenezes12(a)yahoo.com.br>
Subject: Re: Fedora 9 interviews - what's left
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Guys,
Any news about the interviews below? I wanna talk about Anaconda in the
next one, I need to know if someone is covering this issue.
Cheers,
Rodrigo Menezes
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> I see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/EricSandeen done by
> Rodrigo Menezes. It seems complete though he hasn't announced it himself.
>
> What's left?
> ------------
>
> FreeIPA - really unique and we are leading this effort that probably
> will help solve one of the major admin pain point
>
> Presto is in limbo for now. So we can skip it
>
> Jidgo - Should cover if we are getting this as one of the alternative
> distribution methods for Fedora 9. Cover pyjidgo and whatever new
> features we are driving. Some discussions at
>
> https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/jigdo-user/2007-November/000113.html
>
> PreUpgrade - Should be really interesting to cover
>
> Anaconda - Very visible changes.Interview the entire Anaconda team.
> Partition resizing support, Encryption support, netinst.iso that
> combines boot.iso and rescue.iso, lots of other backend work
>
> Display - Adam Jackson is release guy for the next upstream release
> and scheduled it around Fedora 9. Should cover Fast X, RandR and
> probably Soeren's work covered to some extend in
>
> http://www.j5live.com/2008/01/30/j5-live-vlog-soeren-talks-about-projecto...
>
>
> Virtualization - Lot of major work esp xen on paravirt_ops. Look up a
> lot of blogs including
>
> http://berrange.com/personal/diary/2007/11/plan-for-xen-kernels-in-fedora-9
>
>
> Get in touch with Daniel Berrange. He would know who else we can
> interview on this. Ask about Ovirt, virtual appliance creator, policy
> kit integration with virt manager, virtual storage, virt kernel boot etc.
>
> LTSP integration - Very high profile. Interview Warren and Eric.
> https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/jigdo-user/2007-November/000113.html
>
> Upstart - Probably the first time, we had a very core feature be
> mostly community driven. Need to cover the FUDCon decision bits too.
> Not too interesting technically since we no distribution is actually
> taking advantage of upstart features yet and will be running under
> sysvinit compatibility mode.
>
> GDM, Gvfs, GCC 4.3 - Fedora is driving upstream. Backend stuff though
> except for GDM. We will be early adopters so might be good to cover
> GDM first.
>
> Swfdec - Consult with desktop team and interview upstream too if we
> are getting this installed by default
>
> SELinux user space confinement - Not in the feature list but this is a
> interesting feature neverthless and deserves to be highlighted better.
> Blog at
> http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/15700.html
>
> Rahul
>
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16 years, 1 month
making the website better
by Juan Camilo Prada
I wanted to share with the marketing list this idea.
Ive talked to some guys at the websites group and it seems that there is
a lack of people helping in that area. I also commented in my blog a few
days ago about the lack of information the main site has, leaving almost
all the basic information to the wiki, which makes the site
fedoraproject.org useless.
So the people from the websites team encouraged me to lead an effort to
work on this issue, im already thinking about the basic information the
main site of the project should have and so im already working on the
design of the new sections.
As a prospective member of the marketing team, i want to work on the
website by providing the really important information about the project
(for specific information we have the wiki) while, at the same time,
working on some banners or sections to encourage people to join the
community specially on areas that are weak on man power such as the
websites team.
So far this is the list of important items that should appear somewhere
int http://fedoraproject.org on the Index (home) page
* A small article explaining what fedora is (its already in the website)
* A small div with the News (Fedora Weekly News)
* A direct link (or links) to download the liveCDS or iso DVD
* List of the mos significant Spins currently hosted on the mirrors
Also there should be (imo) a new section which explain how to get help
and support.
If any of you have another idea about some other item that should be in
the main site share it.
BTW, this is not official, and its just a proposal that i think its
necessary for the project.
16 years, 1 month
fedora store SIG
by Ian Weller
Hey,
I was taking a look at the Store SIG wiki page, and I just had a few
questions/thoughts...
- Why is Zazzle not on the potential distributors list?
- Goal 1 states that we make it easier for Ambassadors and event
organizers, however by potentially going through different
distributors for different products (a lot of 'propsed items' are
offered by different people), this seems to cancel itself out. (of
course this is trivial)
One idea I had for a store was using distributors with nice APIs that
could submit orders automatically. Thenw hat I would do is implement
all the products into one store (let's say at store.fedoraproject.org),
and when the order was placed on store.fp, orders would be placed with
distributors automatically, and the person ordering everything would be
notified of what distributors are sending what.
Also was there a meeting on 2008-03-05? I noticed that meetings are
sparsley populated, and I could show up if the meetings didn't happen
while I was in school. I'm not asking for a time change necessarily.
I'd like to discuss the future of the store with somebody. -- ian
16 years, 1 month
GNU/Linux World Domination for the Wrong Reasons
by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3733286
=============
In the same way, you only have to glance at the user forums of major
distributions like Fedora or Ubuntu to see that more users are
concerned with getting proprietary video drivers installed than with
having control of their own computers. After all, the proprietary
drivers are available at no cost, just like the ethically free ones,
so why not use them, especially when they are technologically more
advanced? I've even seen some users castigate Fedora for not providing
the proprietary drivers in its repositories.
Never mind that to do so would be against Fedora's policy of including
only free software -- with such users, the short term convenience of
the technically superior proprietary drivers outweighs the ethos of
freedom. Many of the complainers do not even appear to have heard of
free software ideals. Nor do they bother listening when those ideals
are raised.
=============
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16 years, 1 month
Some marketing tips from Linux magazine
by Jonathan Roberts
Hey all,
I had the opportunity to ask Joe Cassad from Linux Magazine about how
they come across ideas for stories and articles, and what Fedora can
do to make it easier for them to find stories about Fedora. The most
important part of the response I got was this
Me:
> * In an ideal world, how would you like to go about getting
> information about a project like Fedora when trying to find material
> for new articles? Essentially, what can Fedora do for you to make your
> job easier!?
>
Joe:
I'm not sure where you are on this now, but one thing I have noticed in
the past is that it is difficult to get good documentation on Fedora
until after the release. If I don't get to see a detailed description
of highlights or new features until the release notes appear, this task
of finding good article topics can't start until the release. It then
takes a couple months to get an article and a couple more months to
edit and print the magazine. If there were a way to get better
documentation before the release, that would help a lot. I don't know
if you're having to content with non-disclosure strategies here, so
maybe this isn't possible.
Me:
> Do you know about our FeatureList page?
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList
>
Joe:
OK. That's useful to know about. I'll watch that list. The important
part is the description. Some of these features have useful
descriptions some are not as easy to understand at a glance.
---------------
What do people think? Maybe the SSS could help us here? And the
FeatureList could be promoted more/cleaned up by marketing or docs
people?
Best wishes,
Jon
16 years, 1 month
Re: Beta Release Notes - FINAL EDIT NEEDED
by Jonathan Roberts
Hi all,
Does anybody have a spare half an hour to go through the Beta release
notes and tidy it up? I think most of the content we need is there
(even if it's not all there, we've got pretty good coverage) but
there's just one or two sections that need changing from long bulleted
lists with esoteric iamext4developer bits and bobs that need tidying
before release.
I'm feeling pretty swamped myself just now as it's the last week of
term and there seems to be a million things to do before going home on
Thursday! If it can wait until the weekend then I should be able to do
it then, but if somebody else has the time to tidy things you'd be a
hero :)
Many thanks,
Jon
16 years, 1 month
Beta Release Notes
by Jonathan Roberts
OK all,
I've copied the content from the Alpha Release Notes to
/wiki/Releases/9/Beta/ReleaseNotes so that we can begin updating it
for the Beta release.
I think this is the most straight forward method for now, so if
anybody is interested in helping if we simply follow the format that
is there but update the information about the features already listed
and add information for features that weren't in Alpha I think we'll
be in good shape :)
Best wishes,
Jon
16 years, 1 month
Fedora on the Final Frontier
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi,
http://www.osnews.com/story/19405/Fedora_on_the_Final_Frontier
""There has been a long standing rumor regarding NASA running Fedora
which all of us in the Fedora community have been always intrigued by.
Is it true? What are they doing with it there? Why don't they run RHEL.
Fortunately enough, a couple of weeks ago, I got to experience NASA
behind the scenes, first hand, and hang out with the coolest members of
the Fedora community, and and find out the answers to these questions
and lots more"
Rahul
16 years, 1 month
