I'm in. I do have some pictures already, going back to Core 1, of not only myself, but of various friends and an ex-g/f with Fedora swag or desktop i the background.

On Thu, 22 May 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote: We could do this after F10 and have a F10 Live CD. Or maybe that's too simple. -- ian

Jeff Spaleta wrote: How about a blue USB pen drive? Bonus point if the stick has a small Fedora logo printed on it. Like this: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/bluepen.jpg (of course, a better photo, a more Fedora-ish blue and a little logo sticker added) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Alejandro Acosta <aacosta(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote: If this isn't it... its definitely the right direction. My concern however with this particular object is that it might be too small to consistently photograph well. Especially how it would look sitting over the blue fedora polo-shirts or other fedora swag people might be wearing. It's so inexpensive that this could actually be attempted at an upcoming event where there is a Fedora booth to see how it looks. But in general I like the direction. I like the idea of not using "the" fedora brand as the symbol. People can wear or not wear fedora branded swag or stickers as they see fit, when they have their candid taken with the object. In fact I would love to see pictures of people decked out in upstream swag without a single Fedora branded item in the picture, but holding the brand neutral symbol for the ideals of the Fedora project. -jef

On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 07:47 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: My personal opinion is that ribbons are tired, and wearing Fedora schwag or stickers would kind of defeat the point. Whatever the object is needs to attract the eye, so if it's something, say, blue, it would almost be better if there's no other blue around to detract from the image. (Although I'm sure any artist would potentially come up with a brilliant exception.) What if we had a ceramic or something made of one of the blue speech balloons Mo Duffy designed? The *point* of it would be to be *empty*. Because Fedora is waiting for you to write your own story -- to personalize the community or the distro in some way, to leave or make your mark as desired. This lends itself to something where the recipients of the picture -- *not* the originators -- can even write their own words into the balloon by scribbling on the picture, or editing the graphic. Isn't that remixing also part of the point? And the freedom that you have to do what you will with what we give you? Ponder on this a bit, and let me know what you think. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

2008/5/23 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;: Could we fabricate these things for small cost so that ambassadors and other individuals could easily obtain them? We are too global to have a single physical object being shipped around for this to scale. I'd say speech balloon on a coffee mug, but coffee mugs are somewhat mundane. If we made it a game, the rules would be write one word in the speech bubble in your native language that you think best matches the ideals of the Fedora project. -jef"my word would be cylon"spaleta

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Russell Harrison <rtlm10(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I really don't want to encourage photo editting. I actually prefer raw candids. And I really want a common physical object...because a common physical object is going to impose some general consistency on how things are framed and takes much effort out of the eventual editting down of the material into something like a book. If you encourage too much abstraction when you set up the parameters as to what you ask for, then you going to make it much more likely to end up with images you simply have to throw out for some reason. You also need to realize that it might not actually be legal to take pictures of things like sculptures in some circumstances and use them in commercial ways without the owner or artist's permission. Knowing what is allowed can be complicated, and I'd really not encourage that sort of thing, and end up having to track down whether or not that object in the image is something we can reproduce a likeness of commercially. Totally not worth the pain. If we do it.. the parameters need to be quite strict as to what we can accept. It needs to be reasonably framed (portrait framing we can give guidance on that... none of that 200 ft away next to a panoramic image stuff which focuses on the vista and not the people) individuals or small groups...who expressly give consent to have their images used under a CC license we prefer. It need to have a common physical object that we are sure can be photographed because we picked it. And as little else as possible that is distinguishable in the background that holds a risk of having its image protected for commercial use. -jef

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Russell Harrison <rtlm10(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Nope fully disagree. I think we should be a specific as possible... and ask people to use a specific object or shape. I think the more abstract the pictures are..the less cohesive the concept. The point is not to collect random candids of people, just because they are people, even if they are our people. The point isn't to encourage people to be wacky and expressive in how they take their pictures. People could already be taking pictures like that and sharing them. I don't see the value in archiving all possible pictures from a project marketing standpoint. The point of this specific proposal it to draw attention to the symbolic relationships between people and our ideals. One object..repeated over and over and over again. Not 3 objects or 5 objects..or random objects. We stress the shared commitment through repetition of the single object as a single repeated symbol. Again I disagree. The more constrained the parameters the more quality we get coming in the door and the less work for everyone who wants to make use of these images as tools for specific marketing goals. Again these pictures are not meant to be be expressive...they are meant as tools to meet a specific goal...and as such it is only fair to state upfront to the people creating the tools what the constraints are. We have package submission criteria for a reason. Those quality assurance reasons are just as valid for content submissions. Having a big pile of candids that are all over the place in terms of composition and style that we can't easily sort is just a big garbage pile.... not unlike the a big pile of random desktop wallpapers that some sites collect for users to make use of. I think its important that we give our contributors the responsibility to submit appropriate material. And we do that by be explicit about what we are looking for. Don't open up a submission call to on all possible potential uses for images. Be narrow and stay focused...and ask the same of the submitters. If in the future we come up with another reason to collect images, then we do it again with different criteria and constraints. If we develop a gallery process which expects people to drop in low quality material.. is that really an appropriate methodology to encourage the type of contribution we want to see project wide? I don't think so. If we do it, we do it in a constrained and tight way that encourages and expects people to submit material which is unlikely to be thrown out based on quality. I'd much rather hold a repository of quality images that meet well defined submission criteria then to have a big pile of images that we feel compelled to keep simply because they were submitted and we'd feel bad throwing away a good faith submission. -jef I think your are also thinking that we only have to have one set of physically published images. That may not actually make sense, since we are as global as we all. We might not be able to do a single official publication to meet the underlying goal. We may very well use an on-demand process, such that different project subgroups could have their own mix of images in the publishable material they use, beyond just a single coffee table book. If we in the US found a way to get candids of public officials holding the symbol of our ideals, that'd be great for a US book...but not so useful for say Brazil... and vice-versa. Public property or government property is one thing, private property is another. For example a private university campus like say Princeton has a number of statues and pretty buildings. And while you are welcome to walk around and enjoy the scenery, even take pictures for personal use, you may not have the right to use images of them commercially without express permission of the University. -jef

Thats a great Idea, We should establish a users experience book with a picture of him/her holding a fedora logo 1st to publish on-line and then to do some supporting products, such as posters, hard copy books, even some coffee tables and so..... I guess this must be considered in upcoming meetings. I guess fedora could use some of the money and we could also use it in charity as mentioned, but as always when we charity we talk publicity. thanks for such great idea Peace On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Yaakov Nemoy <loupgaroublond(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Saadaldine AlSaidi IT Manager AlShora International Tayyouneh Rotary Old Saida Road - Princess Buldg. Beirut - Lebanon Tel: +961 1 391140 Fax: +961 1 381140 Mob: +961 3 934285

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Jeff Spaleta wrote: Could that object be a ninja related item (I am not sure what item) so we can call the photo collection something like "Fedora ninjas from around the world"? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro