On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Hi, > frankly I'm not sure which mailing list I should write this to, but I > guess the marking one is the best fit. > > I was really surprised (in the negative way) by the Fedora stats [1]. > Repository connections in the first week dropped by 52 percent compared > to F17 and F17 was already low compared to releases before. F18 has > pretty bad reception, but such a huge drop is hard to believe. > The number of direct downloads is down by 7 percent. > > Are these numbers still comparable or the way they're calculated has > changed? If not, it's a pretty bad trend. So a few things - This script still runs in Paul's fedorapeople space pending the arrival of the glorious "mustard" application (note: name not actually determined, but I'm pretty sold on that name) which will replace /Statistics. It occasionally misbehaves, and Paul sent a note saying that there was a bit of a hiccup, but we should be back to normal number reporting next week, but this is the number he had for last week (I'm unclear about if the current number in there is correct, totally off, or what.) The statistics mail normally gets mailed out on Monday nights late, so perhaps tomorrow's data will look more normal (or more alarming). WRT direct downloads: I've noticed that even-numbered releases tend to be on the downward trend against the previous release in the first few weeks, whereas odd-numbered releases usually are more than 100% of previous release. Paul: can you shed any additional light?

Hi, frankly I'm not sure which mailing list I should write this to, but I guess the marking one is the best fit. I was really surprised (in the negative way) by the Fedora stats [1]. Repository connections in the first week dropped by 52 percent compared to F17 and F17 was already low compared to releases before. F18 has pretty bad reception, but such a huge drop is hard to believe. The number of direct downloads is down by 7 percent. Are these numbers still comparable or the way they're calculated has changed? If not, it's a pretty bad trend.

The difference in drops between direct downloads and repository connections is also interesting. It seems like a lot of users downloaded F18, but never installed it, and connected to repositories which pretty much correlates with my observation at linux portals, forums, mailing lists. I've seen so many comments of users who said they didn't have balls to install F18 on their hard drives with other systems and stayed with F17 or switched to another distro.

Also Anaconda in Fedora 18 seems to have some bad press as well and this one in particular seems to be referenced quite a bit http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-18-kde.html

On 01/29/2013 10:30 AM, inode0 wrote: > While I am just using my intuition about human behavior now I suspect > after an unusual period of two months with weekly reminders in the press > that things were so wrong with F18 that it couldn't be released there are > probably a significant number of users who are just being more cautious > than normal at this point waiting to see how much luck other early adopters > have with the release before diving in. At least that is my optimistic the > sky isn't falling take on it at this point. > These stories might have to do something with it http://www.phoronix.com/scan.**php?page=news_item&px=MTI4MjI<http:... http://linux.slashdot.org/**story/13/01/23/230255/alan-** cox-fedora-18-the-worst-red-**hat-distro-switches-to-ubuntu<http://lin... Alan Cox's reaction at https://plus.google.com/**111104121194250082892/posts/**dEW3SeRT2ih<ht... Also Anaconda in Fedora 18 seems to have some bad press as well and this one in particular seems to be referenced quite a bit http://www.dedoimedo.com/**computers/fedora-18-kde.html<http://www.ded... Rahul -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.**org <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/marketing<https://a...