Fedora 12 Marketing Schedule Review
by John Poelstra
Hi Marketing People,
I recently came across
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule . I would like to
add all the good information you have there to the master Fedora
schedule we have for all the teams.
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/ To do this we also
need to add real dates for all of the TBD items, etc.
The advantage of this approach is that you won't have to recreate a new
wiki page for each release and new schedules can be generated
automatically. We can also create iCal versions of the schedule for
importing to online calendars.
To accomplish all this we've found it works best to use use Gobby and
FedoraTalk to discuss and clarify everything in real time. Other
methods can work, but I have yet to see them work in a reasonably
efficient way.
I've set up a calendar http://whenisgood.net/marketing
Please indicate the times you are available and add your name. Once we
get enough responses I'll send out another email with the time to meet.
I'd like to meet w/in the next week.
Thanks,
John
14 years, 8 months
Please Help: Voice Wanted!
by Jonathan Roberts
In response to Mel's awesome e-mail, if anybody is interested in
helping me with some podcast interviews, particularly anyone who isn't
so shy about hearing their own voice, then get in touch.
I'm currently preparing an interview with the infrastructure team,
working on getting a time together right now, so the next few steps
for me are: a) finalise some times b) get some great questions put
together c) record it d) edit/transcribe it e) publish
If anyone is interested in doing any of these, particularly c) and d)
(I'll probably keep a) and e) for myself, would probably just get
messy with more than one person doing those!), I would be very
grateful :)
Cheers,
Jon
14 years, 8 months
Slogan task for schedule
by Paul W. Frields
Jack et al.,
In putting together the Design schedule, Mo Duffy, John Poelstra, and
I identified a marketing task that needs to be included. I'm dropping
the note here so you can add the dates in all the appopriate places.
F12 release slogan:
2009-08-27 -- open the call for suggestions
2009-09-17 -- final slogan is ready for websites/design
The process we used in F11 seemed to work well, and that should occur
in between those dates. Any required intermediate deadlines can be
set by the Marketing team but should also be included in the schedule.
--
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14 years, 8 months
Re: Comments about Microsoft and the GPL [OFF TOPIC]
by Yaakov Nemoy
2009/7/21 Kamin Horvath <mohaas05(a)fedoraproject.org>:
> I don't see that happening. Switching from the NT kernel to a *nix kernel
> would break compatibility with all existing windows applications. That's why
> the goal here is in virtualization.
We're getting off topic, but here we go.
The NT kernel is one of those fabled microkernels that everyone who
isn't Tannenbaum loves to hate. There's a single service that runs on
top of the NT bits that provide all the functionality in windows.
FWIW, the NT kernel is a very well designed stable, and fast kernel,
which is the pay off of microsoft using some of its billions to hire
some of the best engineering out there. Considering that drivers tend
to run in the space above the NT kernel, the stability issues that
Windows is known for suffering are technically user space issues,
which is where windows comes no where near the quality of many other
OSes.
That said, Microsoft could switch kernels all they want, provided they
havea run time system that provides certain user space and 'kernel'
functionality to windows programs. They could also virtualize an older
stripped down version of windows using one of the many fine VT
technologies out there on top of a *nix kenel (or any other kernel for
that matter). There has even been research into providing modules in
the Linux Kernel to provide the same process management features that
Windows provides in order to run windows programs natively on top of
Linux. Finally, last i checked, MS still hires a number of very bright
developers, and if they wanted to, they could switch their kernels any
time they wanted. They were originally planning on doing just about
the same work in Midori.
But yes, you're right, the goal here is virtualization. It has nothing
to do with MS and the GPL, just that their GPL contribution is a set
of drivers for Virtualization.
-Yaakov
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Affix <affix(a)ihack.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> With microsoft contributing to the kernel does this mean we may see a
>> unix based windows version. Personally I think windows should be unix
>> based as with mac OSX it will greatly increase stability and security.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, Nicolas Chauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2009/7/21 Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro>:
>> >> On 07/21/2009 12:04 PM, Keiran Smith wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Well looks like us linux users can look forward to some of the
>> >>> instabilities of windows in our Own Operating Systems. What are
>> >>> microsoft thinking
>> >>
>> >> I don't think you will be affected by this code unless you run a
>> >> virtualized
>> >> Linux guest on a Windows host and if you do that... well, probably you
>> >> already have bigger problems :p
>> > And that could be a problem for us, since the opposite (Windows on top
>> > of linux) isn't that equivalent.
>> > That's because of the hardware coverrage isn't the same. (3D graphics
>> > / raid drivers / others).
>> >
>> > One could say, it will be easier for Linux to live on top of windows.
>> > That way drivers could remains closed sources and linux not a real OS
>> > anymore, just providing few services on top of the real OS.
