Call for Participation - Fedora 13 Talking Points
by Robyn Bergeron
Talking points are key highlights of the new release. They should be
compelling, but they will not necessarily be comprehensive. There are
different types of talking points for different types of people:
general desktop users/everyone, developers, and sysadmins. For the
Fedora 13 cycle, we will also have talking points to address some of
the Spins. They are meant to provide a short, effective answer to the
question, "What cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?"
Each cycle, the Marketing team compiles a short list of approximately
three talking points for each of these audiences for the upcoming
release. For Fedora 13, they're found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points
If you have a talking point that you feel meets the criteria found on
the talking points SOP page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP, add it to the the
table on the F13 page with supporting information. Please make your
contributions and changes on the wiki page, so that the Marketing team
can efficiently capture and consider your input.
The Marketing team will make final adjustments to the list of talking
points at their meeting on February 23, which will be announced on the
marketing list and is open to everyone. If you are interested in
attending the meeting, the agenda, location, and time details can be
found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings. Following
the meeting, the finalized list of talking points will be announced,
and posted to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points.
We welcome you to participate in the process!
Cheers,
-Robyn
14 years, 2 months
Wiki hints
by Paul W. Frields
As we create new wiki pages and categories, some words of advice:
* Don't use title case for pages. This can confuse searches sometimes,
and runs counter to what people expect from Wikipedia (arguably the
most popular wiki in the world).
INCORRECT: My New Page (OK, this is just a bad name!) :-)
CORRECT: My new page
The same goes for categories and any other pages.
* If you want to *redirect* to a category page, use a colon before the
category name in the redirect link. (This works for any page in
another namespace, although the effect is important in the case of
the Category: namespace.)
INCORRECT: #REDIRECT [[Category:Foo]] (this actually puts the
page in the category!)
CORRECT: #REDIRECT [[:Category:Foo]]
Hope this helps!
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14 years, 2 months
Re: Call For Participation writer for the talking points
by bhutto aamir
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:59:47 +0700
From: "Bhardwaj, Aadarsh" <aadarsh.b(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Call For Participation writer for the talking points
>It's seems great. I want to contribute, but I was inactive from a long
>time, but I want to contribute for this.
We are glad to hear that. :P
>Can you help me how can I re reactivate for it.
Sure Just follow the link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points and point out thoes features which you think should be a talkin point( dont forget to write down the reasons that why should this feature should be talking point)
>On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:16 AM, bhutto aamir <amir181920(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> TalkingPoints are key features of the new release that we want to point out
> they are meant to answer the question "so what cool stuff is in the latest
> release of Fedora?" So we are inviting *everyone* active/inactive to
> participate in writing the talking points of "Fedora 13"
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points
>
> Feel free to add-in features that you think should be a talking point and
> the reasons( if you see a feature and want it to be a talking point, put
> down the reasons why ) You can follow the Talking point SOP
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_Points_SOP if you want to know how
> we are making talking points for Fedora 13.
>
>
> Aamir A Bhutto
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aab
> =============================================
14 years, 2 months
Re: [SPAM] Re: I had a cool Idea why don't we put on an artshow!
by Jan Wildeboer
Its all about one thing - use The Open Source Way to cause change in other
fields of knowledge and craftmanship.
You see it happening in Music with Jamendo, sellaband. You see it in art
with etoy.com. And you see it in literature with CC books. You see it in
education.
We effectively "just" need to be catalyst and guidance. Take ego out and
focus on goals.
Jan
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To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
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Sent: Wed Feb 17 03:54:12 2010
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: I had a cool Idea why don't we put on an artshow!
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 10:02 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> The large majority of the Design Team is based outside North America
> (true, our greatest star *is* from NA), with strong presence in Europe
> and South America, but we also have contributors from Middle East and
> Far East.
>
This should/would be open to anyone in the project that did anything
artistic
> Beyond being a community, Fedora is software so the works are mostly
> digital... there is little need for shipping. However, flying people in
> North America... this is difficult.
>
The art wouldn't and should all be Fedora related, I wanted to show off
that were crative artistic people, people could show paintings,
sculptures, drawing, interpretive dance and digital works.
