There is one reason for using ow.ly URL shortener and that is it allows the person posting via hootsuite to track engagement with a post.  I would rather see a URL shortener that is fedora branded being used if possible.


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 8:02 PM Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/11/2015 10:53 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:

Yes,  I'm aware that it is passed through t.co. If it counts the links as the same amount of characters,  we might still want to keep the shortened URLs for aesthetics, as long links don't look very good on mobile.

IMHO, a full link is more aesthetically appealing than a bunch of random characters, and more usable too -- you know what you are clicking on before you click it. Twitter, even though it passes thrrough their shortener, will display a portion (if not all) of the link in the timeline, rather than the shortened link.

Unless you have a specific objection to using a shortener,  I'm assuming.

my objections to using link shorteners are pretty much summed up by this article:

http://oleb.net/blog/2012/08/please-dont-use-url-shorteners-on-twitter/

regards,
ryanlerch

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 7:48 PM Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/11/2015 10:34 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
On 11/11/2015 10:03 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote:
Hi Ryan,

I think the use of a link shortener is adequate for Twitter. This is because they have a character limit, and using a shortener greatly helps increase the amount of text you can have in a tweet. Twitter counts your link's characters even though it passes it through its own link gateway.
This is incorrect -- try crafting a new tweet on twitter.com with 115 characters, then add a link with more that 25 characters -- it will let you post it. All links on twitter go through the t.co link shortener.

cheers,
ryanlerch

Cheers,
Chaoyi

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 19:01 Ryan Lerch <rlerch@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Just wondering what people think about not using any link shorteners on
the official Fedora twitter feed. Twitter actually passes all links in
tweets through their own t.co/ link shortener, so using another one is
just (IMHO) unnecessarily obfuscating the link from our followers on
twitter. (twitter presents all t.co links as the full text, but the link
itself is t.co)

Looking back through the feed, the main link shortener being used is
ow.ly, which i assume is being done by whoever is using Hootsuite.

cheers,
ryanlerch
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Also, have a look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/fedora/status/664172103525146624

If you inspect the link in that tweet, (or copy the link address to see the href of it), you will see that the link is actaully t.co. So these links are passing through t.co, then redundantly redirecting on to ow.ly, then on to the actual site we want.

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