>> >
>> > While the European Union is presuring to remove out IE from the next
>> > windows bundle, /me think it would have been more valuable to only
>> > keep the very basic hardware support layers from the OS, so everything
>> > else could have been optional.
>> >
>> > At least I can see one way to have the announcement turn into our
>> > favour. It would be to have it compared with other opensourcing
>> > announcement such the AMD/ATI one. Even if the reasons behind have
>> > nothing to be compared, it could present theses as a success story for
>> > the free software development scheme.
>> > That should have be directed to end-users asking them to keep
>> > presuring on hardware vendosr for free software solutions over
>> > proprietary ones.
>> >
>> > Nicolas (kwizart)
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com
>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - <affix(a)fedoraproject.org>
>> - Free Software Foundation Associate - <keiran.smith(a)member.fsf.org>
>> - http://keiran-smith.net
>> - Call me on +44 (0) 131 208 4347
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Kamin Horvath
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> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mohaas05
>
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>
14 years, 8 months
Meeting notes 2009-07-21
by Mel Chua
Awesome meeting, everyone - thanks to all who attended and a big welcome
back to Jack, who'll be stepping back in to pick up on things as soon as
I hit the send button on this email. Thanks for tolerating my three
weeks of learning on the job, folks. You are awesome.
--Mel
Updated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule
Logs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Meetings#2009
Notes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-21/fedora-meeting...
Action Items, by person (aka mchua loves meetbot):
1. ianweller
1. ianweller to ping design list for help with FI
2. ianweller to eat this banana
3. stickster and ianweller to continue watching logistics/docs
zikula discussion, push Marketing specs/reqs up as needed
4. mchua to poke various groups for final spec requests for
FI, pass to stickster and ianweller
2. JonRob
1. JonRob to make workflow/content plan
2. JonRob and pcalarco to meet and discuss News workflow for FI
3. mchua
1. mchua to poke various groups for final spec requests for
FI, pass to stickster and ianweller
2. mchua find out if SeanDaly wants to teach a Classroom class
on marketing
3. mchua to take spevack's eloquence and update
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints and
redirect [[Talking Points]] to that
4. moixs
1. moixs to report back on news distribution network next week
5. pcalarco
1. JonRob and pcalarco to meet and discuss News workflow for FI
6. spevack
1. mchua to take spevack's eloquence and update
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints and
redirect [[Talking Points]] to that
7. stickster
1. stickster and ianweller to continue watching logistics/docs
zikula discussion, push Marketing specs/reqs up as needed
2. mchua to poke various groups for final spec requests for
FI, pass to stickster and ianweller
3. stickster kicking off a T-minus-1-week "What's looking
cool" thread
8. themayor
1. themayor to schedule F12 schedule sync-up with poelcat and
others who should attend
2. themayor to report on Alpha Readiness Meeting prep next week
3. themayor to report back on Publications List progress
14 years, 8 months
[[Talking points]] updated
by Mel Chua
A little wiki cleanup I said I'd do, for those who (like me a few hours
ago) are confused about this "Talking Points" thing.
[[Talking points]], [[TalkingPoints]], and [[Talking Points]] all
redirect to the refurbished
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints
which contains Max's description from today's meeting, and an
(incomplete) list of past talking points. Yay docs!
Sanity check from someone who's been around since F6 or so would be
good. That page is old; it had F9 stuff on it.
--Mel
14 years, 8 months
Reminder: Fedora Marketing weekly meeting, 20:00UTC #fedora-meetings
by Mel Chua
I'll be chairing for one more week as Jack recovers from jetlag.
(Welcome back, Jack!)
Meeting channel info and logging instructions have been updated
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings), thanks to Steven
Moix for pointing out the needed fix. The fastest way to catch up on
last week's meeting, this week's events, and the upcoming meeting's
agenda all at the same time is to look at these two sections of the F12
schedule (which I've just updated):
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule#General_tasks_not_t...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule#The_6_weeks_leading...
You see last week's meeting logs in full at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-14/fedora-meeting....
Since we're short on prep time (sorry, my fault!) I'm not going to be
sending out individual taskpings like I have before, but these are the
people who are listed on the F12 schedule page as having stuff this
week, and status as far as I know it - we're going to mention and then
skip the stuff marked "Done" unless someone chooses to bring it up
in-meeting.
* ianweller: choose FooBar platform (Done: zikula)
* JonRob: choose FooBar name (Done: Fedora Insight)
* mchua: see what we can do to help Fedora Classroom (done, but could be
done better)
* Sparks: Docs/Marketing 1-pg shiny release notes workflow (unknown status)
* poelstra, with spevack: integrate Marketing F12 schedule into main F12
schedule (unknown completion date, unknown status)
* moixs: renew the news distribution network (in progress)
--Mel
14 years, 8 months