> > I think doing this in IRL gives "regular people" to the chance to walk
> > into a building and without even knowing it be exposed to freesoftware
> > and the culture that loves it.
>
> Having a "real" gallery with rooms and printed works is going to be
> *expensive*.
>
lesser know galleries shouldn't be as expensive and may do it for the
publicity. Also there could be people inside the project that run a
gallery or know someone who does... I'm not above begging :)
> PS: we weren't able to put together even the Picture Book -
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book, despite having
> budget and photographers.
Failing once shouldn't kill new ideas. If we want our
community/contributors/userbase/etc to grow we need to think outside of
the box and work on building up ideas insead of tearing them down.
We will never grow as a Project or as people if we just keep doing the
samething.
All of the Concepts I've seen so far
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork#Concepts.2C_WIP_Designs are
all about reaching for the stars. But is that what we are really doing?
Yes, I'm a noob so I don't have past failures looming over me, but
neither should anyone else, try something. Go for it. The advise given
to all Open Source projects is the release early and relase often, why
don't we fail early and fail often. Bad ideas are only bad once they
don't work.
Anyone who is interested in seeing where this could go lets brainstorm
the crap out of it here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRLartshow
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14 years, 2 months
I had a cool Idea why don't we put on an artshow!
by threethirty
Hello all:
I had an idea Brainstorming in #f-mktg. We were trying to come up with
ways to extend our reach. Getting Free Software/Linux people is awesome
but who else might be interested in Fedora? so I thought why don't we
put on a Fedora Project artshow?!?
Here is what I was invisioning...
* we somehow procure a gallery
* Fedorians bring in some art they had done
* we invite people from the art world to see it
* try to get written up in art mags (do they exist, if so which ones)
* thought this would be an awesome way to show that art and
freesoftware are great partners
* thought this would be a way that people could parade out that one
desgin they had for $fedoraVersionInThePast that just didnt make it
* would be a way to see the creative side of people we didnt know had
one (how many coders/marketing people/legal etc are also painters,
sculpters, etc)
If anyone likes this idea let me know and maybe we can make this
happen :)
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14 years, 2 months
Meeting minutes 2010-02-16
by Mel Chua
The short version: TALKING POINTS ARE GO! (They're off and running and
we'll be locking them down at next week's meeting.)
In a week, we went from "talking... points... blah... guh... how do we
do them again?" to rolling nicely along with F13's talking points - in a
way that's easily reproduced for F14, F15, etc...
Today: So Full Of Win. Thanks to everyone in Marketing who continues to
help us get there. :)
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-02-16/fedora-meeti...
(Also linked to from our meetings page, as usual.)
--Mel
14 years, 2 months
Survey Software
by David Nalley
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At the Events FAD we spent a good chunk of time looking at and working
on some of the Lime Survey dependencies. Unfortunately, they have
modified some (and they claim most) of the bundled libraries,
effectively forking them. We talked about a number of different
mitigation strategies. We can get a number of people involved and try
and get these modifications accepted upstream, however that is likely
at least a month and likely many months of slow moving work, with no
guarantee of success.
I've included the IRC conversation below that I had with one of the
limesurvey devs.
We talked about a number of solutions at events FAD, with suggestions
ranging from, pushing patches upstream, to using different software,
to forking.
The path of least resistance is using different software, and I found
one package called phpESP which looks ok, I haven't found any bundled
libs at all in a really brief perusal of source. The community seems
somewhat active (the latest version was released in Janary)
Soooo - please take a look and see if it meets MKTG's needs. I may try
and package this tonight regardless of MKTG's decision, but if someone
wants to beat me to it, I have a 4 hour trip back, so feel free to
pick it up.
09:35 c_schmitz: sorry for the lag - basically the issue is that you
guys bundle libraries (which every web app
does, and we break them out and bundle the package separately) but you
guys have modified at least one of
those libraries, so packaging the upstream library doesn't really
help, as we are missing those changes.
09:42 yes, ke4qqq
09:42 we modified almost all liberaries
09:42 due to bugs etc
09:43 we communicated these bugs to the devs of these these libraries mostly
09:43 but they are very slow to fix
09:44 so I don't recommend to break out any of teh packages
09:44 unfortunately our packaging guidelines don't permit us to not -
(and debian is the same way)
09:45 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries
09:45 well, then you have a problem
09:50 I would not know how to solve this
09:51 using your bundled libraries will introduce certain bugs
09:51 bundled libraries=separate packages
09:51 yes
09:52 which on the other hand will mean that we will have bogus bugs
reported to us
09:52 for which we can't really give support
09:52 well we are actually discussing this at a Fedora Activity day -
and hopefully we can add an extra voice to
get those patches accepted upstream
09:52 won't be a short process unfortunately
09:53 but in the long run hopefully better for everyone
09:53 sure, but this is a huge problem with every packaging
09:53 Ubuntu packaging is a little more relaxed about that
09:53 yes it is (/me packages a number of webapps for Fedora and deal
with it a lot)
09:54 I totally appreciate your effort
09:54 It will help the LImeSurvey project to have to as a Linux package
09:54 better: Fedora package
09:55 you should also get in touch with nijaba
09:55 (Nicolas Barcet)
09:55 since he is the Ubunut packager
09:55 Ubuntu
09:55 ok, I'll do so
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14 years, 2 months
Upcoming Fedora 13 Schedule Tasks
by John Poelstra
Start End Name
Mon 15-Feb Mon 22-Feb Create Talking Points
Mon 22-Feb Mon 01-Mar Create Release Slogan
Thu 25-Feb Thu 25-Feb Alpha Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting
Thu 25-Feb Mon 01-Mar Create Alpha Announcement (Marketing & Docs)
Mon 01-Mar Mon 29-Mar Feature Profiles
Tue 02-Mar Tue 02-Mar Alpha Public Availability
14 years, 2 months
Talking Points SOP: status update, next steps
by Robyn Bergeron
In the marketing meeting / post-meeting SOP discussion last week, the
timeline was decided of putting out a "call for participation" on the
Talking Points on either Friday or Monday. Since it is now Monday,
we need to do it today :) Which means we need to (1) finalize the SOP,
(2) send out the email to the appropriate lists.
Ryan Rix and I worked up the Talking Points SOP this evening /
morning. A (very) rough draft is up at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP. (We were both
pretty tired but decided to knock out a first go at it; there is
probably some good content missing from what we discussed in last
week's marketing meeting, and post-marketing-meeting Talking Points
SOP discussion. Eyeballs! Feedback! Please!)
If anyone is around in the morning (7am Pacific, 10am Eastern, ish) -
I will be online finishing the editing on the SOP and sending out the
email CFP on F13 Talking Points. If anyone wants to hop on and help,
that would be AWESOME - or feel free to contribute on the wiki page if
you get to it before I do. One thing I would like to add to the SOP
(since I just thought of it 3 seconds ago!) is the content of the
email to be sent out requesting participation in Talking Points
development. If someone would like to jump in and do that, that would
be great.
Finally, the other thing discussed in the marketing meeting was that
we should pre-populate the F13 Talking Points page with some items as
a point to start from. A number of community members have already
jumped in and done some filling in the blanks there, so I think we
have a sufficient starting point to go from - but feel free to jump in
and add anything that is missing. The F13 Talking Points page is at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points.
David Ramsey did an awesome job filling in some of the proposed
Talking Points, and Ryan mailed him earlier this evening / morning to
see if he would be interested in talking with us about how / why he
picked his proposed Talking Points, so we can add some of that
information to the SOP. I don't think this part of the SOP
necessarily needs to be finished prior to us requesting Talking Point
proposals, but I think it would be insightful to other community
members. David said he'd be happy to talk with us about it, so I'd
just like to say, THANKS DAVID! - and hopefully we can synchronize on
that soon.
Cheers!
-Robyn
PS. For reference: Meetbot log of further discussion on Talking Point
SOP that occurred post-marketing-meeting:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-02-09/fedora-mktg.2010-...
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