7:11 a.m.
Hello everyone.
As per last night's meeting, I'm jumping in on this ticket. Just wanted
to touch base with those currently working on this to get a sense of
where things are and what I can do to help.
Thanks!
James
2:32 p.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
On 03/31/2016 08:11 AM, James Bishop wrote:
Hello everyone.
As per last night's meeting, I'm jumping in on this ticket. Just wanted
to touch base with those currently working on this to get a sense of
where things are and what I can do to help.
Thanks!
James
Hi James! Thanks for coming out to the meeting on Wednesday.
In terms of this ticket, I think the place we're at now is really coming
up with a list of steps or ideas about how an organization could apply
to be an "affiliate" or "friend" of Fedora.
In the meeting, we decided a good place to put this for now would be on
this page.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Affiliates_SOP
For the task, I would consider the kind of things we as Fedora would
want to highlight and show that organizations, schools, companies, or
other groups are doing and using Fedora for.
Perhaps for a school… do you offer any courses that use Fedora? How has
using Fedora and open source software impacted your students? What have
your students produced using Fedora?
Things along those lines. I would approach this like a questionnaire of
sorts that an organization would fill out. It doesn't have to be perfect
right now, but having an initial list of steps or things to consider is
a good place to start and build off of!
Hope this helps clarify. Let us know if you have further questions!
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
9:59 a.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
Hi Justin!
Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
Cheers!
On 01/04/2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/31/2016 08:11 AM, James Bishop wrote:
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> As per last night's meeting, I'm jumping in on this ticket. Just wanted
>> to touch base with those currently working on this to get a sense of
>> where things are and what I can do to help.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> James
>>
>
> Hi James! Thanks for coming out to the meeting on Wednesday.
>
> In terms of this ticket, I think the place we're at now is really coming
> up with a list of steps or ideas about how an organization could apply
> to be an "affiliate" or "friend" of Fedora.
>
> In the meeting, we decided a good place to put this for now would be on
> this page.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Affiliates_SOP
>
> For the task, I would consider the kind of things we as Fedora would
> want to highlight and show that organizations, schools, companies, or
> other groups are doing and using Fedora for.
>
> Perhaps for a school… do you offer any courses that use Fedora? How has
> using Fedora and open source software impacted your students? What have
> your students produced using Fedora?
>
> Things along those lines. I would approach this like a questionnaire of
> sorts that an organization would fill out. It doesn't have to be perfect
> right now, but having an initial list of steps or things to consider is
> a good place to start and build off of!
>
> Hope this helps clarify. Let us know if you have further questions!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory
> jflory7(a)gmail.com
>
>
11:42 p.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
On 04/03/2016 10:59 AM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
Hi Justin!
Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
Cheers!
Yes, nothing is there yet, but the info we are looking at drafting up is
intended to go there.
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
8:18 a.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 00:42 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
On 04/03/2016 10:59 AM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>
> Hi Justin!
> Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
>
>
> Cheers!
>
Yes, nothing is there yet, but the info we are looking at drafting up
is
intended to go there.
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
--
marketing mailing list
marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/marketing@lists.fedoraproj
ect.org
Hi Justin,
Thanks for getting back to me yet. The big thing I was wondering about
was what was already done, since I saw a few names already attached to
the ticket. I was also concerned about stepping on toes due to going
ahead and doing stuff without checking in first.
The one question that I had was where I should put my work. Does it go
on the TRAC, or the wiiki?
Thanks!
--
James Bishopjames(a)jamesbishop.ca
11:44 a.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, James Bishop <james(a)jamesbishop.ca> wrote:
On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 00:42 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> On 04/03/2016 10:59 AM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> >
> > Hi Justin!
> > Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> Yes, nothing is there yet, but the info we are looking at drafting up
> is
> intended to go there.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory
> jflory7(a)gmail.com
>
> --
> marketing mailing list
> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/marketing@lists.fedoraproj
> ect.org
Hi Justin,
Thanks for getting back to me yet. The big thing I was wondering about
was what was already done, since I saw a few names already attached to
the ticket. I was also concerned about stepping on toes due to going
ahead and doing stuff without checking in first.
This is a totally normal thing to wonder about, and I have an answer for you:
Just Do It.
Do the things.
Your are implicitly powered, as a member of the Fedora community, to
dive in an contribute. You don't need my permission, or the marketing
team's, or anyone else's. Most of us would rather celebrate progress
than have you block on process. In the event that you do make a
mistake, the wiki is revision controlled, and we can revert it if we
need to, or migrate your work to a different place.
The one question that I had was where I should put my work. Does it
go
on the TRAC, or the wiiki?
Think of the wiki as the "whiteboard" or "working document," and the
Trac as the place where we track the task at hand. There can be
information sharing and flow between them, but generally, Trac is the
place where we update everyone with links and progress, and the wiki
is where we collaboratively edit the content.
Hope This Helps,
--RemyD.
--
Remy DeCausemaker
Fedora Community Lead & Council
<decause(a)redhat.com>
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org
12:19 p.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
Hi Remy,
That helps a lot. Thanks!
Regards,
James
james(a)jamesbishop.ca
Sent from my mobile device.
On Apr 4, 2016 1:45 PM, "Remy DeCausemaker" <decause(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, James Bishop
<james(a)jamesbishop.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 00:42 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>> On 04/03/2016 10:59 AM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Justin!
>> > Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> Yes, nothing is there yet, but the info we are looking at drafting up
>> is
>> intended to go there.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Justin W. Flory
>> jflory7(a)gmail.com
>>
>> --
>> marketing mailing list
>> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/marketing@lists.fedoraproj
>> ect.org
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> Thanks for getting back to me yet. The big thing I was wondering about
> was what was already done, since I saw a few names already attached to
> the ticket. I was also concerned about stepping on toes due to going
> ahead and doing stuff without checking in first.
This is a totally normal thing to wonder about, and I have an answer for
you:
Just Do It.
Do the things.
Your are implicitly powered, as a member of the Fedora community, to
dive in an contribute. You don't need my permission, or the marketing
team's, or anyone else's. Most of us would rather celebrate progress
than have you block on process. In the event that you do make a
mistake, the wiki is revision controlled, and we can revert it if we
need to, or migrate your work to a different place.
> The one question that I had was where I should put my work. Does it go
> on the TRAC, or the wiiki?
Think of the wiki as the "whiteboard" or "working document," and the
Trac as the place where we track the task at hand. There can be
information sharing and flow between them, but generally, Trac is the
place where we update everyone with links and progress, and the wiki
is where we collaboratively edit the content.
Hope This Helps,
--RemyD.
--
Remy DeCausemaker
Fedora Community Lead & Council
<decause(a)redhat.com>
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org
--
marketing mailing list
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http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
1:49 p.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Remy DeCausemaker <decause(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, James Bishop
<james(a)jamesbishop.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 00:42 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>> On 04/03/2016 10:59 AM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Justin!
>> > Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> Yes, nothing is there yet, but the info we are looking at drafting up
>> is
>> intended to go there.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Justin W. Flory
>> jflory7(a)gmail.com
>>
>> --
>> marketing mailing list
>> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/marketing@lists.fedoraproj
>> ect.org
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> Thanks for getting back to me yet. The big thing I was wondering about
> was what was already done, since I saw a few names already attached to
> the ticket. I was also concerned about stepping on toes due to going
> ahead and doing stuff without checking in first.
This is a totally normal thing to wonder about, and I have an answer for
you:
Just Do It.
Do the things.
/me loves this idea. It's one of the things that drew me to Fedora.
Unfortunately, it falls apart at times when it come to the reality of
FUNDING. We should add parenthetically; go to more meetings, and have your
soul die a bit as you do so.
Your are implicitly powered, as a member of the Fedora community, to
dive in an contribute. You don't need my permission, or the marketing
team's, or anyone else's. Most of us would rather celebrate progress
than have you block on process. In the event that you do make a
mistake, the wiki is revision controlled, and we can revert it if we
need to, or migrate your work to a different place.
This is true, Fedorans by basic nature want to help. We already have
processes to
avoid minutiae taking all of our time. RH are great sponsors,
but, they can do more. We are doing value adds for them. Reciprocity. To be
clear, I love Fedora, and am proud to be part of it. But that funding thing
is a mofo (and so arbitrary at times.)
> The one question that I had was where I should put my work. Does it go
> on the TRAC, or the wiiki?
Think of the wiki as the "whiteboard" or "working document," and the
Trac as the place where we track the task at hand. There can be
information sharing and flow between them, but generally, Trac is the
place where we update everyone with links and progress, and the wiki
is where we collaboratively edit the content.
Hope This Helps,
--RemyD.
--
Remy DeCausemaker
Fedora Community Lead & Council
<decause(a)redhat.com>
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org
--
marketing mailing list
marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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5:16 p.m.
New subject: [Marketing] Re: Marketing trac #222: Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Mark Terranova <doctorfoss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Remy DeCausemaker <decause(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, James Bishop <james(a)jamesbishop.ca> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 00:42 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> >> On 04/03/2016 10:59 AM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Justin!
> >> > Your link doesn't exist or has no text... Is it right?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers!
> >> >
> >> Yes, nothing is there yet, but the info we are looking at drafting up
> >> is
> >> intended to go there.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Justin W. Flory
> >> jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >>
> >> --
> >> marketing mailing list
> >> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/marketing@lists.fedoraproj
> >> ect.org
> >
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > Thanks for getting back to me yet. The big thing I was wondering about
> > was what was already done, since I saw a few names already attached to
> > the ticket. I was also concerned about stepping on toes due to going
> > ahead and doing stuff without checking in first.
>
> This is a totally normal thing to wonder about, and I have an answer for
> you:
>
> Just Do It.
> Do the things.
/me loves this idea. It's one of the things that drew me to Fedora.
Unfortunately, it falls apart at times when it come to the reality of
FUNDING. We should add parenthetically; go to more meetings, and have your
soul die a bit as you do so.
The recommendation here in this ticket was not "go to meetings" it was
to "do stuff."
Though not always fast or easy, meetings are a necessary part of doing
distributed decentralized work in open and public ways.
I don't think everyone on this list, or elsewhere Fedora, feels the
same way about meetings as you do MarkDude. We must not diminish the
time and effort that contributors put into making meetings happen,
which almost always have public agendas that are open to contributions
and suggestions, should you feel they are not maximally productive.
I would point to the Fedora Design team's re-worked meeting protocol
as a model for keeping meetings focused, task oriented, and
ticket-driven (described by mizmo here):
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/the-state-of-fedoras-design-team/
> Your are implicitly powered, as a member of the Fedora community,
to
> dive in an contribute. You don't need my permission, or the marketing
> team's, or anyone else's. Most of us would rather celebrate progress
> than have you block on process. In the event that you do make a
> mistake, the wiki is revision controlled, and we can revert it if we
> need to, or migrate your work to a different place.
>
This is true, Fedorans by basic nature want to help. We already have
processes to avoid minutiae taking all of our time. RH are great sponsors,
but, they can do more. We are doing value adds for them. Reciprocity. To be
clear, I love Fedora, and am proud to be part of it. But that funding thing
is a mofo (and so arbitrary at times.)
I think that funding and budgetary requests--though an important
issue--are somewhat out of scope for this thread.
If you would like to comment on budget impact and reciprocity, please
see my most recent requests to the Ambassadors--whom the Fedora
Council and Ambassador Steering Committee have empowered to spend (and
report) their own regional budgets as they see fit.
I'm still waiting on either reports, proposals, or delegation
selections from each region, which are necessary for us to continue
budget planning and allocation for FY17:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedorapro...
Thank you jbishop for taking the initiative on this ticket to help
bring more light to the places where Fedora is having a positive
impact outside of our community. This is an important role that
members of the CommOps team serve in the project, and can potentially
make a big difference :)
--RemyD.
--
Remy DeCausemaker
Fedora Community Lead & Council
<decause(a)redhat.com>
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org
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