Who's up to the challenge of creating an experimental rss feed for Fedora tutorial screencasts in theora that we can use in miro out of the box in Fedora 9? I've been trying to find a spare machine at work to host this sort of thing... but I've just utterly failed. I was hoping to surprise everyone with a workable demo that you could submit theora vids to for me to host as a starting point for figuring out how to really deal with open video content in a user accessible way. I think miro is a workable solution. But I've failed to deliver. So now I'm asking everyone on this list for help. Can someone put together a simple rss feed with just a couple of theora videos that miro understands as a channel? It doesn't have to be a huge hosting commitment. We don't need to start with a Broadcast Machine implementation and use Miro's inherent ability to speak torrent. We should be able to demo a feed using video houses in Fedora's people space.

Once we have that, we can move on beyond screencasts into web camera interviews and so on and so on.

So who's game. I really have to apologize for not having the time to get a hosting instance together for videos as a starting point for a full discussion.

Who's up to the challenge of creating an experimental rss feed for Fedora tutorial screencasts in theora that we can use in miro out of the box in Fedora 9? I've been trying to find a spare machine at work to host this sort of thing... but I've just utterly failed. I was hoping to surprise everyone with a workable demo that you could submit theora vids to for me to host as a starting point for figuring out how to really deal with open video content in a user accessible way. I think miro is a workable solution. But I've failed to deliver. So now I'm asking everyone on this list for help. Can someone put together a simple rss feed with just a couple of theora videos that miro understands as a channel? It doesn't have to be a huge hosting commitment. We don't need to start with a Broadcast Machine implementation and use Miro's inherent ability to speak torrent. We should be able to demo a feed using video houses in Fedora's people space. Once we have that, we can figure out how best to host additional screencast material as part of our Project communication strategy. I think doing torrents might make some sense, but we have to talk with infrastructure concerning hosting space requirements. And we'll have to figure out how the access control model we want to use...well I should say 'you' want to use. I'm very sure that the policy with regard to editorial control of an official Fedora video feed should be in the hands of the marketeers with input from docs and translators. Once we have that, we can move on beyond screencasts into web camera interviews and so on and so on. So who's game. I really have to apologize for not having the time to get a hosting instance together for videos as a starting point for a full discussion.

For a couple of smallish videos, try http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/

If there is need for an initial set of videos, I can put up my Inkscape and GIMP screencasts, but they do not have a sound track (and will not get one *from me*, I may be more or less bad at writing English, but, trust me, I am absolutely awful at *speaking* it).

Here's what I'd like to see. I'd like to see a screencasting jam session at FUDCon with the aim of creating a handful of casts meant to populate a first cut at a miro channel. Maybe even do some low quality webcam videos using cheese...sort of like candid interviews. Place the theora vids into the fedora people space, and drop a formatted email into this mailing list so someone, me perhaps, can scrape them to produce an xml feed. And of course I'm not going to be there. -jef

Who's up to the challenge of creating an experimental rss feed for Fedora tutorial screencasts in theora that we can use in miro out of the box in Fedora 9? I've been trying to find a spare machine at work to host this sort of thing... but I've just utterly failed. I was hoping to surprise everyone with a workable demo that you could submit theora vids to for me to host as a starting point for figuring out how to really deal with open video content in a user accessible way. I think miro is a workable solution. But I've failed to deliver. So now I'm asking everyone on this list for help. Can someone put together a simple rss feed with just a couple of theora videos that miro understands as a channel? It doesn't have to be a huge hosting commitment. We don't need to start with a Broadcast Machine implementation and use Miro's inherent ability to speak torrent. We should be able to demo a feed using video houses in Fedora's people space. Once we have that, we can figure out how best to host additional screencast material as part of our Project communication strategy. I think doing torrents might make some sense, but we have to talk with infrastructure concerning hosting space requirements. And we'll have to figure out how the access control model we want to use...well I should say 'you' want to use. I'm very sure that the policy with regard to editorial control of an official Fedora video feed should be in the hands of the marketeers with input from docs and translators. Once we have that, we can move on beyond screencasts into web camera interviews and so on and so on. So who's game. I really have to apologize for not having the time to get a hosting instance together for videos as a starting point for a full discussion. -jef -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Valent Turkovic I'm volunteering to make beginners "How to use Fedora" videos. Just where to send my theora videos. I plan to make them dual language (english and croatian). I'm very interested with your work and I think I can used it to promote FOSS especially Fedora in my country. Is your videos already done?

Would you send it to my email address the english version?

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I'm volunteering to make beginners "How to use Fedora" videos. Just > where to send my theora videos. I plan to make them dual language > (english and croatian). We do not have a place dedicated to host videos. For now, you can keep short videos in your people.fedoraproject.org space. As a first cut at organizing the videos, I imagine we could do something similar to what we are doing now with the planet and have individuals with videos create a short formatted file which describes the videos they are making available and harvest that information from people.fedoraproject.org and generate the appropriate miro feed putting all the videos together. -jef -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi, I hope you like these screencasts I made. > > Fists I need to tell you that English is not my primary language (that > will soon be obvious to you), I can't expect everyone who has the ability to make video to be able to do English audio. We are going to have to work out a means of providing a text transcript that can be translated and from which additional audio tracks can be created based on that translation. I've updated av-splice script to work with gst 0.10 and placed it on the screencasting page. I'll make you a deal. If you are willing to experiment with native language videos and written transcripts I'll provide an English audio track to replace the a Croatian audio track. If you want to, please pick the tutorial subject you like best and produce a native language audio theora and provide a rough english translation transcript as text. Make sure the transscript includes timestamps indicated when each of the sentences should start. I will then use the written transcript and create an English audio track that can replace the Croatian track. I'll even do a screencast of me doing it! -jef

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi, I hope you like these screencasts I made. > > Fists I need to tell you that English is not my primary language (that > will soon be obvious to you), I can't expect everyone who has the ability to make video to be able to do English audio. We are going to have to work out a means of providing a text transcript that can be translated and from which additional audio tracks can be created based on that translation. I've updated av-splice script to work with gst 0.10 and placed it on the screencasting page. I'll make you a deal. If you are willing to experiment with native language videos and written transcripts I'll provide an English audio track to replace the a Croatian audio track. If you want to, please pick the tutorial subject you like best and produce a native language audio theora and provide a rough english translation transcript as text. Make sure the transscript includes timestamps indicated when each of the sentences should start. I will then use the written transcript and create an English audio track that can replace the Croatian track. I'll even do a screencast of me doing it! -jef -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

I think that's a great idea. Get a couple, small screencasts right near the desktop on a LiveCD or whatnot. Besides, these videos are pretty small. What's a few megabytes between friends?

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Clint Savage wrote: > >> >> I think that's a great idea. Get a couple, small screencasts right >> near the desktop on a LiveCD or whatnot. Besides, these videos are >> pretty small. What's a few megabytes between friends? > > Quite a lot in a live cd atleast. You have to figure out which > applications to remove. Someone should be working on a minimal RPM set suitable as a base for single-function live images.

What if this was on the install DVD to start?  Maybe having Miro installed in the default LiveCD with the rss from the fedora channel preloaded?

> > I agree with Nicu on this. I think there's reason to justify something like > 5-10 MB on a LiveCD to give a good intro to Fedora. I did the cheese demo > and it > was actually pretty hefty, but most of the ones that Paul did were no more > than 5MB. I suppose we'd be going right to the end of the CD and have to > remove *one* thing. > What if this was on the install DVD to start? Maybe having Miro installed > in the default LiveCD with the rss from the fedora channel preloaded? > > Cheers, > > Clint This sounds like a great idea! How would users be notified that there is Miro with a rss Fedora chanell setup for them? Some short readme on the desktop? A short video showing using Miro with Fedora channel? Some html page readme on first firefox startup? Nothing of the above? Something totally different?