From: "Alex Eng" <loones1595(a)gmail.com&gt; To: marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:17:40 PM Subject: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Hi, I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on translations and Zanata (platform we used for translation). There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility to get Fedora Magazine localised to reach out more to users. For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? (Raw format like txt, po, xml?) 2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before it is publish? (if localised, we might need to schedule QA for translations) 3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous Fedora Magazine? Would like to do some testing on Zanata. Regards, -- Alex Eng -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Alex, That would be *so* awesome. We use wordpress right now, so articles are written in HTML format. Is there a preferred format or workflow for getting our content into Zanata? --RemyD. -- Remy DeCausemaker <decause(a)redhat.com&gt; Fedora Community Lead & Council Member http://whatcanidoforfedora.org 308C A504 0B47 1503 C9D9 E670 E633 A79B 0BB0 F6D9 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Eng" <loones1595(a)gmail.com&gt; > To: marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:17:40 PM > Subject: Fwd: Fedora Magazine > > Hi, > > I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on translations and Zanata > (platform we used for translation). > > There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility to get Fedora > Magazine localised to reach out more to users. > > For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, > > 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? (Raw format like > txt, po, xml?) > 2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before it is publish? > (if localised, we might need to schedule QA for translations) > 3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous Fedora Magazine? > Would like to do some testing on Zanata. > > > Regards, > -- > Alex Eng > > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > List info or to change your subscription: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Hi, I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on translations and Zanata (platform we used for translation). There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility to get Fedora Magazine localised to reach out more to users.

For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? (Raw format like txt, po, xml?)

2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before it is publish? (if localised, we might need to schedule QA for translations)

3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous Fedora Magazine? Would like to do some testing on Zanata.

I've logged into http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/ with my FAS account. Username: aeng Can I please have access to pull source for each post? Regards, Alex Eng On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > On 10/16/2015 08:17 AM, Alex Eng wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on translations and Zanata > (platform we used for translation). > > There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility to get > Fedora Magazine localised to reach out more to users. > > > > Hi alex! > > We have discussed this in the past, but not much really came of it TBH, > so thanks for bringing this up again! It is defninely something that I > would love to see happen > > > For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, > > 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? (Raw format > like txt, po, xml?) > > Everything is stored in Wordpress -- the "source" of the posts could be > classed as a HTML snippet however, which may be able to be placed into > Zanata. There are also a bunch of different plugins for wordpress that > could be investigated to see if we could use those to distribute localized > content (this is where previous discussions focused on IIRC) > > 2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before it is > publish? (if localised, we might need to schedule QA for translations) > > SOme posts are published straight away, especially the news-style posts > that link to other content. The longer form articles like how-tos and > release announcements usually are ready and waiting for publishing a few > days in advance. There is really no offciial "QA" of posts really yet > however. > > 3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous Fedora Magazine? > Would like to do some testing on Zanata. > > > If you log in to the magazine with your FAS account using this procedure > -- http://fedoramagazine.org/logging-into-fedora-magazine-with-fas/ and > ping this thread once you have done that, an editor can grant your FAS > account author status, and you should be able to pull the source for each > post. > > The other piece of the puzzle is the localization of the actual theme, > and the source for the theme is available here -- > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme -- i'll need to do some > investigation on both fronts to see how all this works with wordpress. > > cheers, > ryanlerch > > > > > > Regards, > -- > Alex Eng > > > > > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > List info or to change your subscription: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing >

On 11/02/2015 06:07 PM, Alex Eng wrote: > Hi, > > I've managed to import a post from Fedora magazine in html file into > Zanata and pull out translation file. > > The question now would be how will Fedora magazine import the html? > (in translations) > > Is there something in wordpress that allows translations for an > article to be imported? > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Alex Eng <loones1595(a)gmail.com > <mailto:loones1595@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I've logged into http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/ with my FAS > account. > Username: aeng > > Can I please have access to pull source for each post? > > Regards, > > Alex Eng > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > > On 10/16/2015 08:17 AM, Alex Eng wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on >> translations and Zanata (platform we used for translation). >> >> There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility >> to get Fedora Magazine localised to reach out more to users. > > > Hi alex! > > We have discussed this in the past, but not much really came > of it TBH, so thanks for bringing this up again! It is > defninely something that I would love to see happen > >> >> For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, >> >> 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? >> (Raw format like txt, po, xml?) > Everything is stored in Wordpress -- the "source" of the > posts could be classed as a HTML snippet however, which may > be able to be placed into Zanata. There are also a bunch of > different plugins for wordpress that could be investigated to > see if we could use those to distribute localized content > (this is where previous discussions focused on IIRC) >> 2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before >> it is publish? (if localised, we might need to schedule QA >> for translations) > SOme posts are published straight away, especially the > news-style posts that link to other content. The longer form > articles like how-tos and release announcements usually are > ready and waiting for publishing a few days in advance. There > is really no offciial "QA" of posts really yet however. > >> 3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous >> Fedora Magazine? Would like to do some testing on Zanata. > > If you log in to the magazine with your FAS account using > this procedure -- > http://fedoramagazine.org/logging-into-fedora-magazine-with-fas/ > and ping this thread once you have done that, an editor can > grant your FAS account author status, and you should be able > to pull the source for each post. > > The other piece of the puzzle is the localization of the > actual theme, and the source for the theme is available here > -- https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme -- i'll need to do > some investigation on both fronts to see how all this works > with wordpress. > > cheers, > ryanlerch >> >> > > >> Regards, >> -- >> Alex Eng >> >> >> > > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > <mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org> > List info or to change your subscription: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > > > > > -- > Alex Eng > > > Yeah, I have been doing some research into this, and there seems to be two plugins that are most popular for presenting localized content. They both work in similar ways -- when you edit a post, there is a tab for each language that you put the localized content in: 1. Q Translate X -- this one seems to be the most popular, and more polished than the second option. There have been several other ones like this (qtranslate, mtranslate) that seem to be abandonded now, and this one is the active fork of those projects 2. WPGlobus [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpglobus/] -- seems a little less polished and popular than Q translate X, but it does have a plugin that allows us to present translated versions of the featured images, which qtranslatex does not do. We routinely have text in the feature images, so this might be a good one to consider too. I havent looked at how to automate this however -- wordpress does have an XMLRPC interface, but not sure if you can interact with these plugins via that interface. The other option is to manually put in the translated content into wordpress via the edit pages. cheers, ryanlerch

On 3 November 2015 at 06:08, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > On 11/02/2015 06:07 PM, Alex Eng wrote: > > Hi, > > I've managed to import a post from Fedora magazine in html file into > Zanata and pull out translation file. > > The question now would be how will Fedora magazine import the html? (in > translations) > > Is there something in wordpress that allows translations for an article to > be imported? > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Alex Eng <loones1595(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >> I've logged into http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/ with my FAS account. >> Username: aeng >> >> Can I please have access to pull source for each post? >> >> Regards, >> >> Alex Eng >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> On 10/16/2015 08:17 AM, Alex Eng wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on translations and Zanata >>> (platform we used for translation). >>> >>> There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility to get >>> Fedora Magazine localised to reach out more to users. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi alex! >>> >>> We have discussed this in the past, but not much really came of it TBH, >>> so thanks for bringing this up again! It is defninely something that I would >>> love to see happen >>> >>> >>> For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, >>> >>> 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? (Raw format >>> like txt, po, xml?) >>> >>> Everything is stored in Wordpress -- the "source" of the posts could be >>> classed as a HTML snippet however, which may be able to be placed into >>> Zanata. There are also a bunch of different plugins for wordpress that could >>> be investigated to see if we could use those to distribute localized content >>> (this is where previous discussions focused on IIRC) >>> >>> 2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before it is >>> publish? (if localised, we might need to schedule QA for translations) >>> >>> SOme posts are published straight away, especially the news-style posts >>> that link to other content. The longer form articles like how-tos and >>> release announcements usually are ready and waiting for publishing a few >>> days in advance. There is really no offciial "QA" of posts really yet >>> however. >>> >>> 3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous Fedora >>> Magazine? Would like to do some testing on Zanata. >>> >>> >>> If you log in to the magazine with your FAS account using this procedure >>> -- http://fedoramagazine.org/logging-into-fedora-magazine-with-fas/ and ping >>> this thread once you have done that, an editor can grant your FAS account >>> author status, and you should be able to pull the source for each post. >>> >>> The other piece of the puzzle is the localization of the actual theme, >>> and the source for the theme is available here -- >>> https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme -- i'll need to do some investigation >>> on both fronts to see how all this works with wordpress. >>> >>> cheers, >>> ryanlerch >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Alex Eng >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> marketing mailing list >>> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>> List info or to change your subscription: >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing >> >> >> > > > > -- > Alex Eng > > > > Yeah, I have been doing some research into this, and there seems to be two > plugins that are most popular for presenting localized content. They both > work in similar ways -- when you edit a post, there is a tab for each > language that you put the localized content in: > > 1. Q Translate X -- this one seems to be the most popular, and more > polished than the second option. There have been several other ones like > this (qtranslate, mtranslate) that seem to be abandonded now, and this one > is the active fork of those projects Nice. Alex in that case may be we can simply start one new project in Zanata specifically for Magazine and put content of one article into it. And ask L10N to translate. We can use it for testing purpose. > > 2. WPGlobus [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpglobus/] -- seems a little > less polished and popular than Q translate X, but it does have a plugin that > allows us to present translated versions of the featured images, which > qtranslatex does not do. We routinely have text in the feature images, so > this might be a good one to consider too. > > I havent looked at how to automate this however -- wordpress does have an > XMLRPC interface, but not sure if you can interact with these plugins via > that interface. The other option is to manually put in the translated > content into wordpress via the edit pages. Manual will be tricky but may be for Proof of Concept, let go with it :) Regards, Pravin Satpute -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

On 5 November 2015 at 18:12, Alex Eng <loones1595(a)gmail.com <mailto:loones1595@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, Kato-san have managed to translate Fedora 23 release post in our Zanata testing machine of which I managed to extract from wordpress. I've uploaded source file and translated file in Japanese, plus screenshot of the Zanata for the editor. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B-mREHKL688gZHNmSFdoTkg4Tjg Thanks Alex. :) This is one of the outcome of G11N FAD. We did this translation on the same day i.e. 3rd Nov before final announcement. Unfortunately bit busy with other stuff. Still F23 release news replicating to other places. Will be great if we can have F23 release post out in Japanese as well soon. :) Regards, Pravin Satpute On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:27 AM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <mailto:pravin.d.s@gmail.com> <pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <mailto:pravin.d.s@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > On 3 November 2015 at 06:08, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com <mailto:rlerch@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> On 11/02/2015 06:07 PM, Alex Eng wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I've managed to import a post from Fedora magazine in html file into >> Zanata and pull out translation file. >> >> The question now would be how will Fedora magazine import the html? (in >> translations) >> >> Is there something in wordpress that allows translations for an article to >> be imported? >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Alex Eng <loones1595(a)gmail.com <mailto:loones1595@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I've logged into http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/ with my FAS account. >>> Username: aeng >>> >>> Can I please have access to pull source for each post? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alex Eng >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com <mailto:rlerch@redhat.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/16/2015 08:17 AM, Alex Eng wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm a member of G11n in Fedora working mainly on translations and Zanata >>>> (platform we used for translation). >>>> >>>> There is a suggestion in the group of seeing the possibility to get >>>> Fedora Magazine localised to reach out more to users. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi alex! >>>> >>>> We have discussed this in the past, but not much really came of it TBH, >>>> so thanks for bringing this up again! It is defninely something that I would >>>> love to see happen >>>> >>>> >>>> For initial investigation, few questions I would like to ask, >>>> >>>> 1) What type file format does Fedora Magazine created in? (Raw format >>>> like txt, po, xml?) >>>> >>>> Everything is stored in Wordpress -- the "source" of the posts could be >>>> classed as a HTML snippet however, which may be able to be placed into >>>> Zanata. There are also a bunch of different plugins for wordpress that could >>>> be investigated to see if we could use those to distribute localized content >>>> (this is where previous discussions focused on IIRC) >>>> >>>> 2) What is the usual timeframe for QA on the content before it is >>>> publish? (if localised, we might need to schedule QA for translations) >>>> >>>> SOme posts are published straight away, especially the news-style posts >>>> that link to other content. The longer form articles like how-tos and >>>> release announcements usually are ready and waiting for publishing a few >>>> days in advance. There is really no offciial "QA" of posts really yet >>>> however. >>>> >>>> 3) Is it possible to get a copy of the file for previous Fedora >>>> Magazine? Would like to do some testing on Zanata. >>>> >>>> >>>> If you log in to the magazine with your FAS account using this procedure >>>> -- http://fedoramagazine.org/logging-into-fedora-magazine-with-fas/ and ping >>>> this thread once you have done that, an editor can grant your FAS account >>>> author status, and you should be able to pull the source for each post. >>>> >>>> The other piece of the puzzle is the localization of the actual theme, >>>> and the source for the theme is available here -- >>>> https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme -- i'll need to do some investigation >>>> on both fronts to see how all this works with wordpress. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> ryanlerch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> -- >>>> Alex Eng >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> marketing mailing list >>>> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>> List info or to change your subscription: >>>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alex Eng >> >> >> >> Yeah, I have been doing some research into this, and there seems to be two >> plugins that are most popular for presenting localized content. They both >> work in similar ways -- when you edit a post, there is a tab for each >> language that you put the localized content in: >> >> 1. Q Translate X -- this one seems to be the most popular, and more >> polished than the second option. There have been several other ones like >> this (qtranslate, mtranslate) that seem to be abandonded now, and this one >> is the active fork of those projects > > > Nice. > Alex in that case may be we can simply start one new project in Zanata > specifically for Magazine and put content of one article into it. And ask > L10N to translate. We can use it for testing purpose. > > >> >> 2. WPGlobus [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpglobus/] -- seems a little >> less polished and popular than Q translate X, but it does have a plugin that >> allows us to present translated versions of the featured images, which >> qtranslatex does not do. We routinely have text in the feature images, so >> this might be a good one to consider too. >> >> I havent looked at how to automate this however -- wordpress does have an >> XMLRPC interface, but not sure if you can interact with these plugins via >> that interface. The other option is to manually put in the translated >> content into wordpress via the edit pages. > > > Manual will be tricky but may be for Proof of Concept, let go with it :) > > Regards, > Pravin Satpute > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org> > List info or to change your subscription: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- Alex Eng -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org> List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing