Fedora 9 : Good News. Bad News.
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi
http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/04/fedora-9-good-news-bad-news....
"In the grand scheme of things, two weeks isn't really a big deal at
all. Especially since the extra two weeks are really all about testing.
Fedora 9 is an important release for both Red Hat and the Fedora
community in that it will introduce several new innovations to the Linux
distribution.
Key among those innovations is FreeIPA, which is a tool for system
administrators to install, set up and administer centralized identity
management and authentication. The new PackageKit system that I wrote
about at the time of the Fedora 9 Beta last month is also very
interesting.Fedora 9 will also be the first Fedora release that will
provide full support for the KDE 4 Linux desktop. "
Rahul
16 years
Marketing Meeting IRC Log - 2008-04-17
by Jeffrey Tadlock
Here is a link to the HTML version of the Marketing Meeting log.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Meetings/Minutes/IRCLog20080417
Raw log below:
15:03 < quaid> yes, there is a meeting today
15:07 < stickster> Well, no time like the present.
15:08 < stickster> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks
15:08 * quaid was building a Dagwood, sorry
15:08 < stickster> Our marketing maestro isn't here, he's in Brazil.
15:08 < quaid> oh la di da for they
15:08 < stickster> And, I assume, disconnected, inebriated, or trapped
under something very heavy.
15:09 < quaid> shall we roll down the list then?
15:10 < quaid> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraStories
15:10 < stickster> Yes
15:10 < stickster> So... we haven't received many additional stories
following gregdek_gone's digg.
15:11 < stickster> One or two at most.
15:11 < quaid> more blogging?
15:11 < stickster> I have several that are interesting and I've
started contacting the posters for more information.
15:11 < quaid> more ask-yer-local-LUG?
15:12 < stickster> Sure, we can carpet-bomb the planet some more
15:13 * stickster looking up digg for count
15:13 < stickster> 194? Is that it?
15:13 * stickster wonders why every single Red Hat employee is not
digging stories.
15:14 < iWolf> we have horrible luck at getting things up high on Digg.
15:14 < stickster> Oh wait...
15:14 < stickster> more stories on that page now!
15:14 < quaid> with one exception
15:14 < stickster> :-D
15:14 < stickster> Mainly they're all "I love using Fedora."
15:14 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has joined #fedora-mktg
15:14 < stickster> Never mind then.
15:15 < stickster> Let's move on from here, with the action item being
"Paul to remind people to give up the stories."
15:15 < quaid> word
15:15 < quaid> that would make it 'talk bubbles'
15:17 < quaid> mizmo: one presumes you'll take some iterations to
f-marketing-l when you get them
15:18 < quaid> one also presumes mizmo is unavailable
15:18 < stickster> heh
15:19 < quaid> well, when there are enough stories to start with? save
naggin' 'til then
15:19 -!- drunkencoder [n=lifesuck(a)122.167.28.151] has quit [Read
error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
15:21 < tw2113> well attended meeting
15:21 < quaid> heh
15:21 -!- kushal [n=kd(a)122.167.28.151] has joined #fedora-mktg
15:21 < quaid> well announced, too
15:21 < quaid> moving along
15:21 < quaid> "12:21 < tw2113> well attended meeting
15:21 < kushal> !
15:21 < quaid> oops, wrong paste
15:21 < quaid> Combo demo/interviews for cool F9 features
15:22 < quaid> Mr stickster ?
15:22 < kushal> I have one question ? (my system did a reboot :( )
15:23 < quaid> kushal: yes?
15:24 < kushal> quaid, in fedora stories, can Bijra project story do ?
15:24 < quaid> I don't know the details of that one, but ....
15:24 < stickster> kushal: Please post it to my blog
15:24 < stickster> kushal: It can't hurt.
15:24 < kushal> stickster, ok :)
15:24 < quaid> there ya go
15:25 < quaid> oh, stickster's blog is the page to look at, that's right
15:25 < stickster> quaid: I've pretty much covered this item above.
15:25 < stickster> i.e. contacting authors back for details
15:27 < quaid> ok
15:27 < quaid> "F9 Ambassador Word of Mouth campaigh" (sic)
15:28 < quaid> is that like a Gaelic 'campaign'?
15:28 < kushal> stickster,
http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=966 is the correct
link ? (
15:28 < stickster> quaid: So far the spinal research, the robot soccer
team, and the community Linux install are the best
15:28 < stickster> kushal: yes
15:28 < stickster> quaid: that needs fixing and an update, want me to edit?
15:29 < quaid> k
15:29 < quaid> are we on that topic or ... ?
15:29 < stickster> Mr. Fugolini isn't here to update...
15:29 < stickster> *sigh
15:30 < quaid> ah, ok
15:30 < quaid> moving on then ...
15:30 < quaid> "Compiling a list of Linux publications" -- OPEN
15:30 < quaid> sounds like someone just needs to start an onlist
discussion then see it commuted to the wiki
15:31 < quaid> or is there more to this task?
15:31 < rharrison> Yeah, sounds like a simple wiki page to me.
15:31 * quaid thinks indepedent research is good, but so is the power
of the lazy web
15:31 < quaid> anyone here would like to do an easy and useful task?
15:32 < quaid> easy and useful tasks are the bread and butter of kids
like me :) ... it's how we get a reputation!
15:33 < stickster> Yeah, we also would like to get *circulation
numbers* for them
15:33 < quaid> if not, I'll start the thread on the list and ask
someone to roll with it ...
15:33 < stickster> So once you have the list, usually each mag has an
online contact for the circ. department
15:33 < stickster> You can then request these numbers from them, since
they publish it anyway.
15:34 < stickster> rharrison: Interested in doing this?
15:34 < rharrison> Just taking the responses to the email thread and
pasting to the wiki?
15:34 * rharrison is verifying the task
15:34 < quaid> and getting circulation #s
15:35 < rharrison> Yeah, it'll be good motivation to keep me caught up
on my email
15:35 < stickster> rharrison: I think this would be gathering the
magazine names and circ using Google as your guide, and supplementing
that with any email thread info.
15:35 < stickster> There's a lot you could find on the web, I'd bet.
15:36 < rharrison> yeah, the amazon link someone posted last week is
probably the best place to start
15:37 < stickster> OK, rharrison will be responsible for putting this together.
15:37 < quaid> one other thing ... we can include a field for
contacts, since many of us know people now at the various publications
15:37 < stickster> rharrison: You think a week would be enough time for this?
15:37 < stickster> quaid: Oh, good call!
15:38 < rharrison> yeah, I'll at least have the big names in a week.
15:38 < quaid> rharrison: you can start the email thread, too, ja?
15:38 * quaid will reply with what he has and who he knows :)
15:39 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has quit [Read error: 110
(Connection timed out)]
15:39 < stickster> woo1
15:39 < quaid> ok, roll on?
15:40 * quaid is going to have to bail in ~5 min
15:40 < rharrison> k, /Marketing/PressContacts sound like a good place?
15:40 < quaid> and maybe /Marketing/Publications?
15:41 < stickster> Sure
15:41 < stickster> or
15:41 < stickster> Marketing/Press/Publications and Marketing/Press/Contacts
15:41 < stickster> Easier to link and agg
15:41 < quaid> ah, there
15:41 < rharrison> I would think that would be about publications we
work on. Meh, wiki pages can be moved.
15:41 < quaid> wiki rule #172: "When in doubt, use a / "
15:41 < stickster> quaid: There's a Marketing/Press already too
15:42 < stickster> Ah, that's the ticket.
15:42 < stickster> At least, see if that page suffices.
15:42 < quaid> would you mind ...
15:42 < stickster> I'll do it :-)
15:43 < quaid> if we jumped to the end so i can help give status there
before I vaporize?
15:43 < quaid> last four items on /Tasks
15:43 -!- TitaX [n=titax@fedora/TitaX] has joined #fedora-mktg
15:43 < quaid> < stickster> wtf? how did I get those assigned to me??!!?
15:43 < stickster> hahaha
15:44 < quaid> stickster: is that a fair assessment of what we need
you and Max to do?
15:44 < quaid> and I should remove gdk from that list so he isn't
overly overrepresented, and you promise to kick him from the room and
not help and go have a nap instead?
15:44 < stickster> Max and I are going to be hitting this hard on
Monday first thing.
15:44 < quaid> you wtf the press kit is?
15:45 < quaid> I think of it as a single page to hit e.g. wiki/Press
or fp.o/press
15:45 < stickster> Nope, but we will hammer it out.
15:45 < quaid> that has base content and links to all appropriate places
15:45 < quaid> ok
15:45 < stickster> Talking points first.
15:45 < quaid> word there
15:45 < stickster> Press release flows from that.
15:45 < stickster> (partly drafted already, we'll likely critique what
RH Marketing has done.)
15:45 < quaid> from that I'll update the 'Local Release Announcement'
process and source material
15:45 < stickster> by which I mean, *they* have partially drafted it.
15:45 < stickster> maybe completely at this point.
15:46 < quaid> for the en_UK version (which will grudingly accept in
en_US), our own jonrob has agreed to write the whimsical release
announcement.
15:46 < stickster> I have a few ideas on what a Press Kit might
consist of, but we'll deal in details starting on Monday.
15:46 * quaid wanted to put jonrob on the spot on the permanent record
15:46 < stickster> the word "quid" better be in there somehwer.e
15:46 < quaid> logbots, got that?!?
15:46 * stickster fires his typist.
15:46 < quaid> I like "fiver"
15:47 < quaid> oh, and last of the list item to run over ...
15:47 < quaid> the SSS itself
15:47 < quaid> in Docs yesterday we decided we had done as much this
release as we could
15:47 < quaid> things are going on anyway, etc.
15:48 < quaid> we made progress but didn't get the system in place in
time, lesson learned
15:48 < quaid> so we'll not try to do too much cleverness at this
point, just use the gathered content, modify as we go, and clean-up
just after F9 release
15:48 < stickster> quaid: Some of this *might* flow from me and Max.
15:48 * quaid has already noted that in the shed-yool
15:49 < stickster> Really what it needs is a few hours where we can
ditch some of the other BS going on and just concentrate on the
marketing stuff.
15:49 < quaid> stickster: hey, if you guys get all hot-on-the-ball, go for it
15:49 < quaid> if you do that though ...
15:49 < stickster> Nobody hold your breath, but we do tend to GTD
pretty well when we do f2f
15:49 < quaid> try to pull in someone like choke; even if it means
after hours a bit
15:49 < quaid> share that wiki editing love, too
15:50 < stickster> Absolutely, there will be other folks there too
15:50 < quaid> ok, them's my points
15:50 < stickster> That's the main reason I'm going to RDU -- to work
directly with the CorpMarketing folks
15:50 * quaid jets
15:50 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has joined #fedora-mktg
15:52 < stickster> Bye quaid
16 years
Re: R: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
by Grady Laksmono
Hi Samuele,
I'm going to use it for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party
Thanks,
Grady
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Samuele Storari
<sstorari(a)byte-code.com> wrote:
> Oh... sorry I dunno the fire was lived apart.
> May I could modify it tomorrow, or u can use it in this way. Let me know ur purpose. :)
>
> Ciao
> Samuele
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Grady Laksmono" <gradyfausta(a)laksmono.com>
> A: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
> Inviato: Giovedì, 17 aprile 2008 18:29:05 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna
> Oggetto: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
>
> Oh i see, it's really nice and I like it. I'm going to send this to
> the printing service and ask for a price quote for this banner :)
>
> Thanks all,
> Grady
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro> wrote:
> > Grady Laksmono wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Samuele,
> > > That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur?
> > >
> >
> > That is supposed to be blue fire, it was one concept we pushed during the
> > theme development (we thought it looks cool and is a tie-in with the Fedora
> > blue identity) but it was abandoned recently.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari <sstorari(a)byte-code.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've
> > uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead.
> > > > Let me know ur impression. ;)
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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16 years
Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
by Grady Laksmono
Hi Samuele,
That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur?
Thanks,
Grady
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari <sstorari(a)byte-code.com> wrote:
> Hi
> U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead.
> Let me know ur impression. ;)
>
>
> Samuele
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grady Laksmono" <gradyfausta(a)laksmono.com>
>
>
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:39:58 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
>
> That would be great Samuele,
> I've got the fliers and USB design from the other topic in the mailing
> list. I guess starting out with posters would be great.
>
> - Grady
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Samuele Storari
> <sstorari(a)byte-code.com> wrote:
> > I don't see any poster or material for the new release, but I can do something.
> > I will post it on the Wiki ASAP so we can have a base of work.
> >
> > Ciao
> > Samuele
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grady Laksmono" <gradyfausta(a)laksmono.com>
> > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>, fedora-art-list(a)redhat.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:39:35 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
> > Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
> >
> > Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get
> > the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce
> > the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Grady
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono
> > <glaksmono(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for
> > > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the
> > > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but
> > > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they
> > > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a
> > > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better
> > > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora
> > > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9
> > > Release Party.
> > >
> > > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be
> > > really appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Here's the links for more detailed information:
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party
> > > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487
> > > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Re...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Grady Laksmono
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party
> > >
> >
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16 years
Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
by Grady Laksmono
That would be great Samuele,
I've got the fliers and USB design from the other topic in the mailing
list. I guess starting out with posters would be great.
- Grady
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Samuele Storari
<sstorari(a)byte-code.com> wrote:
> I don't see any poster or material for the new release, but I can do something.
> I will post it on the Wiki ASAP so we can have a base of work.
>
> Ciao
> Samuele
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grady Laksmono" <gradyfausta(a)laksmono.com>
> To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>, fedora-art-list(a)redhat.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:39:35 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers
>
> Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get
> the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce
> the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :)
>
> Thanks,
> Grady
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono
> <glaksmono(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for
> > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the
> > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but
> > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they
> > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a
> > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better
> > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora
> > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9
> > Release Party.
> >
> > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be
> > really appreciate it.
> >
> > Here's the links for more detailed information:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party
> > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487
> > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Re...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Grady Laksmono
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party
> >
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16 years
Fedora 9 Release Party Flyer Help
by Jeffrey Tadlock
As many are aware we are trying to get as many global release parties
to happen near the Fedora 9 launch time frame as we can. The initial
announcement was posted [1] to the Ambassadors mailing list last week.
As part of this, we are hoping to make it as easy as possible for an
Ambassador to host one of these events. One of the hurdles I would
like to have cleared is the preparation of a Release Party flyer for
those that are not artistically inclined. That is what brings me to
the Fedora Marketing list - I am hoping one of you more
marketing/artistically inclined folks could lend me a hand.
We need a generic flyer that can be customized by people for their
local area. Something we can post to the wiki, they can download,
open it up and make a few small edits and take it to their local print
shop for hanging up at their local computer stores, college campuses,
places of employment, etc. I have worked up a basic flyer (very, very
basic flyer - I lack any artistics skills one would need for a good
flyer). I have posted it here:
http://jeffreyt.fedorapeople.org/release_party/f9_release_party_flyer.odt
Pretty bad, isn't it? So, show me what you can do. Work up a flyer
that looks better than my attempt so Fedora can have a decent looking
Release Party announcement flyer - I set the bar pretty low!
Thanks!
Jeffrey
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-April/msg000...
16 years
Atheros hires ath5k developer
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi
Not Fedora specific but considering that this has been a long standing
issue, we couldn't solve immediately without non-free bits, this is very
good news.
http://lwn.net/Articles/278132/rss
"When kernel developers talk about problematic hardware vendors, Atheros
often appears near the top of their lists. So this announcement from
Luis Rodriguez, a developer of the reverse-engineered ath5k driver, is
intriguing: "I write to you to inform you that I have decided to join
Atheros as a full time employee, as a Software Engineer, to help them
with their goals and mission to get every device of Atheros supported
upstream in the Linux kernel." What will come of this remains to be
seen, but if it truly signals a change of heart at Atheros (and isn't a
late April 1 posting), it is a most welcome development. "
Rahul
16 years
