Surveys Swags
by Tareq Al Jurf
Robyn Bergeron suggested that we use swags to make people complete our
surveys
For surveys I prefer that we use digital swags such as wallpapers and screen
savers. For example we create a new wallpaper every other day, once the user
finishes the survey he gets his wallpaper. I don't know if we can do that
with a program, but we will need the Fedora programmers to help us here.
regards
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14 years, 7 months
Slogan use
by Paul W. Frields
Our release slogan typically has been a fun community contribution
that ends up on the website at the main fedoraproject.org page. The
slogan is supposed to function as a call to action but it draws its
theme from the release-specific artwork. For F10 (Cambridge), which
featured the blazing Solar artwork, the slogan was "Fire it up." For
F11 (Leonidas), the slogan was "Reign" (which is inteded to allude to
the lion).
Although sometimes it's difficult to translate, we typically give the
translators a lot of latitude to recreate the slogan in a way that
makes sense in their culture and language.
Over the past couple releases, I've had a number of people contact me
privately or pop up on IRC and mailing lists asking about the slogan.
One of the most consistent questions is, does it reflect what we want
our front page to say about the Fedora Project in general?
In a way, it does, because we do believe the slogan is reflective of
the forward-looking, leading-edge distribution we produce. But should
a release-specific slogan change our project front page every six
months? I'm not so sure.
I'm wondering whether we should think about placing the slogan
prominently on the get-fedora page (get.fedoraproject.org) and having
something more general on the front page itself, in the space
currently occupied by the filler "Free your computer" in the mockups.
Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Fedora News on Zikula
by Dale Bewley
----- "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:28:23AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote:
> > Thanks for asking, Dale.
> >
> > On 09/10/2009 06:19 PM, Dale Bewley wrote:
> >> After reading https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight
> >> I wanted to login and see what Zikula looks like and how it would
> >> actually be used.
> >
> > The Fedora Insight (FI) workflow is being hacked on in Marketing, so
>
> > I've copied the Marketing list - actually, you have impeccable
> timing.
> > Robyn Bergeron has gone through and made a basic workflow (and her
> work
> > was the initial driver that made sure a lot of basic functionality
> in
> > Zikula was put in), but it's time to figure out the actual workflow
> for
> > News, so I was literally *just* about to ask the News list about
> this.
> >
> >> I created an account and logged in, but do I need to have my
> account
> >> authorized by someone? I don't see how to create a test post.
> >
> > It looks like all new accounts are being made administrators by
> default
> > on the test instance, so you can go to
> >
> https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=News&type=a...
>
> > to create new articles. This obviously needs to not be the case for
> the
> > live instance. ;) So we need someone from News to figure out the
> > workflow you would like.
> >
> >> I realize it's early, but it seems like a pretty flat hierarchy.
> I'm
> >> having trouble picturing how "FWN" would be carved out.
> >
> > The answer is "we don't know, and we were actually just about to ask
> you."
> >
> > Dale, would you or anyone from News be willing to tackle
> > https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/32? It shouldn't be
> that
> > hard, and the best way to carve out FWN so that the News team likes
> it
> > is to have the News team carve it out. ;)
>
> It's much easier than it seems to "carve out" space for any topical
> area in a CMS. The flatness essentially means things can be
> organized
> or reorganized at will very easily. That sounds kind of hazy and
> conceptual, but it's pretty simple to have URLs and navigation on the
> site work to support something like:
>
> http://insight.fedoraproject.org/weekly-news
> http://insight.fedoraproject.org/podcasts
> ...
I'll admit to being somewhat curmudgeonly on the whole CMS idea, but I am doing my best to put that aside and give it a fair shake. :) I can see benefits, but wonder what barriers to entry it might create.
I went back and read up on the fedora-news discussion of what was referred to as Fedora Journal and Project FooBar before being named Fedora Insight.
Most of the conversation took place in July
* http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-news-list/2009-July/thread.html
Here are my repeatedly edited thoughts which may or may not make sense by this point.
= How might it work? =
FWN has typically served to provide a roundup of the developments in Fedora over the previous week, comprised of several "Beats" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats which cover mailing list(s) etc for a topic. I can imagine a mapping of Categories in Zikula to a set of "Beats" or Topics. Presumably each Category produces its own RSS feed. Users could ignore FWN and subscribe to just a single beat.
Each Category may not have or need a beat writer, but if the concept of FWN is to continue there would have to be a means for a writer to adopt a Category and feel responsible for monitoring it. The beat writer or others could contribute stories at any point during the week. Once a week a beat writer could post a roundup of their beat including the usual sources, plus any postings made to the Fedora Insight category during the week.
A FWN editor could then gather these beat roundups into a larger roundup called FWN (or something else) for publishing with a ToC and a summary abstract. That post would go in the FWN category, and the RSS feed from that would become FWN.
That whole concept could also possibly go out the window, but that seems a shame. It seems to me there is value in a regularly scheduled newsletter. Otherwise, isn't it just a forum or a blog? If developers and others post enough news, maybe there won't be much need for a beat writer, or maybe the writer will feel discouraged that way.
The creation of categories is something to work out. They seem to be flat and would span the CMS. The mechanics of assigning beat writers is something to ponder. Also a means to notify an editor that a category round up is complete would need to be pondered. Tags? Same old wiki page?
= Ease of adoption =
Putting my curmudgeon hat back on... Posting content is going to be very inconvenient without the leverage of wiki markup. Constructing links to list postings, wiki content, other news items will be much more painful. Perhaps there are Zikula plugins to recreate some functionality like the <ref></ref> <references /> in mediawiki. Such plugins would require explanation to new beat writers. I reckon way more newcomers will be familiar with Mediawiki.
It seems to me this could make it harder to attract beat writers. Maybe that's only a personal bias. Maybe more time poking Zikula will yield more optimism, but it's time spent poking. (I'll continue to poke some more)
Besides all the logistics, this is the biggest problem to me as a beat writer. I am loathe to hand code HTML. Beat writers burn out all the time. The more painful it is, the quicker the burnout. Life's hard though. :)
It's getting late. I hope that was somewhat useful.
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14 years, 7 months
RE: Fedora News on Zikula
by Simon Birtwistle
Sorry for top-post, on my mobile. An editor is awaiting packaging, as our first efforts ran into licensing issues. The plan is to get FI up and running asap with a basic news service, and we'll look into more complex workflows (including notification/category based permissions) post Fedora 12. We've been hitting some fairly hard scheduling requirements for FI, and we've done well to get as far as we have in the time so far.
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>
Sent: 16 September 2009 14:55
To: fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com; fedora-news-list(a)redhat.com
Subject: Re: Fedora News on Zikula
On 09/16/2009 09:18 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Agreed, no one should have to hand code HTML to do this work!
The way Zikula works on pt6 right now, they are going to have to hand
code HTML when posting an article if they are linking images and linking
within the document and out to other documents.
I'd imagine there are WYSIWYG editors available for Zikula but we don't
have any installed.
~m
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Call for Review : FEL 12 Release Notes (draft)
by Chitlesh GOORAH
Hello there,
We have drafted FEL'12 Release Notes, which we dearly want to hear your views.
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf
As you have read on fedora planet, many universities and small
startups are deploying Fedora Electronic Lab. Thus we hope that these
release notes will help them deduce whether they need to upgrade to
Fedora 12 or not with respect to their needs and design flow. As the
document reflects, 42 packages for electronic design and simulation
are now available for the EL-5 branch.
The document also entails some details about various patches we have
applied on our packages, which are not yet available under upstream
stable release. I'm happy to say have most of our upstream accepted
most of our patches, which is good news for the opensource eco-system.
For those who are eager to try our nightly FEL spins, please find the ISO here
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/electronic-lab/
Cheers,
Chitlesh Goorah
14 years, 7 months
Tracking FI infrastructure blockers in logistics
by Mel Chua
Those of you interested in the non-content, non-workflow aspects of FI
might want to follow this thread:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-September/000231....
I'm going to try to keep the get-a-platform-up logistics on logistics
(where they should be) and the strategic/content/writing/workflow
discussions here in marketing (where they should be) from now on, so
don't be surprised if a few threads get redirected.
This way, we can actually focus on Marketing in the Marketing team, not
-the-putting-up-of-various-infrastructure/design-bits-needed-to-make-Marketing-easier.
--Mel
14 years, 7 months
Meeting notes 2009-09-15
by Mel Chua
They're up on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009.
Highlights:
* Talking points sprint tomorrow night
* We've pretty much selected an F12 slogan! (Read the logs to find out
which one, or wait for Mo's announcement of the final pick in 2 days.)
* Marketing research is kicking ass. FUDCon sounds like a good
opportunity to do feedback-gathering from potential users.
* FI-infrastructure needs several critical blockers cleared this week;
if you can make or review packages, we need your help. See
https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&....
* FI content for the September 28 launch will start off with...
** Some material from Martin Duffy's "Fedora Fun Projects" rotation
** Some material adapted from Fedora Planet over the next two weeks -
Jonathan Roberts will be watching Planet for these
** Hopefully something from FWN - Dale Bewley is checking out the zikula
interface this week to see how this might work.
** Other ideas people might have?
--Mel
PS: As a side note, I'm greatly looking forward to the FI infrastructure
dust clearing so we can focus solely on content. After FI goes on
staging (September 21) and the pace eases a bit and the dust clears, the
infrastructure discussions about FI will move to the logistics list, and
we'll be left with the content and marketing strategy on this list.
14 years, 7 months
Podcasts for F12
by Paul W. Frields
For the Fedora 11 release, Jack, Mo, and I did a series of podcasts on
various topics from the Fedora 11 talking points. These podcasts
consisted of short interviews with the people responsible for the
features:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_podcasts
Making one of these podcasts doesn't require you to be on-site with
the person you're interviewing. You can do it with a set of simple
command line utilities, along with the Fedora Talk service:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_make_a_podcast
I've been working on a simpler program that does more of the work for
you, but it's not yet complete enough for me to recommend it to
everyone. Of course, if you have your own way of making a podcast,
that's just fine too. We do need to make both Ogg Vorbis and (eek)
MP3 because we want to be able to reach people regardless of platform.
What I would recommend is that we select four of the most compelling
talking points, hopefully spanning the different interest groups.
Then we ask for volunteers who would be willing to take up one of the
subjects, and arrange an interview with someone about the subject. I
can help find any Red Hat people involved, but it's not required that
a Red Hat engineer be the interview subject. In fact, if someone's
knowledgeable, they could do a monologue on the subject.
The "draft" podcast would be put on the volunteer's fedorapeople.org
site a week or two later, so people could download and critique
(kindly!), and then allow time for editing if needed, a week or two.
The final versions would be posted in an appropriate place and we
could generate traffic pointers through macro- and micro-blogs, and so
forth.
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